New guy looking for help

[Keagan]

Hello everyone

Im So I am looking at doing my first cycle when I turn 21 (only 19 now soon to be 20) but though I would educate my self as early as possible.

Ok so a little about me. I am 179 cm (5,87 foot) tall I weigh 76 kgs (168 pounds) I have no idea what my body fat is. I rock climb (bouldering) 4-5 times a week for about 30 min, then do 15 min skipping just for some cardio and then I gym for half an hour. I dont know if you needed to know that haha but from what I have read is that before you take steroids its best to have some experience behind you. I do not what to gain alot of weight/muscle I am just looking at cutting. i am not on a strict diet, my "diet" consists of one meal a day at night (relatively healthy) and I fast for the rest of the day. I DONT want to get big as this would make it alot harder to rock climb. So for my first cycle I was looking at doing a TEST E cycle as that is what everyone recommends and is apparently one of the "safest" cycles but I am not 100% sure of this and I have also looked at Anavar as it does not have as many side affects as other steroids that are available. Would really appreciate any input from anyone. Oh and one last thing what do you think of doing only a few cycles to help reach the genetic potential and then stop.

AND thanks again to anyone who Helps me

EDIT: just things I forgot to mention/ask that may be of importance - How often should I get blood tests/sperm count, what would the doctor be looking for in a blood test, what other precautions could I take to minimize the chances of getting the side affects.
and my diet I have been looking at doing a diet, but of course I am on a budget at the moment so after looking up what my recommended my intake is came up with this any input on that would be greatly appreciated as well.

[marcus300]

http://forums.steroid.com/educationa...#.UWZ9Mp5waM8=
There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies


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AGE
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.



TRAINING
You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.

Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.

Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development


DIET
A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.

No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.

This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment.

[Keagan]

Hey Marcus thanks so much for the input and information, I really appreciate it, and it has definitely helped me and given me a lot to do some research on. Would it be OK if I contact you directly if I am unable to find any detailed information on some things you have covered?

[krugerr]

Hey Marcus thanks so much for the input and information, I really appreciate it, and it has definitely helped me and given me a lot to do some research on. Would it be OK if I contact you directly if I am unable to find any detailed information on some things you have covered?

Hi Keagan,

Marcus has put a good bulk of the information you'll need above, with links to two very important threads. Whilst im sure he wouldnt mind you PMing him for details, if you post here on the open forum, you may get faster responses, and/or different opinions.

[-Ender-]

Hey Marcus thanks so much for the input and information, I really appreciate it, and it has definitely helped me and given me a lot to do some research on. Would it be OK if I contact you directly if I am unable to find any detailed information on some things you have covered?

Keagan-
The information that Marcus has provided for you is the single most important thing for you to understand with regard to your intended path. Please take the time to process this completely and understand the risks.

Thanks

[Stevebeginner]

I love this site, so much knowledge and good advice everywhere

[songdog]

Keagan Marcus gives great advice and is very knowledgeable.Glad to see you are doing the smart thing and do research on wat you plan on doing.But just a heads up.Only eating once a day is very bad hit our diet section and they will help you out.

[Keagan]

Hi Keagan,

Marcus has put a good bulk of the information you'll need above, with links to two very important threads. Whilst im sure he wouldnt mind you PMing him for details, if you post here on the open forum, you may get faster responses, and/or different opinions.

Thanks krugerr I would prefer to post on the forum, because as you said different opinions, but I don't want to spam it and annoy anyone. I have started to go through the links he provided just, asking in case I didn't understand something. thanks

[Keagan]

Keagan-
The information that Marcus has provided for you is the single most important thing for you to understand with regard to your intended path. Please take the time to process this completely and understand the risks.

Thanks

Hello Ender

I have started to go through the links he provided,it is quite a bit to take in so will probably go over it a few times, but from what i have read is very helpful.

Thanks

[Keagan]

Keagan Marcus gives great advice and is very knowledgeable.Glad to see you are doing the smart thing and do research on wat you plan on doing.But just a heads up.Only eating once a day is very bad hit our diet section and they will help you out.

Hello songdog

I am definitely looking at changing my diet. Didn't know there was a diet section, thanks for the heads up will have a look at it once I am done scanning through this information I have been given.

and again thanks a lot for the input