Withings BP health app

[AR's King Silabolin]

So wife bougth me a home BP unit and the app showed systolic like 170 and dia..whatever... 80.

Can this be rigth?. Im at cycle end and precycle BP was 125/80.
Tried numerous times and the readings were 185-160 over 75-90.

But can aas cause that isolated systolic hypertension?
Before i think i remember both used tobe elevated.
Ive red 170/80 is real real bad news.

I have big arms and that has been a problem for accurate readings before.

[numbere]

So wife bougth me a home BP unit and the app showed systolic like 170 and dia..whatever... 80.

Can this be rigth?. Im at cycle end and precycle BP was 125/80.
Tried numerous times and the readings were 185-160 over 75-90.

But can aas cause that isolated systolic hypertension?
Before i think i remember both used tobe elevated.
Ive red 170/80 is real real bad news.

I have big arms and that has been a problem for accurate readings before.

Systolic hypertension is a secondary effect of left ventricular hypertrophy.

You shouldn't put too much faith in electronic home BP machines.

I've wanted to buy one for awhile but the technology for home units isn't precise enough.

If you want true reading then sick with the old school cuff and stethoscope unless you want to spend $500+ on a hospital grade machine.

It's nice your wife got you something to do with your lifestyle for Christmas.

My girl got me a painting:/

[AR's King Silabolin]

Systolic hypertension is a secondary effect of left ventricular hypertrophy.

You shouldn't put too much faith in electronic home BP machines.

I've wanted to buy one for awhile but the technology for home units isn't precise enough.

If you want true reading then sick with the old school cuff and stethoscope unless you want to spend $500+ on a hospital grade machine.

It's nice your wife got you something to do with your lifestyle for Christmas.

My girl got me a painting:/

Ok. Think ur rigth again. I bougth one of those blue tooth scales which are supposed to measur water n fat and all kinds of stuff. Turned out to be scam.
Guess its the same thing with home bp units. I hope.
Wife hates BB but she loves me so she always buys me BBstuff.
Merry christmas to u numbere. U managed to eas some of my worries

Painting...wtf...hope it was a picasso so u can sell it and buy some pharm gh

[Mr.BB]

Above 160 it gets serious, if its not your e2 and /or h&h causing it, you need bp meds.

[AR's King Silabolin]

Above 160 it gets serious, if its not your e2 and /or h&h causing it, you need bp meds.

Yes but im getting off everything now execpt for mk677 and the pct and i will wait to see if it drops when the ardrugs dissapear out of my system

[Strongblood]

Hey Sil and Merry Christmas to you and your family! The top number refers to the amount of pressure in your arteries during contraction of your heart muscle. This is called systolic pressure. The bottom number refers to your blood pressure when your heart muscle is between beats. This is called diastolic pressure. Both numbers are important in determining the state of your heart. Your systolic number is elevated because of the extra strain that is being put on your heart from the pumps you are getting while doing steroids and/or some Research Chemicals. The extra red blood cells and higher hemocrit we experience while on gear add to it as well. It's simple if you think about it. The muscles are pumped up and tight from being filled with blood, making it harder for the heart to push the blood through the body. Some people aren't affected as much because their arteries are in better overall condition than others.(ex. less plaque build up, less restriction of the arteries, age, etc.)
Your BP should return to normal after you discontinue steroids and everything returns to normal. But it's always good to keep a regular check on you BP. Good luck buddy.

[Proximal]

So wife bougth me a home BP unit and the app showed systolic like 170 and dia..whatever... 80.

Can this be rigth?. Im at cycle end and precycle BP was 125/80.
Tried numerous times and the readings were 185-160 over 75-90.

But can aas cause that isolated systolic hypertension?
Before i think i remember both used tobe elevated.
Ive red 170/80 is real real bad news.

I have big arms and that has been a problem for accurate readings before.

I'm going to disagree with numbere a bit because the electronic BP devices have gotten significantly better through the years. Hell, I've got one that I use for my wrist that I'm confident of the accuracy.

Your point about your arm size though is a valid concern though for throwing off the accuracy.

I'd be concerned though Sil. If the top/systolic reading is consistently over 120 and the lower/diastolic consistently hovers around 80 - then long term you are setting yourself up for heart disease.

[Mr.BB]

I'm going to disagree with numbere a bit because the electronic BP devices have gotten significantly better through the years. Hell, I've got one that I use for my wrist that I'm confident of the accuracy.

Your point about your arm size though is a valid concern though for throwing off the accuracy.

I'd be concerned though Sil. If the top/systolic reading is consistently over 120 and the lower/diastolic consistently hovers around 80 - then long term you are setting yourself up for heart disease.

Agreed Prox. I have experience with cuff and stethoscope and there's also a margin of error with it, as you cant hear anything in between beats.

Although I have to say that wrist devices don't convince me, specially the ones that read diastolic first.

[Proximal]

Agreed Prox. I have experience with cuff and stethoscope and there's also a margin of error with it, as you cant hear anything in between beats.

Although I have to say that wrist devices don't convince me, specially the ones that read diastolic first.

With the wrist it is a lot more convenient for sure, but agreed for 100% accuracy, I'd go upper arm. I'm just always looking how close I am to 120 and to 80, not specific numbers.

The wrist conformed what I was feeling a few months back, that I was high and unbeknownst to me my E2 was high as well and that was fixed easily.

Merry Christmas to you guys. Numbere, sorry that Santa brought you a painting.

[AR's King Silabolin]

I'm going to disagree with numbere a bit because the electronic BP devices have gotten significantly better through the years. Hell, I've got one that I use for my wrist that I'm confident of the accuracy.

Your point about your arm size though is a valid concern though for throwing off the accuracy.

I'd be concerned though Sil. If the top/systolic reading is consistently over 120 and the lower/diastolic consistently hovers around 80 - then long term you are setting yourself up for heart disease.

It was 125/80 at the docs office before the cycle. Isnt that good for a 45 year old and 115 kg who as been doing drugs and BB for 25 years and with minimal cardio exercises?
It should be ok end january. Or i think so. Family ages well and dies in the 90s. All of them. Viking genes u know:-)
Thanks for the concern btw

[Couchlock]

It was 125/80 at the docs office before the cycle. Isnt that good for a 45 year old and 115 kg who as been doing drugs and BB for 25 years and with minimal cardio exercises?
It should be ok end january. Or i think so. Family ages well and dies in the 90s. All of them. Viking genes u know:-)
Thanks for the concern btw

I was at 107/68 prior to cycle.

Mid cycle I was 128/76

End cycle (15th week of 16) I was alarmingly high, 134/80

We will see how it goes during pct.

Is be freaking out at 160 I would immediately stop cycle that high

[AR's King Silabolin]

I was at 107/68 prior to cycle.

Mid cycle I was 128/76

End cycle (15th week of 16) I was alarmingly high, 134/80

We will see how it goes during pct.

Is be freaking out at 160 I would immediately stop cycle that high

107/68..isnt that unhealthy low?

[Proximal]

It was 125/80 at the docs office before the cycle. Isnt that good for a 45 year old and 115 kg who as been doing drugs and BB for 25 years and with minimal cardio exercises?
It should be ok end january. Or i think so. Family ages well and dies in the 90s. All of them. Viking genes u know:-)
Thanks for the concern btw

I don't have the background that the vets have on what to expect on BP changes through years of AAS usage; don't know if that's just something that comes with the lifestyle. And no, 107/68 is very good, not "low", but healthy.

But, the fact that probably all of us on this forum are technically "overweight" even if it's all muscle and low body fat, is added strain on the heart and will cause the heart to enlarge (which is not a good thing). And it's likely that unless our/your diet has minimal saturated fat (red meat, egg yolks, dairy), we probably all have a good start on plaque development around our bodies.

So now we all have 2 things working against our hearts in the long run. I think my point is, if you/we can take steps to lower our blood pressure below the 120 and 80 numbers it's a good idea.

The good genetics certainly help though. Have a Merry Christmas Sil.

[Couchlock]

107/68..isnt that unhealthy low?

That's at 1.5 packs a days too.

No I felt and functioned fine.

You should have seen it 6 years ago.

Off the charts

[Boneslapper2002]

I think the stethoscope is the most accurate if you can have someone read it for you also I think if you get a bigger cuff you may get a closer measurement.

[tarmyg]

I got an Omron HEM-7201, brought it to the Doctor's office and measured over ten times in a row, and the machine is highly accurate. Silabolin, maybe you could do the same thing, just bring it with you and test and compare with a medically rated device.

[Strongblood]

I got an Omron HEM-7201, brought it to the Doctor's office and measured over ten times in a row, and the machine is highly accurate. Silabolin, maybe you could do the same thing, just bring it with you and test and compare with a medically rated device.

That's the best idea I've heard yet!

[Couchlock]

Those health kiosks at Wal-Mart that measure weight, eyes bloop predure are pretty accurate as well

Ill take measurements three times and use the middle most reading (not highest, not lowest) and call it a day.

Bring your home cuff and compare.

Walgreens also has a technician there 3x a week giving stethoscope readings, compare it there as well

[Bonaparte]

Hey Sil and Merry Christmas to you and your family! The top number refers to the amount of pressure in your arteries during contraction of your heart muscle. This is called systolic pressure. The bottom number refers to your blood pressure when your heart muscle is between beats. This is called diastolic pressure. Both numbers are important in determining the state of your heart. Your systolic number is elevated because of the extra strain that is being put on your heart from the pumps you are getting while doing steroids and/or some Research Chemicals. The extra red blood cells and higher hemocrit we experience while on gear add to it as well. It's simple if you think about it. The muscles are pumped up and tight from being filled with blood, making it harder for the heart to push the blood through the body. Some people aren't affected as much because their arteries are in better overall condition than others.(ex. less plaque build up, less restriction of the arteries, age, etc.)
Your BP should return to normal after you discontinue steroids and everything returns to normal. But it's always good to keep a regular check on you BP. Good luck buddy.

That's definitely not how that works...
Hypertension has nothing to do with muscle pumps.
AAS increase BP through erythropoiesis, increased water retension, increased cardiac output, and a few obscure mechanisms affecting vasoconstriction.