Cutting cycle advice

[Gymbro69]

Hey guys,

Will try and keep this short and sweet,

I have plenty of knowledge and experience running bulking cycles but absolutely 0 experience with cutting cycles or cutting compounds and desperately need advice.

My last cycle was the following:

Test E 600mg/week weeks 1-12
Tren E 400mg/week weeks 1-12
Anadrol 50mg/day weeks 1-6
1mg Arimadex EOD weeks 2-12
0.5mg Arimadex EOD weeks 13-14
TUDCA 1x/day weeks 1-21
Milk thistle 1x/day weeks 1/21

PCT:
Start PCT 2 weeks after last injection
Weeks 1-2:
HCG 500iu EOD
Nolvadex 20mg/day
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Cardarine 20mg/day 10mg/am 10mg/pm
Weeks 3-7:
Nolvadex: 40/20/20/20/10/day
Clomid: 50/50/25/25/12.5/day
Ostarine: 25/25/25/12.5
Cardarine 20mg/day 10mg/am 10mg/pm

Before this I’d ran 4 other cycles
Test only
Test and Ana
Test and Ana again (higher dose)
Test Ana and tren
Then the cycle above^

I’m now keen on a cutting cycle but my question is what in the fuck do I run and at what dosages 😂 I can easily copy the OCT and PCT from my last cycle but the main compounds is where I’m at a loss. It’s worth noting I get my heart checked before and after each cycle and I get bloods done before, during, and after. Haven’t had any side effects yet, hopefully she stays that way 😁

I refuse to run clen (personal choice) but I would like to run a high test base and I’m open to running anavar, winny, primo, mast, and EQ as I know these are all popular cutting compounds, I would consider running T3 but my knowledge is extremely limited here. And I’d consider running Tren again but probably at a lower dosage than my last cycle.

Stats:

5,11
121kg
15% BF

Let me know if I need to add anything else.

Thank you so much for any cycle reccomendations you guys can provide it’s highly appreciated 😁

[Honkey_Kong]

Hey guys,

Will try and keep this short and sweet,

I have plenty of knowledge and experience running bulking cycles but absolutely 0 experience with cutting cycles or cutting compounds and desperately need advice.

My last cycle was the following:

Test E 600mg/week weeks 1-12
Tren E 400mg/week weeks 1-12
Anadrol 50mg/day weeks 1-6
1mg Arimadex EOD weeks 2-12
0.5mg Arimadex EOD weeks 13-14
TUDCA 1x/day weeks 1-21
Milk thistle 1x/day weeks 1/21

PCT:
Start PCT 2 weeks after last injection
Weeks 1-2:
HCG 500iu EOD
Nolvadex 20mg/day
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Cardarine 20mg/day 10mg/am 10mg/pm
Weeks 3-7:
Nolvadex: 40/20/20/20/10/day
Clomid: 50/50/25/25/12.5/day
Ostarine: 25/25/25/12.5
Cardarine 20mg/day 10mg/am 10mg/pm

Before this I’d ran 4 other cycles
Test only
Test and Ana
Test and Ana again (higher dose)
Test Ana and tren
Then the cycle above^

I’m now keen on a cutting cycle but my question is what in the fuck do I run and at what dosages �� I can easily copy the OCT and PCT from my last cycle but the main compounds is where I’m at a loss. It’s worth noting I get my heart checked before and after each cycle and I get bloods done before, during, and after. Haven’t had any side effects yet, hopefully she stays that way ��

I refuse to run clen (personal choice) but I would like to run a high test base and I’m open to running anavar, winny, primo, mast, and EQ as I know these are all popular cutting compounds, I would consider running T3 but my knowledge is extremely limited here. And I’d consider running Tren again but probably at a lower dosage than my last cycle.

Stats:

5,11
121kg
15% BF

Let me know if I need to add anything else.

Thank you so much for any cycle reccomendations you guys can provide it’s highly appreciated ��

A good 8 week cut cycle could look like test p 250-300/ tren a 200-400 / mast p 200-400 would work well. I wouldn't bother with mast for longer than 8 weeks though. How well your cut is going to be is 90% diet though.

Really though, I wouldn't try with too much test. Let the other steroids do the heavy lifting.

[Gymbro69]

Thanks for the advice dude! Diet will definitely be in check, what’s the reason for stopping the mas after 8 weeks? I was hoping to run the test for 12 weeks total ��

[Gymbro69]

If anyone else out there is reading this and has more ideas/advice I’d be happy to hear them ��

[Cylon357]

A good 8 week cut cycle could look like test p 250-300/ tren a 200-400 / mast p 200-400 would work well. I wouldn't bother with mast for longer than 8 weeks though. How well your cut is going to be is 90% diet though.

Really though, I wouldn't try with too much test. Let the other steroids do the heavy lifting.

If anyone else out there is reading this and has more ideas/advice I’d be happy to hear them ��

Honkey_Kong said it all in bold. No juice will allow you to out train a bad diet. I should know, I've tried. Anyhow, cuts start in the kitchen. Get that dialed in first.

With that though, pretty much any cycle you have there will work. Definitely do NOT want to be using that much adex though.

Also agree with HK that high test probably isn't the way to go. Maybe some thing like 400mg test, with a var kickstart, then halfway through, drop the vat, drop the test to 200mg and run mast p for the back half at 200mg too. I'm just spit balling there though.

I would run hcg throughout the cycle at 500 to 750iu per week, right up to the day you start PCT.

BTW, I do like cardarine, that stuff is reps in a bottle in my experience.

[Mooseman33]

while cutting we run chems to maintain muscle.

Your diet and cardio will be the cut. keep it simple, no high dose test.
Min is what you want, without diet and cardio the chems wont do shit to cut.

[Cuz]

Hey guys,

Will try and keep this short and sweet,

I have plenty of knowledge and experience running bulking cycles but absolutely 0 experience with cutting cycles or cutting compounds and desperately need advice.

My last cycle was the following:

Test E 600mg/week weeks 1-12
Tren E 400mg/week weeks 1-12
Anadrol 50mg/day weeks 1-6
1mg Arimadex EOD weeks 2-12
0.5mg Arimadex EOD weeks 13-14
TUDCA 1x/day weeks 1-21
Milk thistle 1x/day weeks 1/21

PCT:
Start PCT 2 weeks after last injection
Weeks 1-2:
HCG 500iu EOD
Nolvadex 20mg/day
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Cardarine 20mg/day 10mg/am 10mg/pm
Weeks 3-7:
Nolvadex: 40/20/20/20/10/day
Clomid: 50/50/25/25/12.5/day
Ostarine: 25/25/25/12.5
Cardarine 20mg/day 10mg/am 10mg/pm

Before this I’d ran 4 other cycles
Test only
Test and Ana
Test and Ana again (higher dose)
Test Ana and tren
Then the cycle above^

I’m now keen on a cutting cycle but my question is what in the fuck do I run and at what dosages �� I can easily copy the OCT and PCT from my last cycle but the main compounds is where I’m at a loss. It’s worth noting I get my heart checked before and after each cycle and I get bloods done before, during, and after. Haven’t had any side effects yet, hopefully she stays that way ��

I refuse to run clen (personal choice) but I would like to run a high test base and I’m open to running anavar, winny, primo, mast, and EQ as I know these are all popular cutting compounds, I would consider running T3 but my knowledge is extremely limited here. And I’d consider running Tren again but probably at a lower dosage than my last cycle.

Stats:

5,11
121kg
15% BF

Let me know if I need to add anything else.

Thank you so much for any cycle reccomendations you guys can provide it’s highly appreciated ��

What exactly do you do for your “heart check” before and after each cycle? High test base is controversial on a cut some do some dont I personally am not a fan of it

[Honkey_Kong]

Thanks for the advice dude! Diet will definitely be in check, what’s the reason for stopping the mas after 8 weeks? I was hoping to run the test for 12 weeks total ��

I said to limit the cycle down to 8 weeks, because of bp issues and lipid profile problems. That and it's not going to burn the fat off you anyways

And really, if your body fat is above 10%, you're not going to even experience the benefit of masteron anyways.

Plus, the longer you cut, the more muscle you're likely to lose during the cut. The point of steroids in the cut is to limit the amount of muscle lost, but it still happens.

If you want to run a longer cut cycle. I suppose test e for the full 12 weeks, test p for the first 4 weeks and then running masteron from week 5 would be an idea. At least then the masteron would be used at a point where you're lower in body fat and then it can give you more of that hardening effect

[Cylon357]

And really, if your body fat is above 10%, you're not going to even experience the benefit of masteron anyways.

We hear this a lot, but I have found it to be a little misleading. Even at 20ish percent bodyfat, SOMEHOW the hardening effects show through for me. Mostly in the form of increased vascularity and tightening, maybe through the loss of subcutaneous water / estrogen control? But yeah, I definitely notice a difference with even low dose masteron in the mix.

Now, will you see more benefit if you wait? Yeah, I believe so, and good gravy would that be a way to look peeled!

Plus, I get mental benefits (maybe too much sometimes), libido (again, too much?) and strength from it.

[AR's King Silabolin]

Hey guys,

Will try and keep this short and sweet,

I have plenty of knowledge and experience running bulking cycles but absolutely 0 experience with cutting cycles or cutting compounds and desperately need advice.

My last cycle was the following:

Test E 600mg/week weeks 1-12
Tren E 400mg/week weeks 1-12
Anadrol 50mg/day weeks 1-6
1mg Arimadex EOD weeks 2-12
0.5mg Arimadex EOD weeks 13-14
TUDCA 1x/day weeks 1-21
Milk thistle 1x/day weeks 1/21

PCT:
Start PCT 2 weeks after last injection
Weeks 1-2:
HCG 500iu EOD
Nolvadex 20mg/day
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Cardarine 20mg/day 10mg/am 10mg/pm
Weeks 3-7:
Nolvadex: 40/20/20/20/10/day
Clomid: 50/50/25/25/12.5/day
Ostarine: 25/25/25/12.5
Cardarine 20mg/day 10mg/am 10mg/pm

Before this I’d ran 4 other cycles
Test only
Test and Ana
Test and Ana again (higher dose)
Test Ana and tren
Then the cycle above^

I’m now keen on a cutting cycle but my question is what in the fuck do I run and at what dosages [emoji23] I can easily copy the OCT and PCT from my last cycle but the main compounds is where I’m at a loss. It’s worth noting I get my heart checked before and after each cycle and I get bloods done before, during, and after. Haven’t had any side effects yet, hopefully she stays that way [emoji16]

I refuse to run clen (personal choice) but I would like to run a high test base and I’m open to running anavar, winny, primo, mast, and EQ as I know these are all popular cutting compounds, I would consider running T3 but my knowledge is extremely limited here. And I’d consider running Tren again but probably at a lower dosage than my last cycle.

Stats:

5,11
121kg
15% BF

Let me know if I need to add anything else.

Thank you so much for any cycle reccomendations you guys can provide it’s highly appreciated [emoji16]

I just go easy on test, diabol etc.
More focus on deca, tren, mast etc.

Simple cause everything is in the diett.
For me extending the eating window to +15 hours, training fasted and just one carb meal a day, do the trick.
Cardio is not so important to get ripped i think.
Watch insulin. When u eat carbs, always start with fat n pro. This will make sure the insulin productions from your carbs are at min, and then you will add much less fat.

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[Gymbro69]

Heart check involves having a heart CT scan and an exercise ecg stress test, would you recommend anything else that I’m missing? I know there are other scans but the doc reckons the CT gives the best look at everything and he can order other tests based on the results if needed

[Gymbro69]

Sorry for the late reply guys I haven’t been able to log in for the last week no idea why

[Gymbro69]

Been thinking about running this:
50mg Anavar ED weeks 1-6
200mg Test e 12 weeks 200mg
400mg Tren e 12 weeks 400mg
400mg Mast E weeks 6-12

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, ��

[Mooseman33]

after re-reading this I strongly feel the only thing u need is diet and cardio. I say this with respect, 2 really important things u dont know much about. you are 5'11 almost 270lbs man, thats huge. To many claim 15%, would love to see pic at that size before suggesting anymore chems.
Brotha, you def have the discipline as it shows you can get massive, just use that to cut up. You will be amazed what a real diet and cardio does for you, and how fast the results show. Shed some pounds, then throw some chems in to finish the recomp and you will be big and lean!!

[Gymbro69]

after re-reading this I strongly feel the only thing u need is diet and cardio. I say this with respect, 2 really important things u dont know much about. you are 5'11 almost 270lbs man, thats huge. To many claim 15%, would love to see pic at that size before suggesting anymore chems.
Brotha, you def have the discipline as it shows you can get massive, just use that to cut up. You will be amazed what a real diet and cardio does for you, and how fast the results show. Shed some pounds, then throw some chems in to finish the recomp and you will be big and lean!!

Hey man, Thank you for your kind words, the reason I’m wanting to go the chems route is because I have worked so incredibly hard for these gains and I want to make sure I lose the bare minimum amount of mass while I cut plus getting that hardened look is always nice! I did a body scan a few weeks ago which had me at 15% I’d upload pics but I sport some extremely recognisable tattoos so that’s just not an option 😂
I’m having a contest experienced dietician write up a cycle for me and I’ll be smashing cardio on top of my normal training so that side of things would be in check, this was going to be my last “big” cycle outside of what I may need to maintain the size 😁

[Mooseman33]

fully understand on the tat thing. but at that size bud it has to be almost uncomfortable. letting go of some size may not be a bad thing for the heart.
at ur height, 240 is still solid as shit and thats 30 lbs less! dont be so cared to lose a little, age is a bitch.
be healthy, goodluck brotha