My first Cycle

[Stryder21]

Ok, I'm 21 165lbs 5'10. Been training for 3 years on and off. Been training 1 year steady 3-5 times a week depending on my schedule.

Week 1-12 Test Depot 250 - 500mg
Week 4-12 Winstrol - 150mg

PCT
clomid
day 1 300mg
day 2-11 100mg ed
day 12-21 50 mg ed

[DARKSEID]

what sort of goals are you looking to attain here?

[Stryder21]

Strength and Size

[the dent depot]

Drop the winny...
I would train longer than a year though before adding a hormone to your body...

You do seem to have your head on right with your Test dosage though....shoot for the low end of your range though......

Remember...if you dont have these things right...gear wont do sh!t...in this order:
1)Diet
2)Training
3)Rest
4)Supplements
5) Then you can consider gear

JMHO

D

[DARKSEID]

Drop the winny...
I would train longer than a year though before adding a hormone to your body...

You do seem to have your head on right with your Test dosage though....shoot for the low end of your range though......

Remember...if you dont have these things right...gear wont do sh!t...in this order:
1)Diet
2)Training
3)Rest
4)Supplements
5) Then you can consider gear

JMHO

D

That dosage gets argued alot but I agree with dent I went with 250 first time,
worked well just see how your body takes it. Test alone is fine for a first cycle

[JohnnyB]

1 year of training isn't enough get at least another year and a half. Go to a Dr and get your growth plates checked if they're closed you can juice if not you need to wait.

JohnnyB

[Stryder21]

My room mate at 6'1 250lbs suggested I stack the Test with Winny to keep me harder and for the strength boost. At first I was going to get Fina but reading up on it made me decide not to. You guys think I should just do the test by itself?

thanks for all the responses so far, i'll keep lurking

[DARKSEID]

My room mate at 6'1 250lbs suggested I stack the Test with Winny to keep me harder and for the strength boost. At first I was going to get Fina but reading up on it made me decide not to. You guys think I should just do the test by itself?

thanks for all the responses so far, i'll keep lurking

Stick with the test and although most people don't wanna do it, take JB's advice and get everything checked first

[groverman1]

I agree drop the winny. Go with a test cycle.

[Ntpadude]

My room mate at 6'1 250lbs suggested I stack the Test with Winny to keep me harder and for the strength boost. At first I was going to get Fina but reading up on it made me decide not to. You guys think I should just do the test by itself?

thanks for all the responses so far, i'll keep lurking

Everything I have heard about Winnie is that I know I'll never do it. Over and over again you hear of guys taking this, then ending up with an injury to rotator cuff, knee or other major joint in their body and damage is bad and last for years if not forever. Winnie is probably the one steroid everyone should avoid like AIDS.

[JohnnyB]

I agree drop the winny. Go with a test cycle.

I agree winny isn't the best choice to many sides. If you use injectable it need to be injected eod minimum, if you go oral, orals shouldn't be used until you 3rd or 4th cycle.

JohnnyB

[Stryder21]

thanks for all the advice, I'm gonna get rid of the winny and just do test