Clen/T3 Cutting Cycle...

[xxwhiteoutxx]

A mild anabolic of 50mg of Winstrol ED, Anavar at
40mg ED or Test Prop at 50mg ED or 100mg EOD is
recommended to preserve muscle lose and fight of
a catabolic state that T3 can cause. You could also
use longer ester testosterone , but they will take much
longer to kick in to be effective.

Whats up guys,

This is pretty much directed to Jack87 or anyone that can help:

I just have a quick question about the "mild anabolic" you said would not only preserve muscle but fight off the T3 catabolic state. You're saying that on the off weeks from clen, that I should take (having chosen Winstrol out of the three: Winstrol, Anavar and Test Prop) 50mg of Winstrol everyday for all 3 off weeks? I'm 5'9 and about 21% BF at 18 yrs old maxing 250 lbs. on bench (meaning i have muscle that I am extremely afraid to lose) looking to hopefully be at 10% BF or lower if possible. I will be following you're cycle with 30mins of H.I.I.T (High Intensity Interval Training) everyday other than Sundays (my break day). Anyone's help would be greatly appreciated. Hell, I'll even throw in before and after pics if i get the results i want!

[xxwhiteoutxx]

A mild anabolic of 50mg of Winstrol ED, Anavar at
40mg ED or Test Prop at 50mg ED or 100mg EOD is
recommended to preserve muscle lose and fight of
a catabolic state that T3 can cause. You could also
use longer ester testosterone , but they will take much
longer to kick in to be effective.

Whats up guys,

This is pretty much directed to Jack87 or anyone that can help:

I just have a quick question about the "mild anabolic" you said would not only preserve muscle but fight off the T3 catabolic state. You're saying that on the off weeks from clen, that I should take (having chosen Winstrol out of the three: Winstrol, Anavar and Test Prop) 50mg of Winstrol everyday for all 3 off weeks? I'm 5'9 and about 21% BF at 18 yrs old maxing 250 lbs. on bench (meaning i have muscle that I am extremely afraid to lose) looking to hopefully be at 10% BF or lower if possible. I will be following you're cycle with 30mins of H.I.I.T (High Intensity Interval Training) everyday other than Sundays (my break day). Anyone's help would be greatly appreciated. Hell, I'll even throw in before and after pics if i get the results i want!

[Musab19]

Whats up guys,

This is pretty much directed to Jack87 or anyone that can help:

I just have a quick question about the "mild anabolic" you said would not only preserve muscle but fight off the T3 catabolic state. You're saying that on the off weeks from clen, that I should take (having chosen Winstrol out of the three: Winstrol, Anavar and Test Prop) 50mg of Winstrol everyday for all 3 off weeks? I'm 5'9 and about 21% BF at 18 yrs old maxing 250 lbs. on bench (meaning i have muscle that I am extremely afraid to lose) looking to hopefully be at 10% BF or lower if possible. I will be following you're cycle with 30mins of H.I.I.T (High Intensity Interval Training) everyday other than Sundays (my break day). Anyone's help would be greatly appreciated. Hell, I'll even throw in before and after pics if i get the results i want!

I have the same problem as you, i will not lose any muscles
i´m 20 years, 20% bf, 85kg, 182cm. Never been on a cycle before, thinking of starting on a clen and t3 cycle. Which harmful steroid can i use to not los muscles, test pro or primobolan is okay?

[jcevans7]

gospel! great read

[castiron]

pretty badass results. I want you on my side in a barfight. I feel like this should be stickied in another area though.

[honeyking]

ok have a look....this cycle what i am thinking to go for....check it and tell me if something is wrong...
CLEN
Day1: 20mcg
Day2: 40mcg
Day3: 60mcg
Day4: 80mcg
Day5: 80mcg
Day6-Day12: 100mcg
Day13: 80 mcg
Day14: 60 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack


t3 cycle i got on net......
day1-day5 12.5mg
day6-day10 25mg
day11-day20 50mg
day21-25 25mg
day26-30 12.5mg

howzz it???? is it fine...or strong??? and will have t3 before my workout in evening and moreover clen in morning after breakfast....thoughts???

[bosh1911]

excellent thread : ) But what about albuterol and T3? should I just take albuterol like usual, but what T3? How should I dose it? Just like if I was taking it with clen?

[AdrenalineJunkie]

excellent thread : ) But what about albuterol and T3? should I just take albuterol like usual, but what T3? How should I dose it? Just like if I was taking it with clen?

Absolutely not. Clen and albuterol require complete different dosages. Most people start albuterol around 6mg and ramp up to around 15-18mg.

[bosh1911]

Absolutely not. Clen and albuterol require complete different dosages. Most people start albuterol around 6mg and ramp up to around 15-18mg.

haha thanks for the response but I meant the T3 dosage while taking albutero, not the albuterol dosage...

[AdrenalineJunkie]

haha thanks for the response but I meant the T3 dosage while taking albutero, not the albuterol dosage...

Yes you will dose the T3 the same

[Xavier!]

Hi Jack,

Got a few questions I hope you can answer for me. I started my first cycle of test e 400, tren e, and clen. Is it necessary to also use T3? I'm starting my clen cycle at 20mcg just to be safe. Also, I have hypothyroidism. My thyroid doesn't work so I take levothyroxine to bring my thyroid levels up. Any recommendations? Any input would be greatly appreciated!

[rynev33]

nice thread guys, looking at t3/clen for sure

[Shark77]

I am wanting to due Buff's cycle outlined above. I have yet to sit down with my claneder and outline the whole cycle like I usually do. How many of the 30 ml (rui) bottles does it take to complete this cycle?

[Shark77]

Can you take just a t3 and an aas> or is the clen a vital part?

[KRL]

looks good!

[Nij]

Does anybody know of any reliable websites one can order both Clen and T3 from?

[t-dogg]

Does anybody know of any reliable websites one can order both Clen and T3 from?

Site sponsor is good. Google is your friend also.

[Nij]

It looks like the site sponsor only sells orals? I'm cautious about Google because I'm not 100% sure about what websites to trust and what-not.

[MuscleInk]

It looks like the site sponsor only sells orals? I'm cautious about Google because I'm not 100% sure about what websites to trust and what-not.

No source phishing please. A lot of guys have had good success with those products sold by Ar-r.

[Nij]

No source phishing please. A lot of guys have had good success with those products sold by Ar-r.

My apologies. I honestly thought the site sponsor was something else. Thanks!

[Nij]

Would a legal anabolic like Beta-Ecdysterone help at all with loss of muscle mass? I am aware that it won't be that effective, but I don't feel comfortable using anything else yet.

[Sam the Plumber]

Would you reccomend a split of Clen. during the day?
And the same for T3?

[Archx91]

Lots of good information thank you dude!

[desenmas]

This is a 6 week cycle:

Clen is taken 1 week on / one week off:

As in my experience it is more effective this way:

A mild anabolic of 50mg of Winstrol ED, Anavar at
40mg ED or Test Prop at 50mg ED or 100mg EOD is
recommended to preserve muscle lose and fight of
a catabolic state that T3 can cause. You could also
use longer ester testosterone, but they will take much
longer to kick in to be effective.

Start T3 at 50mcg as any lower makes no sense since
your body should be producing between 20mcg-25mcg
daily naturally... Clen doses use as a guideline along with
the T3 doses, everyone has different tolerances for both,
but this is was very effective for me...

You can use a simple ECA stack during your off weeks in the
place of Clen if you want to help with the fat burning progress...
Your diet should be fairly high in protein, moderate carbs with
no sugars and moderate fat intake... You may also want to add
a source of EFA's like a flax seen oil to your diet during this time...
Also Clen is known to cause alot of muscle cramping... Also I start
off week three at the same dose I finished with at the end of week
one... Again all depends on your tolerance to the drug, you may
want to start a little lower for a few days before going right back
to your maximum dose.

Drink more water along with taking extra minerals and potassium
and 2-3 grams ED of the amino acid L-Taurine is recommended if
cramping is really a problem... Also take your Clen and T3 in two
divided doses during the day... Also to give you an idea my daily
calorie intake was probably about 1,000 to 1,200 lower then normal
for this entire time...

BTW when I ran this cycle I was running 900mg week of Test Cyp
as my only anabolic right at the end of a bulking cycle... My results
is I went from a chunky, but thick as a bull 240lbs to a fairly hard 212lbs
or so in only 6 weeks... Again adjust the doses to fit your tolerance...
At these doses you will be sweating and hot all day long... Plan on
losing some muscle mass even with the anabolics...

Day 1 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day 2 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day 3 Clen 80mcg / T3 75mcg
Day 4 Clen 100mcg / T3 75mcg
Day 5 Clen 100mcg / T3 75mcg
Day 6 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
Day 7 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
Day 8 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day 9 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day10 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day11 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day12 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day13 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day14 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day15 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day16 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day17 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day18 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day19 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day20 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day21 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day22 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day23 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day24 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day25 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day26 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day27 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day28 Clen off / T3 100mcg
Day29 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
Day30 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
Day31 Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
Day32 Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
Day33 Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
Day34 Clen 120mcg / T3 50mcg
Day35 Clen 120mcg / T3 50mcg
Day36 Clen off / T3 50mcg
Day37 Clen off / T3 50mcg
Day38 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day39 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day40 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day41 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day42 Clen off / T3 25mcg

where the you get the t3 and clen with that MCG.dose
iam 40 210 pounds 5.11 need to lose like 30 pounds of fat build muscle iam carb sensetive

any suggestion apreciated it
thank youu

[petapopin1]

Ephedrine Stimulates Beta Cells just like clen so I think it would be better just to do 1 week on 1 week of no ?

[dernico]

Hello i have been training for last 2 years
my personal trainer told suggest me to start a cycle
and my cycle consist of
TEST prop
WINN
TREN
clen
t3
but i think this is too much for a first cycle
any advice ?
and sorry i dont know the dosage yet
thanks in advance

[Cheryl]

Hi there , Do you know where I can order clen online that ships to canada ? Thank-u !

[HilarioD]

Any Advise?

[Khazima]

No one can tell you that, you'll have to find out for yourself.

[breakthrough]

I started on a Clen/T3 cycle today using Jack87s suggested cycle except this is my first time so I just went 50mcg for both clen and t3 to see how my body reacts. 10mcg probably isn't going to make much of a difference but, I am being sort of cautious. Tomorrow I will check my weight and post some stats. I am right around 20% BMI and want to cut down before cycling test.

[breakthrough]

After 30 min of taking Clen I could feel the affects. It was a little uncomfortable i.e. felt like my heart beat went up, but after an hour or so it was fine. Has anyone experimented with multi-dosing e.g. instead of 60mcg once a day, taking 30mcg twice a day?

[Bluesmoke343]

You'll lose a good amount of weight on this cycle...good choice. Just want you to know t3 is catabolic and has the tendency to burn muscle aswell so if your interested in keeping your muscle or building some more while you cut add 500mg of test 250mg on Mondays and Thursdays. I did this cycle lost 30 pounds of fat and gained 12 muscle. That was years ago though I gained that back due to bad diet lol

[Supafreak]

I'm taking clen for the firs time, my family has a history of heart problems but personally I've never had any at all. I'm taking clen and on day 3, I'm trying two weeks on two week off for my first time. I may be over thinking it and allowing the sides to come stronger than they actually are but, I've had headaches, and since I'm not taking any stuns to agitate it I'm actually getting sleepy and groggy on this stuff. I've had cramps. And my blood pressure as of this morning was 143/95 I usually sit at 128/88 so I'm not sure what to think but feeling like these effect and long term aren't worth it and thinking of stopping altogether. Can anyone with experience shed light on this please?

[Alimaster2]

This is a 6 week cycle:

Clen is taken 1 week on / one week off:

As in my experience it is more effective this way:

A mild anabolic of 50mg of Winstrol ED, Anavar at
40mg ED or Test Prop at 50mg ED or 100mg EOD is
recommended to preserve muscle lose and fight of
a catabolic state that T3 can cause. You could also
use longer ester testosterone, but they will take much
longer to kick in to be effective.

Start T3 at 50mcg as any lower makes no sense since
your body should be producing between 20mcg-25mcg
daily naturally... Clen doses use as a guideline along with
the T3 doses, everyone has different tolerances for both,
but this is was very effective for me...

You can use a simple ECA stack during your off weeks in the
place of Clen if you want to help with the fat burning progress...
Your diet should be fairly high in protein, moderate carbs with
no sugars and moderate fat intake... You may also want to add
a source of EFA's like a flax seen oil to your diet during this time...
Also Clen is known to cause alot of muscle cramping... Also I start
off week three at the same dose I finished with at the end of week
one... Again all depends on your tolerance to the drug, you may
want to start a little lower for a few days before going right back
to your maximum dose.

Drink more water along with taking extra minerals and potassium
and 2-3 grams ED of the amino acid L-Taurine is recommended if
cramping is really a problem... Also take your Clen and T3 in two
divided doses during the day... Also to give you an idea my daily
calorie intake was probably about 1,000 to 1,200 lower then normal
for this entire time...

BTW when I ran this cycle I was running 900mg week of Test Cyp
as my only anabolic right at the end of a bulking cycle... My results
is I went from a chunky, but thick as a bull 240lbs to a fairly hard 212lbs
or so in only 6 weeks... Again adjust the doses to fit your tolerance...
At these doses you will be sweating and hot all day long... Plan on
losing some muscle mass even with the anabolics...

Day 1 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day 2 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day 3 Clen 80mcg / T3 75mcg
Day 4 Clen 100mcg / T3 75mcg
Day 5 Clen 100mcg / T3 75mcg
Day 6 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
Day 7 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
Day 8 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day 9 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day10 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day11 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day12 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day13 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day14 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day15 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day16 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day17 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day18 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day19 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day20 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day21 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day22 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day23 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day24 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day25 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day26 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day27 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day28 Clen off / T3 100mcg
Day29 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
Day30 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
Day31 Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
Day32 Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
Day33 Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
Day34 Clen 120mcg / T3 50mcg
Day35 Clen 120mcg / T3 50mcg
Day36 Clen off / T3 50mcg
Day37 Clen off / T3 50mcg
Day38 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day39 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day40 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day41 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day42 Clen off / T3 25mcg

Can u tell me how should i stack clen and t3? I heard its 2 weeks on 2 weeks of should i use both in same cycle or what do u suggest? Thanks i tought its 2 weeks on with clen and then in off period i could take t3 but then i did research about it i read u can stack them both 2 weeks on and 2 week of in off period should i still take t3 ?

[Alimaster2]

Can anyone help me ? Whats the best time to take clen and t3? And should i take both in same time or after some hours ?

[RigPig]

This is a 6 week cycle: Clen is taken 1 week on / one week off: As in my experience it is more effective this way: A mild anabolic of 50mg of Winstrol ED, Anavar at 40mg ED or Test Prop at 50mg ED or 100mg EOD is recommended to preserve muscle lose and fight of a catabolic state that T3 can cause. You could also use longer ester testosterone, but they will take much longer to kick in to be effective. Start T3 at 50mcg as any lower makes no sense since your body should be producing between 20mcg-25mcg daily naturally... Clen doses use as a guideline along with the T3 doses, everyone has different tolerances for both, but this is was very effective for me... You can use a simple ECA stack during your off weeks in the place of Clen if you want to help with the fat burning progress... Your diet should be fairly high in protein, moderate carbs with no sugars and moderate fat intake... You may also want to add a source of EFA's like a flax seen oil to your diet during this time... Also Clen is known to cause alot of muscle cramping... Also I start off week three at the same dose I finished with at the end of week one... Again all depends on your tolerance to the drug, you may want to start a little lower for a few days before going right back to your maximum dose. Drink more water along with taking extra minerals and potassium and 2-3 grams ED of the amino acid L-Taurine is recommended if cramping is really a problem... Also take your Clen and T3 in two divided doses during the day... Also to give you an idea my daily calorie intake was probably about 1,000 to 1,200 lower then normal for this entire time... BTW when I ran this cycle I was running 900mg week of Test Cyp as my only anabolic right at the end of a bulking cycle... My results is I went from a chunky, but thick as a bull 240lbs to a fairly hard 212lbs or so in only 6 weeks... Again adjust the doses to fit your tolerance... At these doses you will be sweating and hot all day long... Plan on losing some muscle mass even with the anabolics... Day 1 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg Day 2 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg Day 3 Clen 80mcg / T3 75mcg Day 4 Clen 100mcg / T3 75mcg Day 5 Clen 100mcg / T3 75mcg Day 6 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg Day 7 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg Day 8 Clen off / T3 125mcg Day 9 Clen off / T3 125mcg Day10 Clen off / T3 125mcg Day11 Clen off / T3 125mcg Day12 Clen off / T3 125mcg Day13 Clen off / T3 125mcg Day14 Clen off / T3 125mcg Day15 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg Day16 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg Day17 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg Day18 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg Day19 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg Day20 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg Day21 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg Day22 Clen off / T3 125mcg Day23 Clen off / T3 125mcg Day24 Clen off / T3 125mcg Day25 Clen off / T3 125mcg Day26 Clen off / T3 125mcg Day27 Clen off / T3 125mcg Day28 Clen off / T3 100mcg Day29 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg Day30 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg Day31 Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg Day32 Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg Day33 Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg Day34 Clen 120mcg / T3 50mcg Day35 Clen 120mcg / T3 50mcg Day36 Clen off / T3 50mcg Day37 Clen off / T3 50mcg Day38 Clen off / T3 25mcg Day39 Clen off / T3 25mcg Day40 Clen off / T3 25mcg Day41 Clen off / T3 25mcg Day42 Clen off / T3 25mcg

Is this still current? Do we have guys that have followed this protocol and can vouch for it?

[SpotMe87]

if taking ketotifen can one continue taking clen indefinitely?

[funnyman]

Im wondering the same things about this thread. Is this still the current "handbook" we'd use?
Doses seem a little high and is this saying anavar or winstrol alone will be enough to ward off catabolism of t3?

[PTROIDE]

Hello, another compound to take in the clen off weeks? yohimbine is a good way? ou eca?

[Jack87]

Just bumping this to the top with a few pics...
Meant to add pics to this when I first posted it...

So incase this question ever comes up?? Buffy does this
stack really help burn BF% if my diet and training are in check..

The 240lb Pic was at the peak of my bulking phase, Yes I was
carrying way to much BF% but that was the plan at the time
and the 215lb pics are a short time later... And yes I swear the
timelines are 100% accurate and true... And done right this is
what a Clen/T3 cycle can do if you bust your ass the right way..