BUSTED BY COPS....what to do

[BUYLONGTERM]

Finally a subject I feel like I can contribute something to....

You consented to a search so this is pretty much open season on your car. Fortunately, our judicial system still values a person's privacy; however, you basically have to jump through hoops to challenge the acts of a police officer. What it boils down to is as a passenger, do you have an expectation of privacy in your own gymbag? While the answer is most likely yes, you must challenge the search at the time it is being made, otherwise you are giving implied consent that you do not mind them searching the bag. If they are like most cops, they will go ahead and take the chance that you will not know your own rights and that the legality of the search will never become an issue.

Now you have to look at your remedies....assuming these cops are actually sending off your drugs for "testing" when the results come back and if a warrant is issued for your arrest, your local billboard attorney could get those charges dismissed blindfolded because like previously mentioned, this is the epitome of a procedural due process violation.

Now on the other hand, say you wanted to pursue your claim of an illegal search, all you could possibly gain would be the inadmissibility of the gear, assuming it was even brought forth in the first place. You are not getting your stuff back either way. The items in your bag will be presumed stolen, bought with drug money, etc.

I agree, sounds like you got lifted, but assuming you did not, come back and post or private message me with the amount of time it actually took them to contact you, I would help you myself, but I am not licensed in Missouri and you wouldn't want to pay for someone from out of town to deal with it anyway. I would rest easy in the fact that you probably saw the last of them; but if you haven't, get a local attorney familiar with 6th and 14th amendment law and smile as your charges are dropped because of violation of due process rights.

Thanks for your help bro!!

[Heracles74]

Finally a subject I feel like I can contribute something to....

You consented to a search so this is pretty much open season on your car. Fortunately, our judicial system still values a person's privacy; however, you basically have to jump through hoops to challenge the acts of a police officer. What it boils down to is as a passenger, do you have an expectation of privacy in your own gymbag? While the answer is most likely yes, you must challenge the search at the time it is being made, otherwise you are giving implied consent that you do not mind them searching the bag. If they are like most cops, they will go ahead and take the chance that you will not know your own rights and that the legality of the search will never become an issue.

Now you have to look at your remedies....assuming these cops are actually sending off your drugs for "testing" when the results come back and if a warrant is issued for your arrest, your local billboard attorney could get those charges dismissed blindfolded because like previously mentioned, this is the epitome of a procedural due process violation.

Now on the other hand, say you wanted to pursue your claim of an illegal search, all you could possibly gain would be the inadmissibility of the gear, assuming it was even brought forth in the first place. You are not getting your stuff back either way. The items in your bag will be presumed stolen, bought with drug money, etc.

I agree, sounds like you got lifted, but assuming you did not, come back and post or private message me with the amount of time it actually took them to contact you, I would help you myself, but I am not licensed in Missouri and you wouldn't want to pay for someone from out of town to deal with it anyway. I would rest easy in the fact that you probably saw the last of them; but if you haven't, get a local attorney familiar with 6th and 14th amendment law and smile as your charges are dropped because of violation of due process rights.

WOW! great to see we have some good legal minds on our side. thanks bro. your an assett to the board.

[Jsik98]

Finally a subject I feel like I can contribute something to....

You consented to a search so this is pretty much open season on your car. Fortunately, our judicial system still values a person's privacy; however, you basically have to jump through hoops to challenge the acts of a police officer. What it boils down to is as a passenger, do you have an expectation of privacy in your own gymbag? While the answer is most likely yes, you must challenge the search at the time it is being made, otherwise you are giving implied consent that you do not mind them searching the bag. If they are like most cops, they will go ahead and take the chance that you will not know your own rights and that the legality of the search will never become an issue.

Now you have to look at your remedies....assuming these cops are actually sending off your drugs for "testing" when the results come back and if a warrant is issued for your arrest, your local billboard attorney could get those charges dismissed blindfolded because like previously mentioned, this is the epitome of a procedural due process violation.

Now on the other hand, say you wanted to pursue your claim of an illegal search, all you could possibly gain would be the inadmissibility of the gear, assuming it was even brought forth in the first place. You are not getting your stuff back either way. The items in your bag will be presumed stolen, bought with drug money, etc.

I agree, sounds like you got lifted, but assuming you did not, come back and post or private message me with the amount of time it actually took them to contact you, I would help you myself, but I am not licensed in Missouri and you wouldn't want to pay for someone from out of town to deal with it anyway. I would rest easy in the fact that you probably saw the last of them; but if you haven't, get a local attorney familiar with 6th and 14th amendment law and smile as your charges are dropped because of violation of due process rights.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! THIS GUY KNOWS HIS SHIT! MORE POWER TO YOU BROTHER!

[RUI-Products]

prepaid legal is the right thing to do ...it's $35.oo a month ( If you need help I can put you intouch with someone [email protected]) and if and i doubt that you will hear from the cops. If they try some shit tell them they can talk to your attorney. Tht really pisses them off they are done at that point it just time for a prosecutor. they don't want to screw with this case they didn't have a legal right to search you. the evedence will be tosed............Clean out your house and keep you gear at someone elses house and stop hanging out with idiots.

[hollaatyoboy]

same thing happened to except finding steroids they found an 1/8 of a key of cocaine got myself a good lawyer (cost over 10,000 dollars) but in the end had no right to search the car because they found no weed even if you do end up getting himmed up it will be a misdamenor and if it is your first drug offense you will be given the first time offender provision stating that if you complete a year of probation a certain amont of community service it will go on your record as dismissed

[mfiver]

This attorney appears to be very experienced in this area: http://www.rickcollinsonline.com/

If you do end up being charged, it appears he's defended many others and might be helpful.

I don't know him, but my experience in legal matters has been that it's best to use a very experienced attorney, even if the hourly charge is more, the time spent is less and chances of success are higher.

Good luck!

[DrugsrGood]

This attorney appears to be very experienced in this area: http://www.rickcollinsonline.com/

If you do end up being charged, it appears he's defended many others and might be helpful.

I don't know him, but my experience in legal matters has been that it's best to use a very experienced attorney, even if the hourly charge is more, the time spent is less and chances of success are higher.

Good luck!

Good advise, but Rick Collins is known worldwide for being a steroid attorney. I wouldnt bother with all that for such a tiny offense. It would be like hiring Johnny Cochran for a traffic ticket

[Haxsore]

thats deep i want to be an attorney

[DrugsrGood]

What state do you live in? I was busted with two bottles, and a bunch of used syringes, and it was dismissed due to no prior record. You said you have never smoked weed which means you probably also have a pretty clean record. If they DO press it, i doubt they will be very hard on you. a ticket at worst. I have also been busted with E, cops told me they would get back to me with the warrant when tested, and i never heard from them again.

[Tazwell]

you have nothing to worry about... the cops were just trying to scare so you wouldn't do it any more... like someone said before if they were serious about anything you would have been taken to jail on the spot (to be booked atleast)... and charged with possession of drug paraphernalia ( people get taken to jail all the time for having zig-zags, why not you for the neddles)

[diezell]

i wouldnt worry about a thing u got lucky the cops just took the stuff for themselves, typical crooked cops.

[Live4thePump]

good luck bro...i agree with everyone that you're not going to hear from them. I feel for ya cause that's kind of a fear of mine. That's why I'm hella careful with my gear. I'm sure in a year...you think back and laugh.

[4spain]

Get yourself a legal script for everything at Oasis, might cost you a little more cash than a fine, but you would be able to get off any felony charges.

[chris2wire]

Let me throw this in...

You guys are forgetting something VERY crucial here - He broke the law. Period.

He was in possession of a controlled substance, several of them, which is against the law. Yes the cops seem fishy, but its not like they planted the stuff on him or something. Their methods are questionable but their result is successful. They found someone who was breaking the law.

You guys are digging way to deep trying to use every nook and cranny to save the guy when in reality hes not a victim. Hes the perpetrator.

[4spain]

Let me throw this in...

You guys are forgetting something VERY crucial here - He broke the law. Period.

He was in possession of a controlled substance, several of them, which is against the law. Yes the cops seem fishy, but its not like they planted the stuff on him or something. Their methods are questionable but their result is successful. They found someone who was breaking the law.

You guys are digging way to deep trying to use every nook and cranny to save the guy when in reality hes not a victim. Hes the perpetrator.

You wouldn't happen to be a cop would you? Who cares what he is, we are just giving ideas to help a Bro out. I hate to see people get busted for stuff like this. I got busted in Vegas w/ 5000 hits of E about 5 years ago & got off on a illegal search & seizure. I had a damn good lawyer David Cheznoff. So I willing to help anyone get out of trouble for anything like this.

[Juice_Monkey]

Let me throw this in...

You guys are forgetting something VERY crucial here - He broke the law. Period.

He was in possession of a controlled substance, several of them, which is against the law. Yes the cops seem fishy, but its not like they planted the stuff on him or something. Their methods are questionable but their result is successful. They found someone who was breaking the law.

You guys are digging way to deep trying to use every nook and cranny to save the guy when in reality hes not a victim. Hes the perpetrator.

Dear Mr. Police Officer,

Was he breaking the law and being a menace to society? Robbing, raping, beating, extorting....?. No-he was driving in a car and was profiled by the cops because they are young dudes. They also did an illegal search on his car if what he said is true. If we arrested every person in the world for every crime committed, the jails would be more overpopulated than they are now. I hope the cops kept it and dont arrest the guy, why ruin someones life over someone wanting to feel better about themselves and look better to improve himself. Yes they are illegal and if he gets caught, you need to step up to the plate and accept your punishment, but I think you need to relax your approach and I hope you are not a cop, all of our freedom depends on it.

[toolman]

Let me throw this in...

You guys are forgetting something VERY crucial here - He broke the law. Period.

He was in possession of a controlled substance, several of them, which is against the law. Yes the cops seem fishy, but its not like they planted the stuff on him or something. Their methods are questionable but their result is successful. They found someone who was breaking the law.

You guys are digging way to deep trying to use every nook and cranny to save the guy when in reality hes not a victim. Hes the perpetrator.

Sorry bro but we live in America. Civil rights are more important than a law being broken, like it or not. Unreasonable search and siezure is mentioned in our constitution. If the police were not smart enough to follow the law, then they are not fit for enforcing it.

[LionsGate]

Sorry bro but we live in America. Civil rights are more important than a law being broken, like it or not. Unreasonable search and siezure is mentioned in our constitution. If the police were not smart enough to follow the law, then they are not fit for enforcing it.

Amen to that! Think about it, so many cases are thrown out due to bad evidence or some flaw in the paperwork, do you think that if they really were serious they would be that sloppy? The boys back at hq would laugh at a bust like that. Living in fear for six months is exactly what they want you to do, dont let the terrorists win, oh, i mean cops.

[Live4thePump]

Let me throw this in...

You guys are forgetting something VERY crucial here - He broke the law. Period.

He was in possession of a controlled substance, several of them, which is against the law. Yes the cops seem fishy, but its not like they planted the stuff on him or something. Their methods are questionable but their result is successful. They found someone who was breaking the law.

You guys are digging way to deep trying to use every nook and cranny to save the guy when in reality hes not a victim. Hes the perpetrator.

Dude, there are tons of people that brake the law but get away with it because of loopwholes.

[Whitey]

Let me throw this in...

You guys are forgetting something VERY crucial here - He broke the law. Period.

He was in possession of a controlled substance, several of them, which is against the law. Yes the cops seem fishy, but its not like they planted the stuff on him or something. Their methods are questionable but their result is successful. They found someone who was breaking the law.

You guys are digging way to deep trying to use every nook and cranny to save the guy when in reality hes not a victim. Hes the perpetrator.

Yes, the bro is a perp and he should be convicted...

Just as soon as you turn your sorry ass in for your 60mg/ED prop cycle!!

[Slick Arrado]

Yes, the bro is a perp and he should be convicted...

Just as soon as you turn your sorry ass in for your 60mg/ED prop cycle!!

LMAO!!

[mista_liar]

Let me throw this in...

You guys are forgetting something VERY crucial here - He broke the law. Period.

He was in possession of a controlled substance, several of them, which is against the law. Yes the cops seem fishy, but its not like they planted the stuff on him or something. Their methods are questionable but their result is successful. They found someone who was breaking the law.

You guys are digging way to deep trying to use every nook and cranny to save the guy when in reality hes not a victim. Hes the perpetrator.

Are you sure you're on the right side bro?

[Juice_Monkey]

I think the cops kept the stuff for themselves. I would have if I was a cop. Damn crooked cops suck.

[gixxer600]

I say, pursue you claim of an illigal search. Those Fu*kers have your MP3 player and gym stuff!! They won't be able to get you for trafficking, and in my opinion you wouldn't even get a fine. They might presume that the stuff was stolen ore bought with drug money, but they still have to prove that it was. This is why these bastards get away with these types of things. It's because we sit back and let them do it.

[kloter1]

thats unfortunate man. this just makes me hate cops even more. pieces of shit

[thegodfather]

I spoke with a criminal defense lawyer about 2 weeks ago. What she told me was that, the search was illegal because it was for a minor traffic infraction. 5 miles or less over the speed limit. She told me that does not constitute any probable cause. Before you challenge the search, I would challenge the stop itself. No front license plate is not even a moving violation, they were definately out to get you. I've been screwed for that exact same thing before infact. I think the "we smell weed" really translates to "you are young and look suspicious and we are going to trample all over your civil rights and hope you're too stupid to do anything about it." As for the person calling him a criminal, yes arent we all? Have you ever sped in your car before? Made an illegal U-turn? Theres a thousand laws on the books, but it doesn't mean that we have to agree with them all, and if you're posting on a steroid forum, then Im assuming that you use or plan to use steroids, so why are you breakin this guys balls? I hope he gets off, and I hope he sues the shit out of those dirty cops.

[Live4thePump]

Theres a thousand laws on the books, but it doesn't mean that we have to agree with them all, and if you're posting on a steroid forum, then Im assuming that you use or plan to use steroids, so why are you breakin this guys balls? I hope he gets off, and I hope he sues the shit out of those dirty cops.

Hell yeah...i'll second that. There is so much other crap that is far worse than steroids. They don't need to be wasting time with that. Damn i hate cops. Never there when you need em, and always there when you don't want them there.

[Stove]

Here is what I think.....

He said he was from a somewhat small town and the Cops were "very old", I think the cops were abusing the law trying to come up with a drug bust and found the steroids instead of Meth or Grass, the cops know this won't be more than a slap on the wrist, so why do the paperwork, they BS you and then threw your gym bad full of shit in a dumpster behind the police department.

If they had been younger more gung ho cops, your ass would have been processed and out about $1,000.00 after attorney fees if you are lucky.

peace.

stove

[Whitey]

Not to mention that using every possible means to defend an accused is the very essence of our criminal legal system. You can be sure that the prosecutors will use every single tool at their disposal to convict for the maximum penalty allowed. It is an adversarial system, and in the middle justice is found. As toolman mentioned, our form of government emphasizes civil rights over maximum criminal deterence. Is this the most efficient system? No - the most efficient system would be one where LE and the judiciary are one and the same: the police would set your penalty right there on the side of the road. But of course you can see that this system would lend itself to a great deal of injustice.

[PrimoPup]

Not to be a dick but why do you people carry your juice with you, for the love of me i can not figure that out, 9 out of 10 people i hear that get busted it was because they had it on them when there was no reason for it to be on their possession, and to give a cop permission to search your car is absolutely idiotic. Call him officer Dibble and tell him sure Dibble, you can search my car when i see a warrant, now if your going to arrest me get on with it, otherwise goodbye my time is important as well.!

[gixxer600]

Just a thought (from a fellow criminal), is there any way possible for you to be able to get a prescription?? Look into it, may help you a little!!

[4spain]

Just a thought (from a fellow criminal), is there any way possible for you to be able to get a prescription?? Look into it, may help you a little!!

That is what I said, but the original guy that started this has vanished from it. Maybe they already got him? j/k

[rager]

Again.......it Was Over When They Said To Drive On....... They Are Not Going To Do Anything From This Point On... If They Do, Its A Minimal Ticket.

[chris2wire]

Well dont get me wrong, im on his side COMPLETELY. And I hope hes not in trouble, and I wish roids werent illegal for personal use (as well as many things)

But the point is, the cops were just doing their job. He had controlled substances and they caught him. Its a victory for them.

[Juice_Monkey]

Well dont get me wrong, im on his side COMPLETELY. And I hope hes not in trouble, and I wish roids werent illegal for personal use (as well as many things)

But the point is, the cops were just doing their job. He had controlled substances and they caught him. Its a victory for them.

Hi Mr. Police Officer - How can you be on his side "COMPLETELY" and then say it is a victory for the cops at the same time? Bro, I think your views are twisted. A victory for police IMO would be to get a real "bad guy" from the streets, not a guy with steroids in the gym bag. The people that make the world scary to women and children should be getting locked up.

[mista_liar]

Sorry for all the posts, there is just SO MUCH JUICE in this thread! I can't help myself!

Well dont get me wrong, im on his side COMPLETELY. And I hope hes not in trouble, and I wish roids werent illegal for personal use (as well as many things)

But the point is, the cops were just doing their job. He had controlled substances and they caught him. Its a victory for them.

[The Baron]

No, a scrip at this point would not help. That is because the gear that was found was not prescribed. Even if you already have a scrip, you can't carry UG gear around and say "neener neener, I got a scrip!" Has to be in properly labeled bottles with the scrip reference number on it, at least. One popular clinic does not label the vials with full scrip info... just the reference number, and the rest of the info is on the box, which might contain multiple vials. I never carry a jug without the box so the scrip is quickly and easily verifiable.

Probably, since they are old, non-juicing cops, they are using an old fashioned street justice method... scare the crap out of you while actually giving you a break for being "basically good kids" and tossing the evidence. They probably think they are doing the right thing. And not really worth it, prosecuting for 3ml of eq and a bunch of research chems clearly marked "not for human consumption". Like others have said, this is probably beatable, but legal fees will eat your ass. It is most likely, though, that it will never come to that. But DON'T get caught out with gear again! And do make sure your house is clean and stays that way for the next 12 months or so. Probable cause for a search warrant is a lot easier than a successful prosecution. With a nice, legal warrant, if they find anything at all, you probably won't have much chance of acquittal.

[BIGSNOR]

just went and ATTEMPTED to get my gym bag, which they said i could have back. they let me have my gloves and straps. kept all my protein, creatine, tribulus, ephedra, clen, cialis, bottle of clomid, 10 or so ml of test prop, 3ml eq, empty bottle of nolva, syringes. wouildnt even give my damn bag back.

and now instead of 6-8 months he says it takes about 3 months for the lab to process it at which time they will issue a warrant for my arrest if it turns out to be controlled substances. so now im thinkin they are going to pursue this and im sooooooo SHITTING myself. he tried to get me to issue a statement and i told him no, not without my lawyer.

he then gave me a receipt for the stuff he gave me back, but i didnt get anything about the stuff he kept. what should i do, guess i'll be visiting my lawyer soon. so much for making money this summer, tuition is going to pay for itself i guess??????

[jaffry20]

That's brutal bro, I dont get this being in CAD and all. They can charge you having a few mls? shit i think in CAD we are good to go as long as we dont get caught distributing it.

[gixxer600]

Youll be ok bro. It seems now that they figured you wouldnt come back for your stuff and youve got balls for going back there. Its probably like they took it as an insult. Now its just a game. They are just trying to scare you a little. I give you respect for going back to get your stuff back. Talk to a lawyer and youll be fine.