Catching gyno early.... Reversible?

[Killah_Keith]

I may have started to get very minor gyno on one side. It is slightly, and I mean very slightly tender. And if I push around enough, I can feel "something".

If this is indeed beginning stages of gyno, what are the steps to attack it?



I was on 40mg daily of Dbol. Stopped that one week ago.

[< <Samson> >]

Just dBol?

Run some nolvadex, it makes it calm down for most

[Killah_Keith]

On top of my normal TRT dose. 200/week

Should have mentioned that.

[Fit4Florida]

You must aromatize very easily. I am interested to see what the Vets respond with as I’ve read two very contrasting articles on this. AND have a few concerns/confusion myself going into a cycle this week.

I’ve read that Nolvadex will only serve to reduce the speed and degree in which you are aromatizing test to estradiol, and that only Letrazole will reverse gyno.

That was totally contradictory to another article that I’ve read recently saying that only the use of Nolvadex can reverse the gyno and letrazole was used to slow the aromatization that results in gyno.

Confused the shit out of me because both seem to be written by very respected and knowledgeable bodybuilders??????? I bought both just to be certain I’d have them on hand in case of gyno and I plan to use the nolva for PCT.

In either case I’d increase the nolva and reduce the DBol until you get sound advice. Sorry I can’t be of more help I’m sure you will resolve it soon.

[Killah_Keith]

I've been on TRT for 2 years now.

I've done one other cycle besides this:

250 Test/Deca
50 Anavar
No AI

This time around I ran the Dbol for 5 weeks as a strength much start. That ended one week ago. Dbol is new to me. The problem comes from The much more problematic conversion to to methyl-estradiol.

I realized I didn't mention that now. I'm currently running my second cycle as follows:

250 Test E/Deca/Masteron
Dbol 5 weeks in the beginning
4 weeks no orals
End with 50 Anavar for 8 weeks
I've never used an AI

I wouldn't say I have a high affinity to convert or get gyno.

I've had my estrogen is high of 75pg/ml with no side effects at all.

[Killah_Keith]

I have Letrozole on hand.

I took one this morning. I'm going to wait a week and see what happens.

I'm also going to get my blood work done after that week and assess the situation.




You're absolutely correct, an extreme amount of contradictory information out there. And they are all so sure they are the ones that are correct.

[Honkey_Kong]

250mg of deca is enough?

[< <Samson> >]

250mg of deca is enough?

Enough is a matter of opinion


I’m about to jump back on 150mg a week again

[Mooseman33]

letro is a mother fucker, be careful

[Killah_Keith]

250mg of deca is enough?

I'm not using it for bulking or anything like that.

I want the therapeutic benefits.

[Honkey_Kong]

Enough is a matter of opinion


I’m about to jump back on 150mg a week again

I wasn't sure if he was running it for pain relief or if he was trying to bulk.

I'm not using it for bulking or anything like that.

I want the therapeutic benefits.

That answers the question.

[< <Samson> >]

150mg is plenty for me, joints feel great & my dick still works

[Fit4Florida]

letro is a mother fucker, be careful

Not to highjack the thread but since he is likely going to be using it as he has it on hand, and I am curious: can you elaborate?

[Killah_Keith]

Not to highjack the thread but since he is likely going to be using it as he has it on hand, and I am curious: can you elaborate?

Letrozole can crash your estrogen like no other. It's more of a last resort. It also comes with a host of other side effects.


I was giving it by one of those Anti-aging clinics when first getting on TRT. Which was the reason I immediately canceled them and went the DIY route.

Coincidentally, turned out to be nice to have on hand as my last ditch effort. The nipple soreness diminished. I do not think I will need to take another.

[Fit4Florida]

Got it, thanks. Glad it’s gotten better.