M1t FAQ

[Bryan2]

I would bump up the 1 test cyp after the m1t is finished I am personally doing 600mg of it ew and fell I should bump it up to 800. Plus I would rethink the use of winny with out a break because that is 11 straight weeks on a methyl man that is just asking for problems bro. Throw in like 1.2 grams of N.A.C everyday if you do decide to do it and I would check your liver values at like week 6 or 7 just to make sure. Or search around for either some masteron which is pretty imposible to get or primo (best bet is to go with the vet grade stuff I think QV makes some now) because you can achieve the same effect without the liver risk. If you know how to homebrew you could even make some 5aa cyp.

[nsa]

Yeah, i've been thinking about that winstrol, im probably going to just use it for the last week or two instead. Im doing that whole cycle, minus the m1t and winny, until mid december.

How long into the cycle are you? What do you think of the results from 1-test cyp?

[nsa]

I have access to a test prop/test phenylprop/masteron mix for a very reasonable price...

[nsa]

BTW, aside of the days of discomfort from the prop, i love prop/phenylprop. Kicked in within 2 days of first injection and gave me the best pump i've ever had in the gym.

[DustinLati]

Well, i just realized that New Years is going to happen during my PCT cycle, and you know what that means....

I was wondering if its ok to drink during PCT? (I know its off limits during the m1t cycle, but i only drink about once every month or two as it is...and im a college student haha)

[DustinLati]

also, this may not even be a logical question, but do PH's/steroids in anyway affect penis size (make it smaller) because i know it affects your nuts to some degree, so i just want to be sure.

[bda55]

Hi, I've been reading and researching quite a bit yet about PHs, but one thing I can't find clear information on is on how much and how long exactly to do PCT after cycles of different lengths and with different doses.
It's pretty obvious you'll need more PCT after a cycle of 20mg ED of M1T for 4 weeks than for 10mg for 3 weeks, I'm just wondering how much exactly.

According to the M1T faq it says for 4 weeks 10mg M1T ED -> 3 weeks nolva (40-40-20) and Clomid

I'm wondering what the use is of using 2 SERMS during PCT, I've read in different articles it's redundant. Anyone care to explain?

Say I'd only use Nolva for PCT (and milk thistle in case of M1T), how much and how long would u need for:

3 weeks 10mg M1T
4 weeks 10mg M1T (according to faq 40-40-20)
4 weeks 15mg M1T

4 weeks S1+ with 10 sprays ED (2 bottles)
6 weeks S1+ with 10 sprays ED (3 bottles)

Thx

[nsa]

also, this may not even be a logical question, but do PH's/steroids in anyway affect penis size (make it smaller) because i know it affects your nuts to some degree, so i just want to be sure.

If ph/ps effect your penis size it would make it bigger because it is a muscle and gets engorged with blood during an erection. Your testes do shrink when your hpta is shut down.

[nsa]

Hi, I've been reading and researching quite a bit yet about PHs, but one thing I can't find clear information on is on how much and how long exactly to do PCT after cycles of different lengths and with different doses.
It's pretty obvious you'll need more PCT after a cycle of 20mg ED of M1T for 4 weeks than for 10mg for 3 weeks, I'm just wondering how much exactly.

According to the M1T faq it says for 4 weeks 10mg M1T ED -> 3 weeks nolva (40-40-20) and Clomid

I'm wondering what the use is of using 2 SERMS during PCT, I've read in different articles it's redundant. Anyone care to explain?

Say I'd only use Nolva for PCT (and milk thistle in case of M1T), how much and how long would u need for:

3 weeks 10mg M1T
4 weeks 10mg M1T (according to faq 40-40-20)
4 weeks 15mg M1T

4 weeks S1+ with 10 sprays ED (2 bottles)
6 weeks S1+ with 10 sprays ED (3 bottles)

Thx

That cycle is not set up well at all, it is way too long. M1t and s1+ start to lose there effectiveness in the 4th week and 6th week respectively. And it doesn't say to use nolvadex for 3 weeks, it says to use nolvadex for 4 weeks and clomid for 3 weeks. Clomid is used to increase your LH and FSH through negative feedback, which in turn increases your endogeneous testosterone production, thus restoring your hpta. Nolvadex is used to inhibit the effects of estrogen build from your cycle and to try and keep cortisol levels lower, it also slightly increases your production of endogeneous test.

[bulldawg_28]

also, this may not even be a logical question, but do PH's/steroids in anyway affect penis size (make it smaller) because i know it affects your nuts to some degree, so i just want to be sure.

No, ph/AS won't make your penis smaller. If they did I dont think anyone would use them.

[DustinLati]

No, ph/AS won't make your penis smaller. If they did I dont think anyone would use them.

well, i had to ask, because ive seen porns that had bodybuilders in them (well, not necesarilly BBers, but definatly guys who obviosuly used PHs/AS for personal use) and they were pretty pathetic in that department....figured the PH/AS might have something to do with it.

Just to be sure...nobody who has used m1t has had any negative side effects in that department? right?

[bulldawg_28]

well, i had to ask, because ive seen porns that had bodybuilders in them (well, not necesarilly BBers, but definatly guys who obviosuly used PHs/AS for personal use) and they were pretty pathetic in that department....figured the PH/AS might have something to do with it.

Just to be sure...nobody who has used m1t has had any negative side effects in that department? right?

The only thing I have heard is nut shrinkage in that department.

[Bryan2]

Yeah, i've been thinking about that winstrol, im probably going to just use it for the last week or two instead. Im doing that whole cycle, minus the m1t and winny, until mid december.

How long into the cycle are you? What do you think of the results from 1-test cyp?

I just started week 4 so the 1 test cyp is kicking in this week. I frontloaded with M1T and so far i am up 10 pounds but only 6 is lbm which sucks. I got sick and my diet and training sucked and I gained 4 pounds of fat last week. But All the weight gain so far i would atribute to the m1t. Still not sure wether im gonna go this whole week out or not with the m1t. Anyway i do have body composition changes.

Side note GET THE MASTERON MIX!!! **** I wish i had access to that stuff its such a clean steroid! good good results from it it will harden you up nicely and then you dont even have to run the winny.

[bda55]

I meant those cycles as indepent ones tho, not all consecutively like in the on/off/on/... way. It was just to have an idea of what doses/duration of PCT u need for these different cycles. And thx for clearing up the use of both Nolva/Clomid

That cycle is not set up well at all, it is way too long. M1t and s1+ start to lose there effectiveness in the 4th week and 6th week respectively. And it doesn't say to use nolvadex for 3 weeks, it says to use nolvadex for 4 weeks and clomid for 3 weeks. Clomid is used to increase your LH and FSH through negative feedback, which in turn increases your endogeneous testosterone production, thus restoring your hpta. Nolvadex is used to inhibit the effects of estrogen build from your cycle and to try and keep cortisol levels lower, it also slightly increases your production of endogeneous test.

[YoungGuns20]

NSA or anyone with an opinion, I am in my 2nd week of PCT, Clomid, Nolva, Creatine, and getting ready for Clen, I ordered and was kinda scared to use it with school going on, I dont want to get the sideeffects espically with a lot to do at school. But now my question is, what supplements can I take to keep building while I wait to run another cycle?

[DevilsDeity]

sideeffects from what?
the clen?

[nsa]

Young, Clen doesn't really have sides other than being jittery.

Bryan, i think i will get the 100 mg prop/ 100 mg masteron per ml - 20 ml/vial, its $140 a vial.

[Bryan2]

You will be very pleased masteron acts just like winny and can be run for a lot longer it acts quickly provides strength and makes ALMOST ALL of the gains you make on cycle very easily maintainable!

[nsa]

So its more like primo than winny???

[Bryan2]

well primo, winny and masteron are all dht derivitives. They are just methylated at different postions for slightly diferent effects. primo for it far end of the scale at being mild and winny being methylated at the 17th position for all of the compound to enter the body at once and be strong. Now masteron is a little stronger then primo and works slightly differently but along the same lines.

[nsa]

Bump...

[dizzak]

i know the liver toxicity risks with stacking 2 orals so please dont rag me on that, but i was wondering would it be effective to stack m1t with anavar? i just had some onhand and thought i would throw it out there. thanks.

[Bryan2]

Probably wouldnt notice to much from the anavar at all the m1t is too powerful and will over trump the anavars effects. The anavar will still do its thing but you wont be able to notice anything from it physically!

Some orals are ok to stack in my opinion but NEVER anything with M1T that **** is poison in a bottle with the side effect of muscle growth. Anyone take blood tests after a cycle? Only reason people take it is because it even topped all of the hype with results.

[nsa]

I would not stack anything with drol, m1t or methyl-d. Those are among the most hepatoxic of the orals that i know of. Things that wouldn't be too bad to stack together are things like winstrol and var or other compounds that are not that harsh on the liver.

[dizzak]

maybe i should think of running the var during pct?

[nsa]

maybe i should think of running the var during pct?

Var during pct? Bridges don't work if they are aas based. Use creatine or something that doesn't suppress your hpta at all...

[DustinLati]

well im starting my stack tomorrow, so just to get a few things straight.
1. I take 5mg of m1t in the morining with 200mg of 4ad, and then the same dose 12 hours later, correct?

2. Should i take each dose with a meal or on a empty stomach?

Sorry if the questions have already been answered, ive read the whole 13 pages but cant remember everything

[DustinLati]

well im starting my stack tomorrow, so just to get a few things straight.
1. I take 5mg of m1t in the morining with 200mg of 4ad, and then the same dose 12 hours later, correct?

2. Should i take each dose with a meal or on a empty stomach?

Sorry if the questions have already been answered, ive read the whole 13 pages but cant remember everything

[nsa]

1. Correct.
2. With a meal is best.

[bda55]

What do you do when you're only taking 5mg of M1T and 200mg 4AD for the first few days of a cycle to start out safely? That would be 5 sprays and only 1 pill, say you would take this for the first few days, should you split those up too, and how exactly?

[Soldier of Misfortune]

Why not go w/ 10mg? It wont do much of anything at such a low dose.

[nsa]

IMO there is no need to work your way up to the desired dose, its not like clen or anything like that. M1t is effective at 10 mg ED and 4-ad is effective around 200-600 mg ED transdermally. I don't advocate going lower than 10 mg ED of M1t or going over 10 mg of M1t. I don't think either doesn't much more by way of hepatoxicity or gains than 10 mg's...

[Bryan2]

Hey Nsa update on my 1 test cyp useage

Its the start of week 6 and they cyps are kicking in full force last week is when they peaked for me and this week is even better. I think (at least hope) that the cyps will give me around a 2 pound gain a week. It does work slower than M1T but no hepatoxicity to speak of. And Im not feeling fully on cycle with 1 test i think it counters some of that on feeling you get with test.

[nsa]

What are the doses your running at this point? I remember you saying you were consistently increasing the doses.

[Bryan2]

im at 800mgs 1 test a week and 2100mgs of 4ad cyp.

I like the 1 test at this doseage a lot better than just 600mgs.

No lethargy at all either with the 1 test cyp.

[nsa]

Thats alot of sauce to put in you...

[Bryan2]

Yeah im only using 4 different spots also.

3 ccs in each thigh
3 ccs one soulder (alternate each work)
2ccs other shoulder

[jkarcs055]

wat do u guys think of gaspari nutricion. i Just ended my first week of thier m1t. And just had a few quesitons about thier novedex and clomex and how to use both. NAd if they are the same as as clomid and nolvadex

[bulldawg_28]

wat do u guys think of gaspari nutricion. i Just ended my first week of thier m1t. And just had a few quesitons about thier novedex and clomex and how to use both. NAd if they are the same as as clomid and nolvadex

They aren't the same bro. They wont restore your hpta as well as clomid and nolvadex will.

[nsa]

They immitate nolvadex and clomid, but don't work nearly as well.

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