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    Potentially dangerous interactions of my current ancillaries

    I have searched around the forum and there are a few points which I cannot find any answer to.
    I am well aware these are complicated questions but maybe someone here has experience or enough knowledge to answer.

    Upcoming cycle is:
    350mg Test Prop / wk
    350mg Tren Ace / wk
    T3 @ 60mcg per day
    .5mg EOD Anastrazole
    350 IU HCG EOD
    100mcg Ipamorelin 3x per day
    100mcg Mod GRF 1-29 3x per day

    I track macros and workouts daily, all other necessary supplements in check. Please assume all that stuff is 100% on point.

    So now onto the shit that concerns me (Also please note, everything that I am about to post, I AM LEGALLY PRESCRIBED and get them from a US Pharmacy):

    1. Hydrochlorothiazide
    I already take 25mg every morning and have been for a while just to offset any extra BP and water retention. Every once in a while if my sodium intake was too high the day prior I might take 50mg or 75mg to offset. I am concerned about effect on Kidney's with the addition of Tren. Ok to keep taking 25mg or more occasionally?

    2. Pramipexole/Adderal
    Again, prescribed both. Adderal on occasion when needed for work. Prami I intend on taking .125mg first few nights then bump to .25mg for Prolactin control. The days I take adderal, would it not make sense that the dopamine effects of it are SIGNIFICANTLY stronger than Prami, therefore eliminating the need for Prami?

    3. Sodium Oxybate
    I am unsure if its ok for me to be asking about this substance. Sodium Oxybate is the name given to legally prescribed GHB. Yes, you can be legally prescribed it. The sleep it induces is strong enough that it will knock you out even if you combine it with 200mcg of Clen lol......Anyone forsee any potential issues of using this alongside any of the above listed substances?

    4. Cialis
    Any potential issues between taking this as well as HCTZ?

    5. Doxycycline
    Taken for acne control. Any potential interactions with above listed items?

    6. Zolpidem (Ambien)
    Any potential interactions with above listed items?


    I am pretty careful with everything already. I am just being overly cautious and wanting to see if anyone sees a potentially dangerous combination that I am not seeing here. Please let me know.

    Thx!
    Last edited by Cupid; 06-10-2018 at 04:59 PM. Reason: fixed AI dose listed

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    No, you shouldn't do that cycle if you are taking that medication.

    Plus that is very advanced cycle and you sound like a 1st timer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    No, you shouldn't do that cycle if you are taking that medication.

    Plus that is very advanced cycle and you sound like a 1st timer.
    Ok, but can you provide a particular reason or reasons for why you say that?

    I am not even remotely a first timer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cupid View Post
    Ok, but can you provide a particular reason or reasons for why you say that?

    I am not even remotely a first timer.
    So what are your stats, cycle history and objective?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    So what are your stats, cycle history and objective?
    25
    5'6
    183 lbs
    10% BF
    Been on TRT for 3 years, in the meanwhile have had several blasts.
    I really am not in the mood to start preaching about myself and bring up specific examples - plz take my word for it - I am not a fucking novice.

    My question was NOT whether or not to run that cycle.

    My question was whether or not I should avoid any of those 6 items I listed while running that cycle. I DO NOT need to take any of those 6 items - they are a choice.

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    Would not use tren if are 25 and already need a diuretic for bp control.

    If you need all this medication you should focus on your health and not on taking something like tren which is very harsh on the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cupid View Post
    25
    5'6
    183 lbs
    10% BF
    Been on TRT for 3 years, in the meanwhile have had several blasts.
    I really am not in the mood to start preaching about myself and bring up specific examples - plz take my word for it - I am not a fucking novice.

    My question was NOT whether or not to run that cycle.

    My question was whether or not I should avoid any of those 6 items I listed while running that cycle. I DO NOT need to take any of those 6 items - they are a choice.
    Don't mean to derail this thread but at 25 years old and running TRT for a few years now I'm kind of wondering was the TRT worth it and did it change your life somehow?

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    I am suprised you are prescribed adderall if you have bp issues.
    Bb is right it is early and wasteful if it is your first or even 5th cycle.
    If you do it you should be constantly monitoring bp.

    Tren, adderal, t3... Thats a lotta fat burner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    I am suprised you are prescribed adderall if you have bp issues.
    Bb is right it is early and wasteful if it is your first or even 5th cycle.
    If you do it you should be constantly monitoring bp.

    Tren, adderal, t3... Thats a lotta fat burner.
    I don't have BP issues.
    I just prefer to keep it totally on check while on cycle.
    I have ran 250 test prop, 250 npp, 500 eq, and 50mg/day var with t3 before and had almost no BP issues - the HCTZ is just for precaution.

    The aderall is not taken daily, sometimes I go weeks w/o it. It's only when I feel the added focus is necessary for work.

    I am not prescribed any of these things out of needing them.
    My father is a doctor - therefore I am prescribed w/e I want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cupid View Post
    I have searched around the forum and there are a few points which I cannot find any answer to.
    I am well aware these are complicated questions but maybe someone here has experience or enough knowledge to answer.

    ....

    I am pretty careful with everything already. I am just being overly cautious and wanting to see if anyone sees a potentially dangerous combination that I am not seeing here. Please let me know.

    Thx!
    I don't see any significant interaction there, but some of the drugs like the diuretic are no joke and you should refrain if your BP is fine. The concept it's pretty simple - if ain't broken, don't fix it.

    Taking a DA while on progestins is wise though, but prami is an horrible choice, increase it slowly. Occasional adderall is not a problem, and they don't really work the same manner. In fact, prami is more of downer drug than anything.

    Same goes for doxycycline. Are you already experiencing acne or you just take as prevention?

    Why the Sodium Oxybate plus zolpidem combo?

    .5mg arimidex/anastrozole ED is quite a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    I don't see any significant interaction there, but some of the drugs like the diuretic are no joke and you should refrain if your BP is fine. The concept it's pretty simple - if ain't broken, don't fix it.

    Taking a DA while on progestins is wise though, but prami is an horrible choice, increase it slowly. Occasional adderall is not a problem, and they don't really work the same manner. In fact, prami is more of downer drug than anything.

    Same goes for doxycycline. Are you already experiencing acne or you just take as prevention?

    Why the Sodium Oxybate plus zolpidem combo?

    .5mg arimidex/anastrozole ED is quite a lot.
    Thank you!

    Regarding the adderall/prami. I would think that the dopamine flush caused my adderall should be more than enough for prolactin control, and would allow me to skip prami on the days I take it? Just curious.

    Pretty much anything other than moderate dose Test has given me acne in the past. A couple years ago a doc told me to take Doxycycline to offset, and it worked well, so now I just take it as prevention with every blast. Yes I can "wait" to see if I experience acne before taking it....but then it takes like 3-4 weeks to clear up.....and seeing how this is only a 6 week blast, by the time it starts fixing the acne, I will be done with the blast lol.

    Regarding the sodium oxybate/zolpidem combo.....please try to read between the lines. Hypothetically, if a person came on this board and said they take street GHB on occasion for recreation/sleep - it would cause problems. Personally, I do not drink alcohol due the shitty effects on your overall health, most of which are non-existent with GHB. My reply to Mr.BB above explains why sometimes the need for a downer to knock me out though.

    I apologize, I mistyped the AI dose and just fixed it. its .5mg EOD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cupid View Post
    Thank you!

    Regarding the adderall/prami. I would think that the dopamine flush caused my adderall should be more than enough for prolactin control, and would allow me to skip prami on the days I take it? Just curious.
    Again, the work differently. There aren't many studies around about amphetamines and prolactin, but the suppressive effect seems to be minimal if any, so don't count on it.

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