Tren recomp cycle

[sdog1313]

Hello , I am planning my next cycle which I will start in 4 weeks. I am 30 6'0 198lbs @ about 15%. I will be cutting for the next 4 weeks to lean up as much as I can before starting.

The cycle will be:
1-10 test prop 50mg eod / 175mg a week.
1-8 tren ace 200mg eod / 700mg a week.
6.25 aromasin ed

Pct
Clomid 75/75/50/50
Nolva. 40/40/20/20

My goals are to try and stay around 190lbs but lean up at the same time.

My questions for this cycle are the following:
1. To achieve my goals of a recomp at 190lbs I was thinking of eating at maintenance 3000cals a day and doing cardio 4 times a week. Does this sound like a good plan? I will be playing around with carbs on a carb cycle diet and will try to keep them lowish for most days and boost them up on leg and back day!

2. Is caber really needed ? I am aware that most people tell you to take 0.5 e3d but is it really needed if estrogen is kept within a good range?

3. Is 6.25 a good starting dose of aromasin even tho I am keeping my test low?

4. Would any1 extend pct to 5 or 6 weeks?

Any help will be greatly appreciated !!

[sdog1313]

Bump !

[The Deadlifting Dog]

You could probably accomplish your goal easily with one quarter of the tren you plan on taking.
700mg per week of tren is a train wreck IMHO.

[sdog1313]

So you think 150mg eod would be better ? I was think 200mg eod as keeping test low so want as much from the tren as I can get ! Any advice for my other questions ?

[The Deadlifting Dog]

So you think 150mg eod would be better ? I was think 200mg eod as keeping test low so want as much from the tren as I can get ! Any advice for my other questions ?

No.
I think you can recomp on 50mg of tren EOD.

Have you cycled before?

[sdog1313]

Yes 14 week cycle last year test prop mast prop, anavar first 8 weeks tren ace last 6 weeks

[Vash the Stampede]

Holy overdose Batman! I can't even imagine anyone needing 700mg of Tren per week, especially for a recomp. You could probably achieve your goals on test alone with a solid diet and training program.

If you insist on using Tren, start with 200mg to 300mg per week, and see what your results are. Don't forget your AI, and use HCG on cycle. Add in Caber if you have prolactin issues.

Oh yeah one more thing, your aromasin dosage is too low. Start at 12,5mg per day and adjust according to mid cycle blood work.

[jstone]

Holy overdose Batman! I can't even imagine anyone needing 700mg of Tren per week, especially for a recomp. You could probably achieve your goals on test alone with a solid diet and training program.

If you insist on using Tren, start with 200mg to 300mg per week, and see what your results are. Don't forget your AI, and use HCG on cycle. Add in Caber if you have prolactin issues.

Oh yeah one more thing, your aromasin dosage is too low. Start at 12,5mg per day and adjust according to mid cycle blood work.

You think that 12.5 isnt overkill for 175mg of test per week. At first I thought 6.25 was low then I looked at the test dose again. I wouldn't even run an AI at 175, but I know I dont need AI at that dose from past bloodwork. I know its hard to crash estro with aromasin, but im wondering what your take is on it. You kind of came out of nowhere, but obviously have lots of knowledge.

To me a recomp is one of the hardest things to do. Cutting or bulking is straight forward, but a recomp is try to do a little of both at the same time. This is a time where I think a little more compounds can help. If the tren is quality I would probably still stick with 500mg of tren, especially since this is only like a second cycle.

when I said came out of nowhere its no disrespect. Most members come here knowing very little. So for someone to come on with a great base of knowledge surprised me.

[Vash the Stampede]

You think that 12.5 isnt overkill for 175mg of test per week. At first I thought 6.25 was low then I looked at the test dose again. I wouldn't even run an AI at 175, but I know I dont need AI at that dose from past bloodwork. I know its hard to crash estro with aromasin, but im wondering what your take is on it. You kind of came out of nowhere, but obviously have lots of knowledge.

To me a recomp is one of the hardest things to do. Cutting or bulking is straight forward, but a recomp is try to do a little of both at the same time. This is a time where I think a little more compounds can help. If the tren is quality I would probably still stick with 500mg of tren, especially since this is only like a second cycle.

when I said came out of nowhere its no disrespect. Most members come here knowing very little. So for someone to come on with a great base of knowledge surprised me.

Thank you for your flattery. I've been a certified Personal Trainer for over 10 years, and have a passion for the fitness Industry. Im also an advocate for the SAFE use of AAS, not the ABUSE.

I will stick with my original recommendations and add that if you run HCG on cycle, you will definitely need 12,5mg aromasin (minimum) to combat increased estrogenic activity. The AI is not only responsible for controlling conversion of test into estrogen, but also minimizing aromatase activity from HCG use.

[sdog1313]

I will not be running HCG.

My proposed cycle now looks like this :

1-10 test prop 175mg a week
1-8 Tren ace 525 a week
Aromasin 6.25 ED

Would you extend pct to 5 or 6 weeks ?

Caber @ 0.25 every3days ? I've read a lot of posts saying that it is not needed. Can anyone clear this up ?

Is it a must to run the test 2 weeks longer than the tren before I start pct ?

[Vash the Stampede]

You gonna have a tough time recovering without using HCG on cycle.

Thats still a hefty dose of Tren you plan on running. Good thing its Tren Ace so you can back out if sides become intolerable.

Since you are not running HCG, I would definitely extend PCT to 6 weeks. Use Caber only if prolactin becomes an issue. Personally I run Caber regardless, but that's just my personal preference.

Running test for 2 weeks longer is not necessary, again its just personal preference. I run both compounds for the same time.

[sdog1313]

Ok so :
1-8 175mg test
1-8 525mg tren
6.25 aromasin Ed
0.25 caber e3.5d

Pct
Clomid 75/75/50/50/50/50
Nolva. 40/40/20/20/20/20

Thanks for the help

Think I'm going to continue cutting until the end of the cycle and then maintain throughout the holidays until it's time to run again,

[jstone]

Thank you for your flattery. I've been a certified Personal Trainer for over 10 years, and have a passion for the fitness Industry. Im also an advocate for the SAFE use of AAS, not the ABUSE.

I will stick with my original recommendations and add that if you run HCG on cycle, you will definitely need 12,5mg aromasin (minimum) to combat increased estrogenic activity. The AI is not only responsible for controlling conversion of test into estrogen, but also minimizing aromatase activity from HCG use.

I didn see it in his cycle, but its definitely needed with the hcg. My e2 become almost impossible to control while using hcg during a blast. I dont use it very often, im on trt and I will use maybe once a year for a few months while cruising.

Its pretty rare for someone to come here with ther shit straight from the start.

[kelkel]

Holy overdose Batman! I can't even imagine anyone needing 700mg of Tren per week

Totally agree. I don't know anyone on this forum who needs that much tren. No one.

since this is only like a second cycle.

Another reason.....

Its pretty rare for someone to come here with ther shit straight from the start.

It is, isn't it.

[Paul Mr Universe]

The stack your using is basic old school test prop tren acetate if source reliable should give you what you desire with the small amount of anti estrogen you require , good luck

[Paul Mr Universe]

The stack your using is basic old school test prop tren acetate if source reliable should give you what you desire with the small amount of anti estrogen you require , good luck