17 years old needs to add muscle quickly

[callidus68]

My Son is 17 and a big kid. He wants to play football at the next level and needs to add 25# of muscle before football season next year. He is 17 6'2 220lbs Great lower body strength huge legs just weak on upper body strength.
I know taking Arginine and glutamine before bed will help his body release HGH naturally. Is there a cycle I can put him on to gain muscle mass that will not interfere with his body long term and get results?
Any suggestions his safety is number 1 concern.

[Test Monsterone]

Sounds suspect. Why would a dad post on behalf of his son? You would just say that you want to do it and don't want want any long-term effects.

[HoldMyBeer]

Whaaaaaaaaaaat?

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[The God Himself]

Stay away from anabolic steroids at this age, if you value your life.
Good diet, good sleep and good training will be more than enough.

[German89]

Lmfaooo.. uhhh why not just get him to the gym 3 to 5x a week? He'll blow up.

[Eduke93]

My Son is 17 and a big kid. He wants to play football at the next level and needs to add 25# of muscle before football season next year. He is 17 6'2 220lbs Great lower body strength huge legs just weak on upper body strength.
I know taking Arginine and glutamine before bed will help his body release HGH naturally. Is there a cycle I can put him on to gain muscle mass that will not interfere with his body long term and get results?
Any suggestions his safety is number 1 concern.

Got to be a troll...

[GearHeaded]

he is only 17 years old and 220 pounds .. umm why exactly does he need to drastically add size and get on gear.

[Leggodess]

I have friends who used TRENBOLONE ACE, Testosterone E, and other things to help them gain size and strength.

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[The God Himself]

I have friends who used TRENBOLONE ACE, Testosterone E, and other things to help them gain size and strength.

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Are you serious? I hope not.

[Chrisp83TRT]

This has to be a joke...

If this is for real, you need to seriously go and take a class on how to be a good parent because in my opinion you’d take the cake for shittiest dad of the year award.


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[Testlolblast]

I remember when I was 17 I asked one person to sell me 2 packets of methan...lol. Thanks God he was clever enough not to sell me that.

[Obs]

Lmao!

[Couchlockd]

Step 1) break the ps4 or xbox1
Step 2) break his phone
Step 3) invest in a good wide grip flat bench and 300lb Olympic barbell set and some 25 and 65 lbs dumbbell.

Step 4) make him lift, stop dropping cash on junk food, and make him eat clean.

[charger69]

My Son is 17 and a big kid. He wants to play football at the next level and needs to add 25# of muscle before football season next year. He is 17 6'2 220lbs Great lower body strength huge legs just weak on upper body strength.
I know taking Arginine and glutamine before bed will help his body release HGH naturally. Is there a cycle I can put him on to gain muscle mass that will not interfere with his body long term and get results?
Any suggestions his safety is number 1 concern.

It’s called proper diet.


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[balance]

It’s called proper diet.


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Totally agree!
I’m trying to think if I have eve seen a 220lb teenager that wasn’t above 20% BF.
I know they exist but it is beyond rare.

[callidus68]

Some of the responses. Interesting. He is actually our smallest lineman at 220. Works out 5 days a week. Diet is not great. He is eating 4-5 meals a day. high school football is very competitive.
You guys should check out. Last night he was up against a JR that was 6'6" and 322lbs. So yeah we are working out, getting rest, eating but he is not adding he weight and muscle upper body he needs. His legs are huge and strong. He is repping 405 on the back squat. Upper body is under developed. I was thinking a bump to jump start his upper body development. D-anabol25
Like a 6-8 week cycle just 1. But after reading Marcus's post. I think staying with the products that help the body naturally produce these hormones is the way to go. For all you knuckle heads deauche bags, answer the question or pass it by. Don't be a Dick.

[charger69]

Some of the responses. Interesting. He is actually our smallest lineman at 220. Works out 5 days a week. Diet is not great. He is eating 4-5 meals a day. high school football is very competitive.
You guys should check out. Last night he was up against a JR that was 6'6" and 322lbs. So yeah we are working out, getting rest, eating but he is not adding he weight and muscle upper body he needs. His legs are huge and strong. He is repping 405 on the back squat. Upper body is under developed. I was thinking a bump to jump start his upper body development. D-anabol25
Like a 6-8 week cycle just 1. But after reading Marcus's post. I think staying with the products that help the body naturally produce these hormones is the way to go. For all you knuckle heads deauche bags, answer the question or pass it by. Don't be a Dick.

AAS gets a bad rap for things like this. They may not put it politically correct, but listen to the experts!!!
At his age he has so nuch to lose and what to gain????
Football is not all physical. If you do not have the size, then use the brain.
Even if he takes AAS, he will not be able to physically match him at 322.
I played offensive guard and was very light. I made the difference in my quickness and where I had him go when blocking.


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[GearHeaded]

For all you knuckle heads deauche bags, answer the question or pass it by. Don't be a Dick.

calling people 'knuckle head deauche bags' in a place that YOU are the one that asked for help in.. umm, thats being a dick .


ok lets say your kid runs a few cycles . puts on 30 pounds. plays college ball for a couple years and thats about the most that comes out of this.
BUT his natural HPTA is now shut down , he is infertile on top of it. he won't ever have kids. heck with his limp dick he may never even find a girl (so maybe he just ends up being a 'bottom boy' for a former team mate of his). then on top of it he may need TRT for the rest of his life. average cost of that over a life span is over $200k.

seems like a lot to risk to put on your boy, all just for a 'game' that you probably dream about playing yourself but can't. you'd hate to ruin his life over your own selfish insecurities or false dreams

btw- yes I'm purposely trying to come across as a "dick"

[Couchlockd]

Some of the responses. Interesting. He is actually our smallest lineman at 220. Works out 5 days a week. Diet is not great. He is eating 4-5 meals a day. high school football is very competitive.
You guys should check out. Last night he was up against a JR that was 6'6" and 322lbs. So yeah we are working out, getting rest, eating but he is not adding he weight and muscle upper body he needs. His legs are huge and strong. He is repping 405 on the back squat. Upper body is under developed. I was thinking a bump to jump start his upper body development. D-anabol25
Like a 6-8 week cycle just 1. But after reading Marcus's post. I think staying with the products that help the body naturally produce these hormones is the way to go. For all you knuckle heads deauche bags, answer the question or pass it by. Don't be a Dick.

The things you're looking at, D-Anabol 25 is not steroids it's just vitamin herbal supplements.

Most likely the sides he experiences from actual real steroids will be hard for him to mentally deal with and hinder his ability.

He may get a bit bigger and stronger, but hell more than likely loose his drive.

Also he's going to ruin the rest of his life doing it so young, ESPECIALLY with parental support encouraging it's use. You'll open the flood gates so to speak.

[charger69]

calling people 'knuckle head deauche bags' in a place that YOU are the one that asked for help in.. umm, thats being a dick .


ok lets say your kid runs a few cycles . puts on 30 pounds. plays college ball for a couple years and thats about the most that comes out of this.
BUT his natural HPTA is now shut down , he is infertile on top of it. he won't ever have kids. heck with his limp dick he may never even find a girl (so maybe he just ends up being a 'bottom boy' for a former team mate of his). then on top of it he may need TRT for the rest of his life. average cost of that over a life span is over $200k.

seems like a lot to risk to put on your boy, all just for a 'game' that you probably dream about playing yourself but can't. you'd hate to ruin his life over your own selfish insecurities or false dreams

btw- yes I'm purposely trying to come across as a "dick"

Thank you GH- I don’t have a secretary therefore I try not to type too much. LOL


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[Couchlockd]

calling people 'knuckle head deauche bags' in a place that YOU are the one that asked for help in.. umm, thats being a dick .


ok lets say your kid runs a few cycles . puts on 30 pounds. plays college ball for a couple years and thats about the most that comes out of this.
BUT his natural HPTA is now shut down , he is infertile on top of it. he won't ever have kids. heck with his limp dick he may never even find a girl (so maybe he just ends up being a 'bottom boy' for a former team mate of his). then on top of it he may need TRT for the rest of his life. average cost of that over a life span is over $200k.

seems like a lot to risk to put on your boy, all just for a 'game' that you probably dream about playing yourself but can't. you'd hate to ruin his life over your own selfish insecurities or false dreams

btw- yes I'm purposely trying to come across as a "dick"

Also asking how to effectively administer scheduled controlled substances to your minor child to fullfil you failed fantasy that never was

Being a "Dick" is more than appropriate in this case.

[charger69]

Ok, OP. Listen to the experts!! You came here for advice. You have received it from some of the best.
We are all trying to help you, but you do not like our answers. Sit down, think about them, and then make your decision.

Please do not refer to the people that are experts as dick heads. You can disagree, but you are burning bridges.

The last time I will interject. Good luck and please consider what they have said.


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[Oldemor]

What a shitty parent.

Get him to start strongman if you want him to be this gigantic hulk you dream about.

Supplements don't really help like you think they do.


Eat more, lift more and sleep more.

[callidus68]

He is left tackle and solid techniques. 33 act. He will get a academic scholarship and will move to tight end if he plays at the next level. He wants to get a football scholarship. That's his goal. He has a lean frame. He will max out at 6'3 to 6'4 245-250. I'm not one to side step. But though if we could get over this hurdle he would explode. We will keep pushing naturally and see what happens. Thanks

[callidus68]

Your opinion of me is none of my buisness. So keep it to yourself.

[callidus68]

I did not say he was taking them. Only asked if there was a safe option for someone his age. I only received criticism and no clear answer. Other than you all think I'm looking at a super stack or something crazy like that. This is the first and last forum I will consult. Thanks for nothing

[AR's King Silabolin]

Sure man.
Cycle is:

A gallion of milk ed.
Complex carbs 100 gs 6 times ed.
As much water as possible.

This his only cycle.
And the most anabolic cycle there is.

If not enough, increase the dose to 150 gs ed.

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[Couchlockd]

I did not say he was taking them. Only asked if there was a safe option for someone his age. I only received criticism and no clear answer. Other than you all think I'm looking at a super stack or something crazy like that. This is the first and last forum I will consult. Thanks for nothing

That's it...

[GearHeaded]

I don't think the OP has really comprehended this -- his son has only been producing adult male levels of testosterone for only about 24 months now. thats it. and after that very short time he is considering shutting that system completely down (perhaps he does't realize this is what happens once you get on steroids).

24 months, if that, of adult male life span is a very very short life span for a pair of testicles. turning them off at only 17 years old (barely removed from puberty) is just a terrible idea.

so would just like to give the OP the benefit of the doubt , he probably doesn't realize how AAS use works and what he' biologically would be doing to his son

[Obs]

I did not say he was taking them. Only asked if there was a safe option for someone his age. I only received criticism and no clear answer. Other than you all think I'm looking at a super stack or something crazy like that. This is the first and last forum I will consult. Thanks for nothing

I am being constructive in telling you that there is no exogenous hormone that can be administered to your son without shutting down his natural production and limiting his potential as well as possibly damaging it for life.

Your son might have to inject himself for the rest of his life... You dont want that.

I am not mr. Safety around here. Perhaps you can understand its not every day a father asks this question about his son so people tend to look at it a little sideways. I understand you want whats best for your son. The answers to your question are here.

[Obs]

Ok, OP. Listen to the experts!! You came here for advice. You have received it from some of the best.
We are all trying to help you, but you do not like our answers. Sit down, think about them, and then make your decision.

Please do not refer to the people that are experts as dick heads. You can disagree, but you are burning bridges.

The last time I will interject. Good luck and please consider what they have said.


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I am no expert but I am a dick head.

Speaking of which has anyone seen Richard Head? I would appreciate his thoughts here.

[Chrisp83TRT]

As you being a father ,looking for your son to take anything related to steroids at the age of 17 is very insulting to him and you as a parent.
I assume you live in a state where sports is a religion so to Speak .

You want to be a good dad ... push him with knowledge and wisdom for him to be and do better in life.
If sports is the end all be all, then you both get on a better diet and training schedule.
AAS has NO place in your sons life .... Period. I don’t care what he is up against or what challenges he faces.
You as a parent should be there to guide him and help him through the way in the most productive and safe/healthy
Way possible.
People are throwing you under the bus because you coming here wanting to give your son gear at the age of 17 is fucking terrible.

[redz]

He won’t hit 6’4 if you stunt his growth With steroids.

[Test Monsterone]

steroids are a temporary solution with permanent consequences. You won't keep your gains unless you never hit your genetic potential. The only way to keep gains is to stay on steroids. He may never reach pro level, but the effects of steroids will stay with him for the rest of his life. I waited until 32 to start. I knew once I started there is no going back. I am ok with that. Will he be?

[Aerospace]

Testosterone and Nandrolone

[redz]

Aerospace you need to stop giving out retarded advice. You spew the same shit everywhere. You clearly know nothing.