Deca shut down

[jackfrost88]

I commonly hear people talk about how "deca will shut you down." I was curious if anyone knew where this came from. Is there a study or any scientific proof of this that is available? Or is this purely anecdotal. I read a couple of studies showing that it is suppressive - but they did not outline to what degree (as that was not the point of the study, but rather to see muscle growth and joint relieving properties).

If anecdotal, can people that have ran deca and PCT'd describe how they found their recovery? Obviously this varies greatly from person to person as all responses to steroids do but I would like to see if there is any truth to this claim.

Thank you for the information!

[CALLMEOCT]

The severe shutdown from 19-nor’s like Deca Durabolin are from elevated prolactin.
In terms of Estradiol, Controling it will only partially fix the problem.

My first recommendation would be a Blood work.

If your estrogen is under control you will not have prolactin sides. That said, the test/deca combo makes estrogen very difficult to control, and if it creeps a little up there prolactin sides are going to be pop up too.

If you happen to run Deca and end up shut down, I’d recommend Cabergoline - CABER - (tabs not liquid) at 0.5mg twice per week, while keeping estradiol levels in check. That should get things back to normal after a month or so.

Ideally you should be starting this prior to PCT, aka run Caber while on cycle to prevent this issues to happen.

You may want to taper from 100mg test per week to make the transition easier, or add some proviron to the mix.

[Windex]

Real Life Example: My Free Testosterone score hovers around mid 600's on my HRT program (reference range is 136-636).

The first time I pinned deca (50mg, nothing else added to HRT), I ran bloodwork 24 hours later. My free testosterone score was over 2200. This shows Nandrolone is active immediately when it's metabolized in the body.

An experimental example would be taking two naturals. Natty A pins 1000mg of Testosterone and runs FSH/LH bloodwork 24 hours later. Natty B pins 1000mg of Deca (arbitrary dosages) and does the same FSH/LH bloodwork 24 hours later.

Natty B is going to have FSH/LH levels close to if not 0, indicating shutdown and surpression.

Nandrolone is the most suppressive steroid.

[CALLMEOCT]

Nandrolone is the most suppressive steroid.

Major reason i never touched Deca.