Test Suspension Question

[Strongblood]

Just got some Test Suspension water based in amps. First time using water based, used oil based before. Difference is the water based is white milky with the powder settled in it. I shook it good and even warmed it up under water a little. But when I started to inject in my leg the darn plunger wouldn't move. I aspirated again and nothing. So I removed the needle, shook it good, reinserted same thing. Finally pulled it out pulled the plunger back and shook it again got the air bubbles out then jabbed it in and pushed the plunger down and it emptied! Is it because I had the syringe 90 degrees? Used a 25g 1" needle. Do I need to warm it and dissolve all the powder first? Using this as a pre-workout and feeling it good 1 hour pre injection. Thanks for any help with this guys!

[Mr.BB]

Yes, it can clog the needle rather easily, depends a bit on the preparation how much does it clog. Might need larger bore needle.

The effect is immediate, dont wait 1 hour to go train. Pin the muscles you are training, better to use on small muscles. Also better not to use continuously, or the effect will wear off, and your e2/dht will skyrocket lol

No need to warm it, crystals will not dissolve in heat, its a suspension. Just shake it good.

EDIT: Enjoy the pain!

[Strongblood]

Yes, it can clog the needle rather easily, depends a bit on the preparation how much does it clog. Might need larger bore needle. The effect is immediate, dont wait 1 hour to go train. Pin the muscles you are training, better to use on small muscles. Also better not to use continuously, or the effect will wear off, and your e2/dht will skyrocket lol No need to warm it, crystals will not dissolve in heat, its a suspension. Just shake it good. EDIT: Enjoy the pain!

Yes, I will go with a 23g needle next time. I knew I probably should have pinned my delts but I was working out arms and was afraid the pain would mess up my workout. The shot today didn't hurt very bad though. Also, the Test might flow better with the syringe at the angle in which it is going straight into the deltoid muscle and not straight up and down like I was doing this morning.
It does come on fast! The last suspension I used was oil based and it was much slower getting into my system than this water based. I have about a 20 minute drive to the gym. I pinned at home and was feeling the affects before I got to the gym!
I'm only going to pin 2 Ampules a week. 100mgs 2x week. I sure don't want to screw up my estrogen. I'm going to check it next week to make sure it and everything else is ok. Thanks for the advice BB!

[almostgone]

Yes, I will go with a 23g needle next time. I knew I probably should have pinned my delts but I was working out arms and was afraid the pain would mess up my workout. The shot today didn't hurt very bad though. Also, the Test might flow better with the syringe at the angle in which it is going straight into the deltoid muscle and not straight up and down like I was doing this morning.
It does come on fast! The last suspension I used was oil based and it was much slower getting into my system than this water based. I have about a 20 minute drive to the gym. I pinned at home and was feeling the affects before I got to the gym!
I'm only going to pin 2 Ampules a week. 100mgs 2x week. I sure don't want to screw up my estrogen. I'm going to check it next week to make sure it and everything else is ok. Thanks for the advice BB!

Shaken the fvck out of the amps after running them.under hot water. It seems to help the test base disperse more uniformly. Draw it quick and don't waste any time when injecting as it will clump easily inside.the needle. I don't use suspension often or for long periods of time and it can affect your estrogen easily, in my experience.
Try drawing with a 20g and use no smaller than a 23g to shoot. I have used some oddball 21g to inject with if the powder kept clumping.
Enjoy yourself. Suspension can really make for some interesting lifts. ;

Edit: If you can get away with the 23g, definitely go that route.

[songdog]

Never used the water based type but I hear it burns like hell.

[ScotchGuard02]

You're tough. Running Test suspension is hard. You have you jab yourself with big needles and the Test suspension half life is hours so you have to to keep jabbing yourself a few times a day. That powder is painful once injected.

[01dragonslayer]

Just got some Test Suspension water based in amps. First time using water based, used oil based before. Difference is the water based is white milky with the powder settled in it. I shook it good and even warmed it up under water a little. But when I started to inject in my leg the darn plunger wouldn't move. I aspirated again and nothing. So I removed the needle, shook it good, reinserted same thing. Finally pulled it out pulled the plunger back and shook it again got the air bubbles out then jabbed it in and pushed the plunger down and it emptied! Is it because I had the syringe 90 degrees? Used a 25g 1" needle. Do I need to warm it and dissolve all the powder first? Using this as a pre-workout and feeling it good 1 hour pre injection. Thanks for any help with this guys!

Suspensions has been known to clog especially in smaller gauge needles. Try a 23g.

[songdog]

Quit bein a wimp 8g

[Ashop]

I would try a 22-23g pin next time. Some suspension wont pass thru finer gauge pins.

[Strongblood]

Thanks guys for the replies! Just thought I would mention. My leg hurts like holy hell! Good gosh, I hope I can walk in the morning! I should have put this stuff in my delts or glutes! They are well tested pin sites for me. My quads are virgin and I'm paying the price now. I pinned this morning at 4am. And just woke up at 1:00am, 20 hours later to pee and dam!

[Mr.BB]

Thanks guys for the replies! Just thought I would mention. My leg hurts like holy hell! Good gosh, I hope I can walk in the morning! I should have put this stuff in my delts or glutes! They are well tested pin sites for me. My quads are virgin and I'm paying the price now. I pinned this morning at 4am. And just woke up at 1:00am, 20 hours later to pee and dam!

I told you, even if you pinned non-virgin muscles the pain would still be there. There is also slight inflammation involved.

This inflammation can give some SEO's like feeling and effects, hence why IMO should be used on muscles to be trained. Nothing scientific, just my opinion, that the local growth people talk about comes from this effect. I only use it on biceps, triceps and side delts.

[Strongblood]

I told you, even if you pinned non-virgin muscles the pain would still be there. There is also slight inflammation involved. This inflammation can give some SEO's like feeling and effects, hence why IMO should be used on muscles to be trained. Nothing scientific, just my opinion, that the local growth people talk about comes from this effect. I only use it on biceps, triceps and side delts.

Do you pin directly into the top of the muscle head on your biceps? And how often can I use it for pre-workout a week? I'm taking 200mgs of Test Enanthate 2 x per week also.
Last question, by working out the muscle directly after pinning, does that help with the post inj. pain? Thanks B.B.

[Mr.BB]

Do you pin directly into the top of the muscle head on your biceps? And how often can I use it for pre-workout a week? I'm taking 200mgs of Test Enanthate 2 x per week also.
Last question, by working out the muscle directly after pinning, does that help with the post inj. pain? Thanks B.B.

If its biceps peak you are after pin the outer head. You want to pin directly into one head of the biceps, outer or inner head (also called long head). Pinning the middle is not good.

Put it deep, minimum 1inch into, flex to find peak, and pin on whatever side you decide (after unflex of course). Quite easy as there are not much veins and nerves. Triceps is worse.

To me the pain help concentrate the exercise on that head. After pain feels like doms, like if you didnt train biceps for a long time.

[almostgone]

That's the magic of suspension. A warm compress and light stretching will help the quad. BTW, I do NOT recommend pinning traps or lats with suspension. Calves are semi-suspect as well.

[AR's King Silabolin]

Just got some Test Suspension water based in amps. First time using water based, used oil based before. Difference is the water based is white milky with the powder settled in it. I shook it good and even warmed it up under water a little. But when I started to inject in my leg the darn plunger wouldn't move. I aspirated again and nothing. So I removed the needle, shook it good, reinserted same thing. Finally pulled it out pulled the plunger back and shook it again got the air bubbles out then jabbed it in and pushed the plunger down and it emptied! Is it because I had the syringe 90 degrees? Used a 25g 1" needle. Do I need to warm it and dissolve all the powder first? Using this as a pre-workout and feeling it good 1 hour pre injection. Thanks for any help with this guys!

I had the same problem. Once out of 500. I mixed two oilbased and hcg/pep and i was unable to move the plunger when the needle was is.
A member suggested i just hit scar tissue. I thougth it had to do something with water pushing at the oil inside.
Now i think it just was my fingerangles. I was a bit nervous about shooting a 4 component mix and was not able to get enough force into my pushing fingers.