I am planning to run a 2 weeks 10mg M1T ED and Methyl 4AD.
1. What do you think about 2 weeks cycle?
2. How about a PCT for a 2 weeks cycle? Is it really necessary?
I have 8% BF, 158lb, 1.80m, 3 years training, 23 years old.
I am planning to run a 2 weeks 10mg M1T ED and Methyl 4AD.
1. What do you think about 2 weeks cycle?
2. How about a PCT for a 2 weeks cycle? Is it really necessary?
I have 8% BF, 158lb, 1.80m, 3 years training, 23 years old.
2 weeks cycles are too short IMO to see good results, your HPTA is pretty much shutdown after day 4 but the m1t doesn't really kick in fully until around day 7-8, so your only getting about a full week of the experience with alot of the sides. And yes pct would be necessary for 2 weeks. Try running 2 weeks without pct and you will regret it for sure. Just run it for 4 weeks and use transdermal 4-ad. For best results run the sample cycle in the first post of this thread. It has been tested and modified based on the results. Alot of people have good results from that cycle.
Ive looked here for clomid/novladex and I typed it in the search and got no results. Is there something else I should search on??Originally Posted by nsa
Thanks,
Max
clomid:Originally Posted by max2extreme
http://www.anabolicreview-research.c...products_id=41
nolva:
http://www.anabolicreview-research.c...products_id=43
nsa, would you mind sending me a pm of where you get clomid and nolva from at these prices? I got my m1t and 4ad powder which I'm going to throw in the penetrate carrier when I get all my supplies together for your sample cycle.Originally Posted by nsa
For those interested, I'm 22years old at 204lbs 14%bf and have been lifting for 4 years. I'm also a long time lurker of this forum and a first time poster.
Im having PCT problems after 4weeks on a fairly mild m1t+4ad stack
[full details of my gains can now be found in my diary thread]
has anyone else experienced what I have described here with this pct? Im extremely moody miserable/irritable/lethargic, and have absolutely ZERO "just stay the hell away from me" libido. [not even morning wood!]
needs to be resolved has started causing problems, my balls returned in style on the first day of PCT, they look good, but sure aint doing much, so why is the rest of mne quite so destroyed? =].
im about 9 days into my pct.
PCT:
Weeks 5-8: 40 mg ED of Nolvadex for the first two weeks, Then down to 20 mg ED of Nolvadex
Weeks 5-8: Clomid Therapy, 300 mg of clomid first day, 100 mg of clomid next 10 days, 50 mg of clomid for final 10 days of clomid
is it worth necking the 6oxo i also have here to see if that brings me back to life? (along with/not instead of the chlomid/nolva)
It should take the entire pct your balls are coming back thats a good sign but if you want to help your libido get some tribulus and dose at 5grams ed
Ive heard that 1-2 grams of longjack powder is even stronger for libido so try stacking.
cheers, forgot to add already that im using tribulus and zma with them already.. still nada
quick question on the stack ... i know taking any ECA stack is not advised due to the blood pressure issues, however how about a cup of coffee or two in the morning? black of course but i suppose this is okay? i need a jolt of black java to get me in the morning.
whats the trib doseage?
try upping it or adding longjack
Just finished my 3rd 4-week cycle...only gained 14 lbs this time & a whole lotta strength... I chalk a lot of that up to a much more consistent diet this time. But the problem is my shirts are getting really tight through the traps/shoulders/arms...
Doesn't sound like much of a problem to me...Originally Posted by flexin-rph
What were your stats before you touched the compounds and now?
I'll have to get my wife to do measurements tomorrow, but body weight went from 198 lbs to 212 lbs & gained 25 lbs on the bench press & 40 lbs on the deadlift. I would estimate approx 12-14% bodyfat ( I love the offseason). Arm size somewhere in the neighborhood of 17-1/2", 33" waist, & 28" thighs.
I thought you said it was your third cycle of it? What were your original stats (before any cycles) compared to now?
My first cycle was back in June 2004. I weighed in at 191 lbs & 16-1/4" arms. I don't feel like I made any progress (not much anyway) in my 2nd cycle in September/October. This cycle (my 3rd) really rocked!
nsa ... coffee is harmless when taking m1t?
Generally harmless, unless you have blood pressure issues.
I'm just finishing my 3rd cycle of M1T this time only M1T@20mg ed for 30 days, and gained about 8lbs on 3rd week...but I havent been eating right nor enough nor drinking enough water so thats the reason for the small increase....the first time I gained 20lbs and kept abuot 15!
bump
Goes to show that without the proper building blocks of nutrition, you can take all the hormones you want and you won't gain nearly as much as you could have with proper nutrition.Originally Posted by Darkness
Sup Nsa,
Which company makes the best m1t....CAn you please post the name of it....I cant figure out which one to get theres a ton out there with different prices....
They are all the same thing, either it is methyl-1-test or not. Underground Labs manufacturers the best m1t product for the price IMO.
there all out of the 9.99 ones so i might go ahead with the bigger bottles...
How many pills is an avf m1t cycle?
On average, 60 5mg M1T pills per cycle. This is if you plan on running 10 mgs/day.
So 4 weeks straight on??
some say 2 on 2 off?
Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 1 tablet
Servings per container: 60
Amount Per Serving
Methyl 1-Testosterone 10.5mg
17alpha methyl-17beta-hydroxy-andros (1-ene-3-one)
5-Androstenediol 50mg
(5-Androstene 3beta, 17beta diol)
20 Beta Hydroxyecdysone 50mg
Proprietary Amplifier Blend 100mg
Bergamottin, Bupleurum, Hoelen
Suggested Use:
Take one tablet in the morning and a second tablet after lunch. Do not exceed 2 tablets during a 24 hour period. Cycle 4 weeks on, 2 weeks off for a total of 2 bottles.
this already has 10,5 mg of m1t in it should i just take 1 tab a day?????
how long will one bottle of 4derm last will it finish a 4 week cycle of m1t at 400mg/day. How many sprays is 400mg?
there are thirty(30) 200mg servings per bottle of 4derm
5 spays= 200mg so 10 spays = 400mg
so 1 bottle @ 400mg ED will last 15 days.
thanks manOriginally Posted by THA GONZ
I have everything for my cycle. m-1t and legal gear 4ad derm. milk thissle and clomid and novla should be in monday. Queston though i plan on taking 4 pumps a day do i need to take a small dose of novla during the cycle. Such as 10-20 mg.
whered you get clom and nolva im having trouble obtaining a source or anything along those lines
Anabolic Review-Research.com banner at top of the website.
yea i prefer tabs they only sell liquid not sure how to use it correctly
measure it out with a ml dropper and take it or add it to a drink.
Use a syringe...
I prefer tabs as opposed to liquid mainly because if anyone in my house finds it big big trouble
So are you living at home? What's their to worry about? Just tell them for the clomid "its a natural test booster"...
and then for the nolvadex tell them "it helps get rid of excess water in fat cell's and naturaly boosts test" even though me and you know that normaly main reason for nolva in the anti e is to block or get rid of a recent case of gyno or restoring your test production... Trust me I've usein those excuses on my gf without having to get into a bit of detail
Last edited by unclemoney; 01-09-2005 at 12:43 AM.
I've used those excuses on my parents and it worked... But seriously you won't find a place to purchase tabs over the net, not legally at least. These compounds are illegal in pill form. You have to deal with the labs, just switch the bottles or take the labels off. Your parents are not going to freak out about something that looks like a travel sized bottle of shampoo.
I have a few questions, I've never done this product and I am going to do it shortly. All those products you listed....hawhtorne, nolvadex, clomid therapy, etc..Are they all necessary? They added up to a lot of money, but if it is what I need then I can get it. For the cycle, how many weeks do I take the actual m-1t. I got the pill form, so. If a 17 yr older were to take this, would it be ok? I think he's done growing.
Do i take the pills everyday, or once a week?
yes they are all neccessary or you won't have a liver or sex drive after your done. if you can't afford everything for the whole cycle, you don't need to do it cause all you're going to do is hurt yourself and waste your money.
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