Most Common Beginners Cycles - Look here..

[MickeyKnox]

Mick, do you have a preference between test E or C?
Ill be running dbol wks 1-4 30mg pre workout.

Should the dbol be taken monday-sunday or mon-fri?

I have no preference between the two. I believe there's only one atom that separates the two which creates a longer ester (18 days) with Cypionate compared to Enanthate (14 days).

Dbol has a short half life (6 hours) so i try to time it a few hours before my workouts. But for me the jury is still out whether or not to include it on days off. Convincing arguments, as well as personal experiences, have been made for both sides. Your call.

[bigsiv]

Bumpety bump........

[HereinDC]

What if I my person doesn't have Arimidex? What can I use instead?

[MickeyKnox]

Liquidex (Arimidex) or Stane (Aromasin) from site sponsor above. AR-R.com

[mikey hulk]

Good info

[Rambler]

If I wanted to start a beginners cycle with the oral, can I also include deca or not?

[bigsiv]

If I wanted to start a beginners cycle with the oral, can I also include deca or not?

No bud, personally I think the oral shouldn't be added but Mickey has put that up there because people normally tend to do orals before they inject. First cycles should be test only so you can see how your body reacts. Also if you make good gains with test then use it again. Extra compounds should be brought in when the basics have been exhausted or there is a particular goal in mind. Deca is a harsh compound stay away for now.

[Rambler]

No bud, personally I think the oral shouldn't be added but Mickey has put that up there because people normally tend to do orals before they inject. First cycles should be test only so you can see how your body reacts. Also if you make good gains with test then use it again. Extra compounds should be brought in when the basics have been exhausted or there is a particular goal in mind. Deca is a harsh compound stay away for now.

Cheers siv,

[OdinsOtherSon]

Bump

[OdinsOtherSon]

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[sadiq7777]

nice work guys..

[MickeyKnox]

Ttt.

[ma_fighter]

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[OdinsOtherSon]

to the top

[MickeyKnox]

Up for the late nighters and new guys.

[Aus]

Amazing mate

[Soar]

Back on up there

[ElDude]

Thanks for the info bro. I wanted to add Tren to my first cycle along with Test E and Winny. After reading this post however I feel like I should leave the Tren out to see how I react to Test E and Winny. Should I do 4 weeks of Winny at the start? Or end my cycle with it? Also, since Test E is a long acting AAS why do you recommend pinning EOD? Do people ever just pin Test E once per week?

[Scottyb13]

Are you wanting to gain or cut? What are your stats? Height weigh age bf% workout history, and most important how is your diet and cal intake per day?!?!?!

[ElDude]

Are you wanting to gain or cut? What are your stats? Height weigh age bf% workout history, and most important how is your diet and cal intake per day?!?!?!

I am definitely looking to cut. I am 26. Right now I am 6'0, 210 with 16% bf, someone on here said more bf more sides with AAS. Should I cut more bf before a cycle? Can be difficult because cardio can be a pain in the ass due to injury.

Been lifting for a good 6 years, however I was in a motorcycle accident 3 years ago. I have been back at it 100% for the past year lifting 5x per week. Cardio can still be a bitch though due to injuries. Diet is clean as a whistle.

Eggs, oats, shake in the morning tuna salad midday snack. 8oz grilled chicken salad (spinach, broccoli, tomatoes, sunflower/pumpkin seeds, kidney beans) with 1.5 cups whole grain rice at lunch. Tuna and almonds evening snack. 8oz chicken, rice and shake with fresh greens for dinner. Eggs and shake before bed. No complex carbs, no sugary anything. I do eat a piece of bacon with my morning eggs one time a week because I ****ing love bacon. A bit over 2500 cals 250-265 g protein.

[Scottyb13]

Ok so to cut.. Now correct me here if I'm wrong guys, I'm saying this from what I have heard so assume its right. Test would be to help gain mass, to cut I have heard winny and clen.

[Lunk1]

Ok so to cut.. Now correct me here if I'm wrong guys, I'm saying this from what I have heard so assume its right. Test would be to help gain mass, to cut I have heard winny and clen.

Bulking and cutting can be done on any compound! It is 100% diet dependent!

[Scottyb13]

Ok see, what I heard from a good source even wasn't too sure. He told me tests are to gain mass .. Figured I would throw it out there

[Lunk1]

Ok see, what I heard from a good source even wasn't too sure. He told me tests are to gain mass .. Figured I would throw it out there

Test is the base for all AAS cycles. We need it to function as men! Test in higher than normal doses can build muscle but it depends on diet. You must eat to grow and maintain muscle. Test can also be used to help maintain some lbm while on a calorie defeciant cutting diet!

[panntastic]

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[ElDude]

Test is the base for all AAS cycles. We need it to function as men! Test in higher than normal doses can build muscle but it depends on diet. You must eat to grow and maintain muscle. Test can also be used to help maintain some lbm while on a calorie defeciant cutting diet!

What difference in results would you see in a calorie deficient cutting with AAS and without? With Winny? That is why I originally wanted to run it with Tren, but again, I am new to AAS and after reading this post I don't want to risk Tren sides and not know what to do about them.

[MickeyKnox]

What difference in results would you see in a calorie deficient cutting with AAS and without? With Winny? That is why I originally wanted to run it with Tren, but again, I am new to AAS and after reading this post I don't want to risk Tren sides and not know what to do about them.

You shouldn't be thinking about Tren at this stage. If this is your first cycle, Test ONLY.

This will determine how your body responds to exogenous testosterone and what, if any, sides that show up. It also teaches you how to effectively combat unwanted sides. This is paramount before including other AAS such as a 19 nor or stacking any orals.

[MickeyKnox]

Ttt

[bigsiv]

Bumped....

[Lunk1]

Your needed on the front line!

[OdinsOtherSon]

Its obvious... this needs a BIG BUMP

[bigsiv]

Bump......

[OdinsOtherSon]

You are needed..AT THE TOP!!

[platinumtest746]

Need a bit of advice... I am semi new to AAS and have ran into a dilemma. I was looking to run the following cycle:

Wk 1-8 Testosterone Propionate = 100mg eod.
Wk 3-8 Winstrol 50mg EOD
Wk 1-8 Aromasin 12.5mg eod day after Prop - monitor and adjust accordingly.
Wk 1-8 hCG = 250iu twice/wk day before Prop. Same day as AI.

PCT
Begins wk 9 to wk 12

Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

On my pct I got stuck with 25mg nolvas and they are capsules. Rather than trying to guesstimate removing 5mg out of the capsule would it be a problem to run 50/50/25/25?
I have tried researching this but haven't had much success as nobody seems to have a clear answer. Also based on reviews of this sources gear he tends to have products that are slightly overdosed as it stands. Anyone have any advice?

[Towboater]

Great post and me being one of the newbys I'm gonna take it as a gift!!!

But my main thing is how do you know if your getting them from a legit place?? I mean I'm just a small town country boy but I don't wanna be injecting some dog piss I found off the net. LOL

[muscel_inT.O.]

Wow. So helpful. Great post.

[bigsiv]

To the top.......

[MickeyKnox]

Long overdue shameless bump

[Lunk1]

Long overdue shameless bump

She fianlly ley ya up for air? lol

[MickeyKnox]

She finally let ya up for air? lol

I though you were banned? Or at least Pink by now..(lol)