Gyno on TRT, how to treat?

[jonny8888]

Hello,

http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...ds-inside.html

^ my original post, but decided to make a new one as this one has some urgency.

Been on nebido for a while now failing to to get good levels, have had some gyno development, today i notcied my left nipple was sore while drying off and when i squeezed it go a slight discharge of it. I am 2.5 weeks since my last injection so i'm thinking this is due to high e2 levels and i have a sensitivty to gyno. I think I need an AI to get this under control, doctor or endo dont seem to give two shits. Any guidance on what to take and dosage/frequency?

[Quester]

I'm not sure about nebido but perhaps you could include your entire regimen, meds, dosages, frequencies? Also, BW. If you don't have bloodwork, get it, that's the first step. Basically, give us more background.

[Youthful55guy]

I would have prolactin labs run as well as E2. Normal TRT doses of T generally aren't enough to drive E2 so high as to begin lactation. I strongly suspect prolactin is out of balance too. Are you messing with AAS too? Some of them have progestin-like activity and can compound the gyno problem.

[jonny8888]

I'm not sure about nebido but perhaps you could include your entire regimen, meds, dosages, frequencies? Also, BW. If you don't have bloodwork, get it, that's the first step. Basically, give us more background.

I would have prolactin labs run as well as E2. Normal TRT doses of T generally aren't enough to drive E2 so high as to begin lactation. I strongly suspect prolactin is out of balance too. Are you messing with AAS too? Some of them have progestin-like activity and can compound the gyno problem.

Theres a link to my original post at the top, where I have background and some bloods.

Never taken AAS just have secondary hypogonadism, endo started me on retarded frequency of 1g nebido (test undeconate) every 14 weeks with no loading shot but have slowly moved down to every 10 weeks to try and get normal levels.

Gonna try get an emergency appointment at my doctors tomorrow and request full horhome panel. I have been googling and think progesterone may be the problem, so will try get that tested too.

[clarky.]

Are you from the uk ?. If so i understand where you are coming from, i went through all tbis with my daft endo she had never even heard of a AI lol. Any way same thing with me at the start, few years back i am also on nebido.
I use adex .25 twice a wk no probs now all good. I actually had a lump under each nipple so i ran nolva 40 mg a day for 2 wks then 20mg a day for 8 wks or so i used it for.
Fixed it and as i said am fine now.
Kel helped me with it all, if you are from here you will not get E2 checked from tbe endo or the doc.

[hollowedzeus]

Are you from the uk ?. If so i understand where you are coming from, i went through all tbis with my daft endo she had never even heard of a AI lol. Any way same thing with me at the start, few years back i am also on nebido.
I use adex .25 twice a wk no probs now all good. I actually had a lump under each nipple so i ran nolva 40 mg a day for 2 wks then 20mg a day for 8 wks or so i used it for.
Fixed it and as i said am fine now.
Kel helped me with it all, if you are from here you will not get E2 checked from tbe endo or the doc.

How do you monitor your e2 then? Is it purely through what symptoms you get?

Seems like a nightmare

[clarky.]

How do you monitor your e2 then? Is it purely through what symptoms you get?

Seems like a nightmare

Aye mate, not the right thing to do at all but the nhs will not test e2 for men. The only time i had it done was when i was sent to the breast surgeon after the endo gave me gyno. Even then tbey would not do a sensitive. I tried to explain they need done for men as a normal e2 for woman is no use lol but no.
Any way they got back to me and said yes gyno and that was it i had to fix it myself even then they would not and do not check my e2 with my yearly labs it's to expensive.

No where here to get bloods checked, i know when things are not right but its not a good idea at all.

Edit, this is a good one zeus, the surgeon told me that whey causes gyno lmfao.

[hollowedzeus]

Aye mate, not the right thing to do at all but the nhs will not test e2 for men. The only time i had it done was when i was sent to the breast surgeon after the endo gave me gyno. Even then tbey would not do a sensitive. I tried to explain they need done for men as a normal e2 for woman is no use lol but no.
Any way they got back to me and said yes gyno and that was it i had to fix it myself even then they would not and do not check my e2 with my yearly labs it's to expensive.

No where here to get bloods checked, i know when things are not right but its not a good idea at all.

Edit, this is a good one zeus, the surgeon told me that whey causes gyno lmfao.

Cant wait to be a part of that derailing train haha. Ill be on nebido within the next couple of months hopefully. But i still suspect the e2 thing will be the same oven though im private. The USA has it right with bloodwork.

Nhs wouldnt even look at me. Im going to be private for the foreseeable future until i cant afford the treatment. Ive got a shit tonne of nolva on hand just incase. Research shit though.

Ahh yes ive read that about whey. Ive also read it causes low testosterone. I think thats where i went wrong.

Really though its scary some of these people gice people hormonal guidence lol


Sorry op didnt mean to highjack your thread

[TRA]

Edit, this is a good one zeus, the surgeon told me that whey causes gyno lmfao.[/QUOTE]

It does - if you use whey too much test

[hammerheart]

Edit, this is a good one zeus, the surgeon told me that whey causes gyno lmfao.

There is a very common conviction among the health pro the supp powders do contain prohormones or AAS of some sort...

[kelkel]

Well, I heat most of my food in plastic so I'm probably going to die from that soon anyway...

[jonny8888]

Sorry for late reply guys, yeah my e2 isn't monitored by bloods. Endo is ducking useless tbh going to get referred to another hospital. Seeing my GP tomorrow he's pretty decent I'll ask him for e2 test. Gonna order up some adex too but will wait for bloods to confirm what's going on

[clarky.]

Sorry for late reply guys, yeah my e2 isn't monitored by bloods. Endo is ducking useless tbh going to get referred to another hospital. Seeing my GP tomorrow he's pretty decent I'll ask him for e2 test. Gonna order up some adex too but will wait for bloods to confirm what's going on

Well good luck, let us know how you get on with the doc.

[jonny8888]

Well good luck, let us know how you get on with the doc.

Cheers

The only issue i can see with adex is my nebido wares off early, so if i take adex through out cycle i'll end up with low e2 towards the end right?

[clarky.]

Cheers

The only issue i can see with adex is my nebido wares off early, so if i take adex through out cycle i'll end up with low e2 towards the end right?

You talking about a blast while using nebido for your TRT ,

[jonny8888]

You talking about a blast while using nebido for your TRT ,

Nooo, never used AAS like that. THis is purely TRT. My nebido peaks at the start, and wears off around 6-7 weeks and my endo wont lower frequency any lower than 10 weeks. So if im taking adex when I have no T thats gonna be a problem right?

[clarky.]

Hmm wonder why the range changed Aug 17. Let us know how you get on.