Too much bulls*** on what and how to use first cycle !!help me please !!!

[!!!MYSTIC!!!]

Hello all i live in australia so this stuff isnt well known nor legal here but im 27 6ft tall and weighed 75kg...my goal is to get big and stay big ...i do gym whenever im not sore from the last time i was there .....i have been injecting sus 250 e3d plus deca 200mg e3d for my first cycle i plan on staying on for 10 weeks......then starting pct into week 3 after first cycle.....im into week 5 atm and now weigh 91kg little bit fat stomach but not much fat elsewhere ...and please before anyone tells me to do my own research ...i have and i hear too many different things... I have come up with what i think is best but just need to know for sure....this is why i have asked you ............

Is what ive been doing ideal??...
How long for do i do pct after first cycle??....
What is the most i can take without wasting it ??........
Am i taking the right ratio between the 2??........
Do i need estrogen blockers from doc or buy a test booster with blockers in it??.........
Should i introduce trenabol into this mix??(if not this cycle can i for the next one and how many mgs??).........


Thank you please if you have nothing useful to say please dont waste your time and mine .......thank you have a nice day

[bigZthedestroyer]

If your asking these questions now you need to stop using AAS and pct. after that read on here. There's so much info available. AAS can be dangerous if you don't know what your doing. I'm not trying to hate, but why would you start something and wait until the 5th week to see if you were doing it right?

[Euroholic]

I smell troll. You said you Were 75 now In 5 weeks you have gone up to 91. 16kg in 5 weeks tells me your lying or you have no base to start off with. 6 feet tall and 75kg is very skinny. Have you got a ai? Or hcg? Have you got pct? Whats your daily macros? Im guessing your full of water. Ive recently had gyno surgery so i lernt the hard way. enjoy your tities bra.

Aas is not magic i lernt the hard way about how to cycle correctly i hope you do too.

[!!!MYSTIC!!!]

If your asking these questions now you need to stop using AAS and pct. after that read on here. There's so much info available. AAS can be dangerous if you don't know what your doing. I'm not trying to hate, but why would you start something and wait until the 5th week to see if you were doing it right?

your all good bro ......i thought i knew everything i needed to know from the supplier as he has used it for years but as ive read so many articles there are so many different things that are said ......im just like anyone else you want the best out of what you got .......im just making sure im doing the right thing thats all and i was told 5week on 5 weeks off but as ive read most cycles go for 8-12 weeks thus the confusion and now its making me question everything else ive been told too ......i guess i trusted someone else to be my reasearcher ...,stupid i know .......but its working fine for me i just wanted the best results for what i got.......cmon you know you were once a neewbie too and you wish someone like yourself would come up with all the answers your looking for ........however i do think altot of people that do hate on people like me are the ones who had to research everything for themselves and hate the fact that you can now just ask someone for the answers and they can give it through their own experiences .......i mean how else do you get answers without asking the questions? i do appreciate your reply but trust me bro ive gotten headaches from reading and reading just to find one thing outdoes the other its almost like there is no right and wrong answers out there.......but please if you can answer at least one of these questions would be greatly appreciated...plus i can pass on the message to the others that are doing things wrong....nothing worse than being told wrongful and dangerous information by a supplier only interested in making $$$$ .....thanks heaps

[bigZthedestroyer]

I'm not hating for asking questions. Questions are good. That means your putting up some effort. You said it right at the end. Your dealer doesn't know sh1t. 5 weeks on, 5 weeks off!!!! That is setting you up to Fu** up you endo system. He sees $$$ and that's what he cares about. My best advice for you is to come off and run a pct consisting of nolvadex and clomid. Spend some time getting your diet in check. Without a solid diet, any gains you make from AAS will soon be in the rearview. Once you get the diet down, I would tun a cycle of test prop, or test enth. It mainly depends on how much you want to pin. Test e=12 weeks. Test p=8-10 weeks. Pct. time on= time off.. Get an AI to help combat e2 related sides. You can run hcg if you want to and have a legit source. I'm not running hcg on my current cycle and I have no problem without it. It is reccomended but its up to you. I know you're eager to cycle and grow, but doing it this way can set you back. Take the proper time and put in the effort. The end results will be greater if you do it this way! Hope this helps man

[!!!MYSTIC!!!]

firstly sorry to hear bout your problem and i wish you all the best in your recovery.....people like you and me need to be told what to do not learn the hard way as you have learned ...dont you wish someone told you?? second of all please dont call me a liar lol you dont know anything about me... i was heavily into substance abuse if you must know there fore i was very skinny....i am big boned aswell so im not really meant to be skinny ........ ive been eating like a horse and taking mass gainer shakes 3 times a day i also go to gym whenever im not sore .....im taking alot of vitamins too and wpi shakes...and buddy i dont think water can get as hard as a rock in my muscles so im sorry but your wrong.......

[!!!MYSTIC!!!]

sure does thanks bro

[jaswave125]

Big mistake i myself am a noob in aas but even if i consider myself a newbie i can definitely tell you did not do your homework iv been lurking this site for 3yrs im 25 now i was 22 then i read read and read good thing i did not do it when i was 22 now at 25 im still not going to use it. I dont know why guys like you dont listen reach your potential first naturally so ypu wont waste aas. READ READ Read!!! Stop what your doing

[boz]

firstly sorry to hear bout your problem and i wish you all the best in your recovery.....people like you and me need to be told what to do not learn the hard way as you have learned ...dont you wish someone told you?? second of all please dont call me a liar lol you dont know anything about me... i was heavily into substance abuse if you must know there fore i was very skinny....i am big boned aswell so im not really meant to be skinny ........ ive been eating like a horse and taking mass gainer shakes 3 times a day i also go to gym whenever im not sore .....im taking alot of vitamins too and wpi shakes...and buddy i dont think water can get as hard as a rock in my muscles so im sorry but your wrong in nearly everything you said and i bet you haven even got the surgery ...your probably sitting at home getting fat wondering if you should get a snatch between ur legs to go along with it...... and hating on people that still have a chance not to have this happen to them....i bet their bigger than your girlfiends hahaha that is if she would even stay with you coz even without the titties you still sound like an exit hole ...enjoy the hand 4 life you TOS !!!! (let me know when your due for surgery so i can come and choke you out with my water filled muscles) hahahaha DD's all day long bro ...stop hating and wasting others time, why are you even on this site if its not to share your ultimate wisdom my


SAY HELLO TO YOUR BREAST FRIENDS FOR ME !!!!!!

Wow clearly i can see why no one has taken the time, let alone acknowledgement to give you a half decent response.

You just keep at it, your doing everything right! The sky is the limit for you buddy.

[Bio-Active]

To the op I am very concerned about your health. To run a proper cycle you need everything on hand with a solid cycle plan as well as pct. you are already 5 weeks in and running deca on your first cycle. Deca will shut you down hard. Do you have hcg and an AI on hand? What is your pct plan?

[redz]

16kg is all bloat, sorry to tell you but at least 90% of that is not muscle. Are you running an ai? hcg?

[binsser]

Hello all i live in australia so this stuff isnt well known nor legal here but im 27 6ft tall and weighed 75kg...my goal is to get big and stay big ...i do gym whenever im not sore from the last time i was there .....i have been injecting sus 250 e3d plus deca 200mg e3d for my first cycle i plan on staying on for 10 weeks......then starting pct into week 3 after first cycle.....im into week 5 atm and now weigh 91kg little bit fat stomach but not much fat elsewhere ...and please before anyone tells me to do my own research ...i have and i hear too many different things... I have come up with what i think is best but just need to know for sure....this is why i have asked you ............

Is what ive been doing ideal??... NO 10-12 weeks 5 is pointless
How long for do i do pct after first cycle??.... SiX weeks as you doing deca first cycle(not good)
What is the most i can take without wasting it ??........2 x 250 a week is fine
Am i taking the right ratio between the 2??........that's a person's pref really
Do i need estrogen blockers from doc or buy a test booster with blockers in it??.........you need arimidex 1mg eod
Should i introduce trenabol into this mix??(if not this cycle can i for the next one and how many mgs??).........
No ****ing way deca or trend never both 500mg per weeks is fine for now every Monday/ Thursday

Thank you please if you have nothing useful to say please dont waste your time and mine .......thank you have a nice day

See all you questions!!!

[binsser]

Changed! !

[>Good Luck<]

Canyoudigit??

[panntastic]

Canyoudigit??

Yep got to be

[Euroholic]

Sickbeard

[!!!MYSTIC!!!]

i will not use hcg but will do ai ....any suggestiuons which are best ?? i am leaning toward nolva starting 3 weeks after last injecton running cycle 10 weeks maybe 12..40mg per day 3 weeks then 20mg 3weeks in total 6 thanks bro hope to hear back

[!!!MYSTIC!!!]

thanx heaps bro appreciate the help you think deca or trend?? for next cycle??......only changed it coz some things were obvious and pple dont wanna answer 100 questions at once .......thanx again all the best mate

[Pete7502]

I asked Samson for a price list and then ordered Tren E and Test E for my first and had great success. Couldn't be happier.