First Cycle, Questions

[navyseal18]

Whatsup guys, im new here just registerd like 10 minutes ago, Im 18 and i just started my first cycle on Dec 2nd, 8 week cycle of Equipoise, im 5'9 and right now 3 weeks in im weighing 160, when i started on the 2nd i was 145, im eatin as right as i can and as much as possible, (i actually threw up the other night from eating to much, ate a midnight snack then downed it with a protien shake and that did it for me ;/ ) Im taking in about 180-220 grams of protien a day, and TRYING to drink a gallon of water a day which is alot harder than it sounds, ive been workin out for about a year, i decided to juice cause my friend had done 2 cycle and he knew bunch of people that had done it, so i decided to do it cause i need to gain some strength prettty quick, i know EQ isnt the best one for gaining strenght but my friend said i would get alot stronger, more cut, and would gain bout 20 pounds off it, i just wanted some general info, what i can expect, when i should REALLY start seeing results, and how much i would gain etc. etc., so far i can tell a small difference in size, i have yet to take a few pics this weekend, sooo anything u can tell me bout what i can expect from EQ if youve taken it, or anything at all, would be very helpful, thanks

[SUPERWIMP]

apparently your friend should have told ya to wait a few more years

[navyseal18]

apparently your friend should have told ya to wait a few more years

Well hes 19 and he already did two cycles, and in my area, like...everyone does it, in my school, its crazy, and i need to get stronger fast sooo, and in a few years imma be in the navy so i dont think id be able to do it there..and this other kid i know did it and hes 18 he did like 3 cycles and looks pretty amazing, its kinda hard to say know when u see all these other ppl around you that are your age and theyre massive and amazing looking

[Consistency]

hey bro,
you are way to young for AAS. what do u plan on for PCT so you dont lose all your gains? How much are u taking? Research research research

[navyseal18]

hey bro,
you are way to young for AAS. what do u plan on for PCT so you dont lose all your gains? How much are u taking? Research research research

AAS AND PCT? whats that? tell me , and i was taking 1 cc twice a week, tues fridy, and i just uppd it this week to 1.5 cc

[Consistency]

AAS AND PCT? whats that? tell me , and i was taking 1 cc twice a week, tues fridy, and i just uppd it this week to 1.5 cc

AAS is anabolic steroids (the stuff yer taking)

PCT is post cycle therapy, and it is a must if you want to keep your gains and not screw up yer body. It is normally Clomid combined with Nolva. Do a search on it and you will see how important PCT is. without it people have gone into depression, lost sex drive (unable to get it up), lost most all gains, etc...

research!

[SUPERWIMP]

AAS AND PCT? whats that? tell me , and i was taking 1 cc twice a week, tues fridy, and i just uppd it this week to 1.5 cc

with that response right there should tell you to research more. Secondly all of us that are big on this board went through going to the gym and workin out with people bigger than us, so yeah I know where your coming from there. But running AAS at that age with little knowledge ain't gonna get you huge.

[GearAholic]

haha, bro u need to read this then, this is a post from madmax- A TEEN TRAGEDY by Madmax....


Here is a story…. It’s sad but it’s true
About a teen tragedy…that could happen to you
So please listen up…and take my advice
I’ve done told you once...now I’ll tell you twice

I once knew a teen…who thought he was right
So he started his cycle….one winter’s night
He didn’t listen....and I don’t know why
Now his dick isn’t working…. and he’s starting to cry

At first it was great…he felt he was strong
But the gains that he made…didn’t last long
He cried and he cried…because he lost all his gains
And he wonders why… “We tried to explain”

But hey that’s o.k.…go press your luck
Keep using juice…and you will be ****ed
Your hair will fall out…your face will get zits
And if you don’t use nolva…you might grow some tits

Your muscles will grow…right to the end
But when you are done…there’s stretch marks my friend
Your body can’t handle…what you have in store
I thought you were smart…BUT, NOT ANY MORE

For all of the teens…that have decided to juice
Your bodies not ready….for that kind of abuse
So please try some protein…or a weight gainer shake
I’m being real…I’m not being fake

Why waist my time…I guess none of you care
Your balls shrivels up…you loose all your hair
It’s for your own good…so please listen to me
It saves me a thread….that I have to reed

A thread that describes….the symptoms you’re getting
The problems you have….and why you haven’t been ****ting
Why your energies gone…why you test levels are too
Why your workouts are ****…and your sex life is through

Why your nipples are itching…why your voice is now low
Why the only girls you lay…are trailer park ho’s
So please take my advice…stay clean for a bit
And you will soon see…that I’m not full of ****….

[navyseal18]

Hmmm...seems like none of that happend to any of the people i know...maybe if ur a complete idiot that would happen..but i have my friends taking care of me..and they know their ****, they wont let that happen to me eVAR


RAWRR!%!%

[Consistency]

[QUOTE=navyseal18]Hmmm...seems like none of that happend to any of the people i know...maybe if ur a complete idiot that would happen..but i have my friends taking care of me..and they know their ****, they wont let that happen to me eVAR



yer right... who needs PCT??? Dam* what was i thinking!!!

[navyseal18]

[QUOTE=Consistency]

Hmmm...seems like none of that happend to any of the people i know...maybe if ur a complete idiot that would happen..but i have my friends taking care of me..and they know their ****, they wont let that happen to me eVAR



yer right... who needs PCT??? Dam* what was i thinking!!!

consistency...wtf are you talking about...seriously...explain why you would say something like that what are you tr ying to say? that i said my friends didnt do PCT? if thats what ur trying to say then ur wrong...i dont understand at all what point ur trying to make

[Ntpadude]

consistency...wtf are you talking about...seriously...explain why you would say something like that what are you tr ying to say? that i said my friends didnt do PCT? if thats what ur trying to say then ur wrong...i dont understand at all what point ur trying to make

Well you need to learn up what PCT is. There is much more informatino here on the internet, guys selling dope in the gym dont know crap and you do need to understand that there are side effects galore with steroids. If you dont take ancillary drugs to tame down the side effects then you run a lot of risks. PCT is important because many men who dont take PCT drugs end up growing big Dolly Parton boobies and need to have mastectomy to remove the breasts... sometimes these breasts actually squirt milk I understand when trying to do chest workouts!!! Also not doing proper PCT could mean you experience what happened very frequently in the 1970's and 1980's with steroid users... every single pound is LOST within 4 weeks after quitting the steroids. PCT drugs will help you to keep every possible pound and keep some of the strength gains too, these are very important or else why in the funk would you bother doing steroids at all in the first place? Quit being a know it all kid and learn from people on here that KNOW better.

[SUPERWIMP]

Hmmm...seems like none of that happend to any of the people i know...maybe if ur a complete idiot that would happen..but i have my friends taking care of me..and they know their ****, they wont let that happen to me eVAR


RAWRR!%!%

well stupid remarks like this about PCT. And you say that would only happen to a complete idiot, well a complete idiot is someone that doesn't do PCT in my opinion. YOu want help try taking peoples advise we're trying to help you and steer you in the right direction and not **** yourself up at 18

[navyseal18]

well stupid remarks like this about PCT. And you say that would only happen to a complete idiot, well a complete idiot is someone that doesn't do PCT in my opinion. YOu want help try taking peoples advise we're trying to help you and steer you in the right direction and not **** yourself up at 18

yea but im going to do pct, ,and im sayin if i didnt know about it MY Friends would have told me waht to do when i get off my cycle

[GearAholic]

P.C.T- Post Cycle Treatment......haha wow... drops ur nuts back to place helps your body recover...... haha wow can we say research i hope u were joking

[navyseal18]

P.C.T- Post Cycle Treatment......haha wow... drops ur nuts back to place helps your body recover...... haha wow can we say research i hope u were joking

.... you make it sound like i just woke up one morning consulted noone and went out and bought some roids and stuck em in my leg and went to the gym.... so ya aahha i hope "u were joking"..

[SUPERWIMP]

Can anybody on this board explain to me how every newbie knows more about PCT than any of us,and they all feel PCT is bull****

[navyseal18]

Can anybody on this board explain to me how every newbie knows more about PCT than any of us,and they all feel PCT is bull****

... tell me where i said i know more about pct than you, and tell me where i said its bull****,thx, next pls? i ask for help and ur giving me these stupid smartass remarks, why dont u just fkin help me instead of being a prick

[Ntpadude]

Whatsup guys, im new here just registerd like 10 minutes ago, Im 18 and i just started my first cycle on Dec 2nd, 8 week cycle of Equipoise, im 5'9 and right now 3 weeks in im weighing 160, when i started on the 2nd i was 145, im eatin as right as i can and as much as possible, (i actually threw up the other night from eating to much, ate a midnight snack then downed it with a protien shake and that did it for me ;/ ) Im taking in about 180-220 grams of protien a day, and TRYING to drink a gallon of water a day which is alot harder than it sounds, ive been workin out for about a year, i decided to juice cause my friend had done 2 cycle and he knew bunch of people that had done it, so i decided to do it cause i need to gain some strength prettty quick, i know EQ isnt the best one for gaining strenght but my friend said i would get alot stronger, more cut, and would gain bout 20 pounds off it, i just wanted some general info, what i can expect, when i should REALLY start seeing results, and how much i would gain etc. etc., so far i can tell a small difference in size, i have yet to take a few pics this weekend, sooo anything u can tell me bout what i can expect from EQ if youve taken it, or anything at all, would be very helpful, thanks

I gained like you in my first 3 weeks, then stalled thru most of the rest of the cycle... except of course early fat gain and water bloat has been converting to muscle with time... it seems very common for most guys that gain up big in first 3-5 weeks will stall out weight gains for the rest of the cycle but its worth staying on it as you can harden up the weight. You really dont get more then about 15 to 20 lbs of real keepable lean weight mass in a 10 week cycle, any more then that is just flubby beer belly type fat and/or water bloating.

Also I hate to say it but if you ate like this without being on a cycle you probably would have gained just as much weight just the same. You probably have the placebo effect going because most people do not have anabolic levels of hormones in their body until week #5 or after in a cycle so you have probably just proven just how much you did NOT need steroids and could have easily gained without them. The placebo effect is that you are anticipating and expecting results so much that you gorged yourself on food and have really gained the weight naturally before the steroids have had any chance to have an effect at all! Before too long your body is going to demand you slow down so it gets used to the new weight you have gained and will respond by giving you constipation which will force you to slow down eating, but you will learn about the 20-25 # per cycle limitations.

[navyseal18]

So what are you say in, should i stop eatin alot and just go back to my normal appetitte or what?

[Cmah9]

Hey navyseal, I have never juiced. Therefore you can say I am not as experianced in the field, however, I have been researching on here for a few weeks, for a few hours a day. They know what they are talking about, and only tell you to help help. Being as young as you are you should listen to them.

[GearAholic]

bro you are 18 , 5'9 -160 ur test levels are high u should be able to naturally gain at least 20-30lbs just on good diet and good training and much needed rest so no bro i hope you are kidding , btw how many mgs of eq are u taking

[navyseal18]

bro you are 18 , 5'8 -160 ur test levels are high u should be able to naturally gain at least 20-30lbs just on good diet and good training and much needed rest so no bro i hope you are kidding , btw how many mgs of eq are u taking

started off 1 cc twice a week, now up to 1.5 cc's twice a week, duno how much taht is in MG, 8 week cycle

[Consistency]

started off 1 cc twice a week, now up to 1.5 cc's twice a week, duno how much taht is in MG, 8 week cycle

so you are now taking 3cc's a week, but you dont know the mg's? so basically you dont know how much or what you are putting into yer body? just askin

[navyseal18]

so you are now taking 3cc's a week, but you dont know the mg's? so basically you dont know how much or what you are putting into yer body? just askin

no consistency all i know is that im taking 3 cc's of EQ a week, and im not injeciting myself, my friend is doing it for me, i didnt really look at the bottle il go look at it

all i see on the bottle is 10ml, the rest is in spanish i dunt see nething that says mg

[Consistency]

alright bro atleast you are gonna do PCT. If you search you will realizw how important that is. Look what i wrote about it up top.

And 1cc equals a certain amount of milligrams, it could be 50mg or up to around 250mg. just look on the bottle and it should say.

[GearAholic]

bro, u dunno how many mg's ur taking....what does the bottle say on it ??? btw when i was around your age i went from 150lbs-230lbs natural

[k_dogg]

bro, u dunno how many mg's ur taking....what does the bottle say on it ??? btw when i was around your age i went from 150lbs-230lbs natural

i know this blokes type. i have really good mates who got mixed in the wrong crowd at the gym or work or whatever and jumped straight in thinking well if its good for them....
i have done about 6 months research (wich is probably not much by most standards) on aas, what it will do to me, what is the best choice for my goals etc.

i now sit back and ask these guys... "well how much did you take'? and they are like 'yeah i used to take like 6 mils or test' and i would be like "mills shmills how much of the drug did you take'? they just didnt get me... they didnt even know what i meant when i said mg/ml. just blank faces.
some of the sources i have are pathetic. they dont know what the stuff is they are selling, they dont know what i mean by concentration. when i say so what is it? they are like 'yeah man its good **** youll gain like 10-20kg's on this ****."
i have to tell em to **** off or show me a bottle. at wich point i make my own mind up.
i think there are way to many people out there sticking things in themselves that have no idea. a mate of mine wanted some stuff and he came over and showed me his 'test' that he got. it was a film cannister with the lid taped on with strapping tape filled with oil. i was like 'are you bloody serious dude'! he said he had taken a shot in the thigh and his leg was twitching and it hurt like hell. i made him throw the ****. thats just unsanitary as hell. there are a lot of uneducated users out there. and i think ld matey navey seal is one of them

[DARKSEID]

i know this blokes type. i have really good mates who got mixed in the wrong crowd at the gym or work or whatever and jumped straight in thinking well if its good for them....
i have done about 6 months research (wich is probably not much by most standards) on aas, what it will do to me, what is the best choice for my goals etc.

i now sit back and ask these guys... "well how much did you take'? and they are like 'yeah i used to take like 6 mils or test' and i would be like "mills shmills how much of the drug did you take'? they just didnt get me... they didnt even know what i meant when i said mg/ml. just blank faces.
some of the sources i have are pathetic. they dont know what the stuff is they are selling, they dont know what i mean by concentration. when i say so what is it? they are like 'yeah man its good **** youll gain like 10-20kg's on this ****."
i have to tell em to **** off or show me a bottle. at wich point i make my own mind up.
i think there are way to many people out there sticking things in themselves that have no idea. a mate of mine wanted some stuff and he came over and showed me his 'test' that he got. it was a film cannister with the lid taped on with strapping tape filled with oil. i was like 'are you bloody serious dude'! he said he had taken a shot in the thigh and his leg was twitching and it hurt like hell. i made him throw the ****. thats just unsanitary as hell. there are a lot of uneducated users out there. and i think ld matey navey seal is one of them

uneducated is being alittle too nice

[Swellin]

The thing that really sucks about this... we are asked for advice....we give it...it becomes an argument. While trying to help, we cause the guy to become defensive...defending his position and his intelligence. Unfortunately, this is not healthy.

Navy, you are certainly not the first to come here with this type of situation. Every other person in your shoes gets told pretty much the same thing. Do they listen....I doubt it. When told that you are wrong, and you are doing something stupid...you simply get defensive...leave...and continue your current direction. It is not healthy for you. Regardless of your friends' supposed knowledge and success, this is not a good move.

Take a little time and do some research on here. Go to the educational threads, and you will be able to see many of the arguments already played out.

By making early mistakes, individuals make it tougher on the rest of us. By doing something that is not so smart, they reinforce the stigma associated with AAS use. Please do some research...here on this site, then make up your mind as to what is right.

In a word....STOP! It would be best for you and for the rest of us, too.

[GearAholic]

so have you figured out how many mgs ur actuall taking in a week yet???, btw also what exactley does your P.C.T look like, also i would like to add if it was me i would not be running eq by itself

[GearAholic]

http://anabolicreview.com/vbulletin/...light=eq+cycle

[navyseal18]

http://anabolicreview.com/vbulletin/...light=eq+cycle

yea i was just looking at that 5 min ago

[GearAholic]

yes many guys will tell u to run test with eq because just like deca eq will **ck up your libido if i am spelling that right aka(sex drive) eq will shut down your natural test. production and if u use some test with eq it will help your body since it is not producing anymore test from what i have read

[navyseal18]

shouldnt you run test with EQ? you dont know anything about gear and you shouldnt be taking anything, you really have no idea what you are doing, i would never trust my friend to do it for me, just because i want to know exactly whats going on with my body. bro you are blowing it big

what do you mean u would never trust ur friend to do it for you? and i was gonna do test and eq, but i was talkin to my friend who has been goin natural for bout 3 years now and researched everything, he said i should just do a cycle of just EQ

[SUPERWIMP]

what do you mean u would never trust ur friend to do it for you? and i was gonna do test and eq, but i was talkin to my friend who has been goin natural for bout 3 years now and researched everything, he said i should just do a cycle of just EQ

should follow his path he seems to have it right

[navyseal18]

should follow his path he seems to have it right

huh?

[SUPERWIMP]

huh?

stay natural, why is he suggesting it when he doesn't do it ??

[SUPERWIMP]

stay natural, why is he suggesting it when he doesn't do it ??

and is the only purpose to get strong for the navy or you just have strength issues in general

[pumped99]

Navy, just so you know you have permanently damaged your body. You will no longer reach your genetic potential because you started AAS too early. I am 19 and I know it is too early for me. Stop while you can bro, you are just hurting yourself.