How did Arnold cope w/ Dbol only?

[BG]

Tell you what, I took a D-bol only cycle, no pct (didnt know about AR then) and my sex drive never came back fully, not even close. Time for TRT.

[Deezuhl]

Tell you what, I took a D-bol only cycle, no pct (didnt know about AR then) and my sex drive never came back fully, not even close. Time for TRT.

really never came back?? no other attributes to consider??

[Ejuicer]

i understand that but i've never read anything that says wot he took. even in pumping iron they dont talk about steroids.

Actually he clearly mentions it...

[AG5678]

I don't think this has been brought up but i've been reading his new book that came out and in fact Arnold first used AAS at the age of 15.

AG5678

[Deezuhl]

I don't think this has been brought up but i've been reading his new book that came out and in fact Arnold first used AAS at the age of 15.

AG5678

yeah and with that said everyone wants to throw being too young to start aas out the window cause one freak of nature..

[BigRandy]

I don't think this has been brought up but i've been reading his new book that came out and in fact Arnold first used AAS at the age of 15.

AG5678

which book?

[WelshWarrior]

Bump - which book?

[mr.biceps58]

Anyone who doesnt believe Arnold was using more than d-bol-primo is very nieve. Arnold was notorious for throwing out bogus claims. He took all kings of crap and he took it year round.

Come on guys you know better. Don't you?????

[Dalton5]

Test has been around for a very long time. Suspension was used as early as world war II by nazi's for aggression.

Also used to bring back POW's in WWII

[topvega]

i think it's alot easier to own up to swallowing a couple pills then it is to say i shot sh!t into my body... we all know it is no big deal, but it's very taboo to everyone else outside of bodybuilding... it's like u get lumped into the " well he's a needle using junky" thing...

[TRICK]

That much gain in that amount of time is possible, not with everyone but it is possible. When you take steroids, especially for your first time some ppl get very confident and try harder in their lifting, so your not actually gaining that much, it's a mind over matter thing.

thats a very good point.

[david_banner]

http://hjem.get2net.dk/JamesBond/www...ndsteroids.htm

[powerliftmike]

So you think you can't gain with dbol only? Try it then!

[MMA]

if anrnie took AS, why is he so against it now?

because first and foremost, Arnie is a winner. in bodybuilding, winning meant taking drugs. in politics, winning means saying you hate drugs. thats the beginning and the end of the story.

[SensP]

In politics, winning means pleasing your constituents. With his current 34% approval ratings it's obvious Arnie is a much better bodybuilder than he is a politician.

[Jsik98]

What's amazing to me is most of those oldtimers didn't know about or do PCT. Yet, they are all fine. Go figure!

MJ

That's what I'm I'm sayin! Apparently they did have test suspension back then, so, okay, they didn't do dbol only cycles. But still, dbol and test and no anti-e's? NO WAY! And no clomid or nolvadex for pct? NO WAY!! I'd have titties bigger than Dolly!!

[Jsik98]

because first and foremost, Arnie is a winner. in bodybuilding, winning meant taking drugs. in politics, winning means saying you hate drugs. thats the beginning and the end of the story.

Well said.

[dirtyvegas]

test was around before d-bol was, atleast that what ive been told and read in a few places here in the forums.

He has said in an interview that he uses steroids ive seen him say it on a interview with some blone chick interviewing him. it was in the early 70'sim sure.

also he says in that interview that its under doctors supervision and it only makes up about 5% of his overall mass and that its totally all hard work and not the steroids.

franco his gym buddy, wrote a book and people say theres a cycle in there that says 15 mg of dbol ED for 8 weeks is a perfect cycle but doesnt mention any other compounds.

they mentioned they took steroids to the public in the early days(but never what compounds) because it wasnt illegall nor did people look at it negativly the way peeps do today.

Never really saying anything about what compounds they took, today they realize they cant cover up there lies and so they just tell everyone they took just an ORAL called dianabol and nothing else. But they did do other compounds (injectibles) they just cannot say they injected, cause there all really high society people now and doctors and govenors or successfull business owners and they cannnot discredit themselves.

does that make sense..hope so..lol that is the way i see it anyway.

~dv~

[Jsik98]

You have no idea what he ran and what he didn't, people speculate all the time but only he and his best friends know for sure. I've seen posts like this, with him using primo and d-bol, all we know is he used gear, because he said so. Afetr that is all a guessing game

JohnnyB

True, except I know for sure that dbol was one of the drugs he took b/c I saw an interview where he said it was very common for him and other bodybuilders to discuss how many dianabols they took per day. I thought I saw that on the extras in Pumping Iron but I looked for that scene and couldn't find it, so I must've seen it somewhere else. Either way, I clearly remember that he said that, so I figured they did dbol only cycles........However, a few people told me that test suspension was available back then as well , so according to that info they probably did dbl and test suspension cycles. But in the end you are correct, no one knows what really went on except for Arnold and a few of his closest friends. I bet not even the guys in Pumping Iron knew what he was taking, except for Franco.

[Jsik98]

i think it's alot easier to own up to swallowing a couple pills then it is to say i shot sh!t into my body... we all know it is no big deal, but it's very taboo to everyone else outside of bodybuilding... it's like u get lumped into the " well he's a needle using junky" thing...

Very good point

[Jsik98]

Never really saying anything about what compounds they took, today they realize they cant cover up there lies and so they just tell everyone they took just an ORAL called dianabol and nothing else. But they did do other compounds (injectibles) they just cannot say they injected, cause there all really high society people now and doctors and govenors or successfull business owners and they cannnot discredit themselves.

~dv~

Similar to what Dirtyvegas said and I think you guys are right on the money.

[Rider]

Testo,Tbol.Anavar,Primo.Proviron,Anapolon and some other weird but pretty good stuff like Steranabol,Furazabol,Parabolan,Methenolone Acetate etc were already available back in their days (1978) So yea they had a good selection lol...

[Jsik98]

Testo,Tbol.Anavar,Primo.Proviron,Anapolon and some other weird but pretty good stuff like Steranabol,Furazabol,Parabolan,Methenolone Acetate etc were already available back in their days (1978) So yea they had a good selection lol...

Would you care to share your reference? I could def see that more than test and dbol was around by Pumping Iron days, but what about when Arnold was a young buck just starting? I guess in the late 60's early 70's? Do you have any info on that? And it would def be cool to let us know where you read that!

[big an rich]

mr extreme your full of shit!
35lbs gain on the bench in what....4days????
tsss i hate when people try to be the coolest by lying!

[Rider]

Would you care to share your reference? I could def see that more than test and dbol was around by Pumping Iron days, but what about when Arnold was a young buck just starting? I guess in the late 60's early 70's? Do you have any info on that? And it would def be cool to let us know where you read that!

Jsik98 it is well known that the drugs I mentioned are in circulation from the 50's ..Proviron introduced at the 50's,Anavar since 1964,Anapolon since 1960 (Nilevar and Oranabol are also drugs since the 60's).Do some research on the net and u will find out...U have to be fool at least if u believe that they had Primo Dianabol only!

[big_C]

I'm thinking before Pumping Iron b/c by then I think test was already in the picture. Anyone know if test was already on the scene by 78? Anyway, I agree with you about how eating that many calories will keep you growing whether on dbol or not, but he never looks bloated or has a gut in any of his pictures. Unless maybe he never got photographed until he was in contest shape. That's definetely a possibility. However, answer me this, if doing a dbol only cycle is such a big no no, then how did this guy get to where he was, let's say at only 21, by doing dbol only cycles?

Was Test "on the scene in '78?" You must be young, does 78' sound like anceint history to you?? LOL!! Just fu#$ing with ya!! OF COURSE IT WAS!!
In Europe during the 1940's injectable testosterone was used in the German armed forces to increase aggressiveness and stamina, and also in the recovery of undernourished prisoners of war. This was nothing else but crystalline testosterone mixed with water. Russian weightlifters began experimenting with this testosterone compound during the late 1940's and broke one world record after another. Since, at the time, pure testosterone without additional esters was used, the substance remained in the body for only a few hours requiring daily injections, and often several per day By first injecting the testosterone molecules with an ester, such as for example isobutyrate (in Agovirin), it was possible to prolong the duration of effect up to about one week. And Yes Arnold has already said in an interveiw about ten years ago that he has used about every AS known, he also said he attributes his massive body to the '"Two D'S" meaning Deca and D-Bol, and Test was on the menu too, you have to remember when he was in competing As was a leagal substance.

[big_C]

http://hjem.get2net.dk/JamesBond/www...ndsteroids.htm

BUMP!!

[Rider]

Was Test "on the scene in '78?" You must be young, does 78' sound like anceint history to you?? LOL!! Just fu#$ing with ya!! OF COURSE IT WAS!!
In Europe during the 1940's injectable testosterone was used in the German armed forces to increase aggressiveness and stamina, and also in the recovery of undernourished prisoners of war. This was nothing else but crystalline testosterone mixed with water. Russian weightlifters began experimenting with this testosterone compound during the late 1940's and broke one world record after another. Since, at the time, pure testosterone without additional esters was used, the substance remained in the body for only a few hours requiring daily injections, and often several per day By first injecting the testosterone molecules with an ester, such as for example isobutyrate (in Agovirin), it was possible to prolong the duration of effect up to about one week. And Yes Arnold has already said in an interveiw about ten years ago that he has used about every AS known, he also said he attributes his massive body to the '"Two D'S" meaning Deca and D-Bol, and Test was on the menu too, you have to remember when he was in competing As was a leagal substance.

Well said!

[Jsik98]

Jsik98 it is well known that the drugs I mentioned are in circulation from the 50's ..Proviron introduced at the 50's,Anavar since 1964,Anapolon since 1960 (Nilevar and Oranabol are also drugs since the 60's).Do some research on the net and u will find out...U have to be fool at least if u believe that they had Primo Dianabol only!

I wouldn't call myself a fool, but lacking knowledge....sure! That's why I started this thread! Thanks for the feedback.

[Jsik98]

NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN' ABOUT RIDER, YOU'RE THE MAN!!
That is an excellent answer, thank you.

[Rider]

NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN' ABOUT RIDER, YOU'RE THE MAN!!
That is an excellent answer, thank you.

anytime

[Jayrobz]

I'm not certain if arnold ran test or not, no one ever will.. But what I do know is that arnold was a huge fan of primo! If you know anything about primo it is ran at very high dosages as it needs to be ran that way. 600-900mgs a week was what arnold used, before shows he MAY have used more, like I said we don't know. As for the Dbol, "dbol is a breakfast for champions" - arnold.. so I say no more. There were probably other stuff they used back in the 70's but as I've already stated, we will never know!

[2iron]

Digging deep early in the am!

[Machdiesel]

Tell you what, I took a D-bol only cycle, no pct (didnt know about AR then) and my sex drive never came back fully, not even close. Time for TRT.

There's no difference in shutdown if you took test. You say it never came back, how would of having test during this cycle changed tnat ?

[Red Bastard]

I'm not certain if arnold ran test or not, no one ever will.. But what I do know is that arnold was a huge fan of primo! If you know anything about primo it is ran at very high dosages as it needs to be ran that way. 600-900mgs a week was what arnold used, before shows he MAY have used more, like I said we don't know. As for the Dbol, "dbol is a breakfast for champions" - arnold.. so I say no more. There were probably other stuff they used back in the 70's but as I've already stated, we will never know!

Lol! Typical first post, bringing a 9 year old thread, back from the dead!!

Interesting read though...

[GGot FFina?]

I think the real answer to this question is, genetics and we really dont know what he really took.

[lovbyts]

Is there some kind of contest for newbies to see who can post a reply to the oldest random thread?