Clen Faq. You better like it it took me ages.

[livingwithdoms]

I am sure a ton of people have benefited from this numerous times, classic thread.

[bigslick7878]

Great post, one question.

I take benadryl every night to help me sleep, will this effect the clen at all?

I notice it said to take it on the 3rd week but not before that in the OP.

[mulldog55]

awesome post, thanks

[Xoku]

Clen FAQ

After reading and answering the same questions every week I decided to write this FAQ. Hopefully it will answer the most commonly asked questions about Clen and also dispel some of the myths and untruths associated with it. I have a lot of personal experience with Clen. I used to weigh over 315lbs at over 30%BF. With a good diet and the help of Clen I managed to shed over 100lbs of fat, finally tipping the scales at 180lbs and under 9%BF. I will not be including huge amounts of technical and scientific info as many will find that boring and the idea is that someone new to Clen can glean some useful info from here without falling asleep! If you wish to get more technical then check out Anthony Roberts' Clen profile in the "steroid profile" section of the forum

Q. What is Clen?

A. Clenbuterol is a prescription drug. It is a bronchodilator which means it is given to patients to improve bronchial airflow (helps people breathe easier). It is commonly prescribed to asthmatics and for many other illnesses which cause breathing difficulty. Clen is often self administered as an "off label" fat loss drug. Many have used this compound to shed pounds very effectively.

Q I have a liquid/tablet/spray is this ok?

A. Clen is available in a variety of guises. The most common being tablets typically in the 20mcg format. I have also seen them dosed at 25mcg and 40mcg. There is a syrup solution which was once popular on prescription but this is not often seen now. A growing market is the "research chem" market. These are chemicals marketed towards lab experimentation (therefore bypassing strict laws about selling prescription meds) but are actually meant for consumption by the customer. The Clen from these companies is usually sold in a vial or spray bottle and the compound is suspended in solvent. The solution is dropped into the mouth with an oral or normal syringe or some are supplied with a spray which gives a measured dose orally. Much like UGLs the quality of these research chem products varies widely. Some are under or over dosed while others contain no active ingredients at all. The best advice is to find a recommended source that people you trust have used successfully. I would recommend using ARR as I feel Lion offers quality products and service. The reason people buy from research chem companies is that the compounds would be hard to obtain otherwise and the chem companies are usually much cheaper than human grade. Make sure you take note of the dosage on the product you are buying. Last but not least there are a couple of injectable versions. There are prescription injectables that to be honest are pretty rare now days. One injectable version is gaining quite a following though. Helios is a mix of Clen and Yohimbine and is designed to be used for spot fat loss (the area injected will have fat loss). Users of this product have been very happy with it. I do not know the dosage schedules for injectable products so do some good research if you are going to use them.

Q. Will It Harm Me?

A. Clen has been shown in some studies to cause heart problems. These studies were conducted on animals and they were given very large doses. It may also be possible to do yourself some permanent and possibly serious harm if you took a large overdose. With Clen more does not = better! I have never met or spoken to anyone who has been harmed as a direct result of using Clen. This does not mean it won't happen though. Like all drugs caution should be used and one should be very aware that there could be possible side effects.

Q. What Are The Side Effects and how do I cope with them?

A. Clens side effects include - high blood pressure, shaking, headaches, cramps, insomnia and increased heart rate/palpitations. While using Clen I would advise you monitor your blood pressure. The machines for this can be bought extremely cheaply at a chemist and are invaluable if you use Clen and/or AS. If your BP is high then lower the dose or discontinue until normal BP is attained. Shaking is a common side effect. While on Clen I get shaky hands when I am writing or performing intricate tasks. If you find you are shaking too much/all the time then you may try lowering the dose and then bringing it back up slowly over a few days. Headaches are fairly common. Be careful they are not a result of high BP. If they are not then taking an OTC painkiller will cure your problem. Cramps while on Clen are associated with Taurine. Taurine is an amino acid that is present in the body. Clen affects the body’s level of Taurine and this can sometimes cause cramps. Supplementing Taurine (I take 2g pre workout and 2g PWO) should cure this. If you still have cramps try supplementing with potassium and examine your salt intake (make sure it’s not too high) these are not Clen related but could help with the cramps! Insomnia is common if Clen is taken to near to bed time, basically make sure your last dose is taken 5-6 hours before bed. Saying that Clen has a long half-life (over 30 hours) so sometimes you may try lowering the dose if it is really affecting sleep. Another remedy may be to take some Valerian root before bed to help you sleep. If you have palpitation then lower dose or discontinue. You may want to check with a doctor as heart problems are no joke and should not be ignored. I think I have covered the most common side effects but there are probably many others that relate to the individual. If you believe you have serious or worrying sides, go see the doc.

Q. OK I Want To Take It But How?

A. Well there are several popular dosing protocols with Clen. It boils down to maybe trying them and finding out which one works/feels comfortable for you. Clen differs in dosage and effects from each individual. Some people claim that they are completely immune to the effects of Clen and it does not help them at all, although I have never seen any scientific reasoning behind it. However enough people have said it for there to be some truth in it. The most important thing to remember when using Clen is that the body quickly becomes tolerant to it. Clen down regulates receptors in the body and eventually (usually in the second or third week) results have slowed to a stop. For this reason Clen has a variety of dosage protocols designed to prevent this down regulation. Firstly we need to start at a low dose and slowly build up to a dose that is effective but not uncomfortable. I would recommend starting at 60mcg. Stay at that dosage for three days then up the dose by 20mcg. Repeat this process until you reach a dosage where you can really feel the Clen working (slight shakes, slightly faster HR). You may want to take your body temp daily while doing this. An effective dose will raise the body temp by about 1/2 a degree. You can also monitor when it becomes ineffective as temp will drop back to normal. My Clen dosage looks some thing like this when I'm starting.


Day 1 60mcg
Day 2 60mcg
Day 3 60mcg
Day 4 80mcg
Day 5 80mcg
Day 6 80mcg
Day 7 100mcg
Day 8 100mcg
Day 9 100mcg
Day 10 120mcg
Day 11 120mcg
I normally stop at 120mcg as this dosage works for me with minimal sides.

I take all my Clen in the AM before cardio. Many don't lie to take it all at once and split the dosage throughout the day. I find that if I do this the last dose affects my sleep and I quite like feeling a bit "wired" in the morning! Some people will stop using Clen at day 14. They will then take 14 days off to allow the beta receptors to up regulate. They can then recommence and the Clen will be effective again for a further 14 days. More recently it has become fashionable to use an antihistamine compound to up regulate the beta receptors while remaining on Clen. This is my preferred method. There are two ways I know of doing this.

1. use zaditen/ketoifen taken at 2-3mg per day along with the Clen. Users report staying on for 12 weeks plus and the Clen is still effective. The downside is that many people get very drowsy using these compounds and are unable to train properly.

2. Take 50mg of Benadryl or another antihistamine containing 50mg of diphenhydrmine (sleep ease from boots chemist if you are in UK!) every night during every third week while you are on Clen. So I would dose my Clen as usual and at day 14 I would add the Benadryl every night for 7 nights (while still taking the clen). Discontinue the Benadryl until day 35 and repeat. I favour this method as it helps me sleep and does not affect my performance in the day. I believe we can thank Anthony Roberts for this method.

There is another method that I have seen many people using. It is common to use the 2 weeks on 2 weeks off method but use ECA (ephedrine,caffiene,aspirin) during the off weeks. This method is totally pointless and counter productive. The whole point of taking two weeks off is to allow beta receptors to up regulate making Clen effective again. ECA down regulates these receptors (plus hitting a load of others) just like Clen. Therefore the receptors never up regulate and Clen + ECA becomes ineffective.

Q. How do I come off?

A. I normally lower the dose slowly day by day until I am off as I don’t like to suddenly shocking the body, however there is no evidence to say it is detrimental to come straight off it is just my personal choice.


Well I hope that has answered some questions. I will update/add to this when I think of anything new!

PB.

In regards to where you mention the Benadryl method.. can I take 50mg of Diphenhydrmine from "Nighttime Sleep Aid by Walgreens" instead of Benadryl? It contains 25mg of Diphenhydrmine each capsule and the dosage says two capsules. Would this give me the same result as the Benadryl method or is there another ingredient in Benadryl that I need that wasn't mentioned? Thanks for your reply in advance.

[Najeem]

thanks this was helpful!

[funkymonk]

I will be using Ketotifen with clen, starting on day 1. Is 1mg a night enough?

[freakinhuge]

1mg Keto at night will help you sleep and restore beta 2 receptors

[omarahad]

well done. this is the kind of thing i would look for. the kind of information i'd look for.. if i wanted to cycle clen, which i already have.l.

[funkymonk]

Finally got my goods.

For the last 7 days I've dosed:
-100mg caffeine 2x/day
-12.5mg ephedrine 2x/day
-50mg benadryl 1x/day right before bed

Are my beta-2 receptors fine from the light EC, or do they need a few days to upregulate before starting my clen/keto cycle?

Tapering up clen and running a constant 1mg/keto a night.

[dude99]

Finally got my goods.

For the last 7 days I've dosed:
-100mg caffeine 2x/day
-12.5mg ephedrine 2x/day
-50mg benadryl 1x/day right before bed

Are my beta-2 receptors fine from the light EC, or do they need a few days to upregulate before starting my clen/keto cycle?

Tapering up clen and running a constant 1mg/keto a night.

i would love to know the answer to this as well....basically should there be time in between EC stack and clen for receptor to recover or can u go from EC stack to clen and vice versa

[chitown2011]

If someone took it 2weeks on, 2 weeks off and 2 weeks on....how long before they can jump and start a new cycle of clen? also... if there doses were 40, 80, 80, 100, 120, 120, 160, 160, 200, 200, 240, 240, 180, 120 then stop for 2 weeks and repeat.....and they got results, but weren't losing sleep, hands a lil shaky , is the dose fine? or too much? Thanks for your advice everyone

[Granovich]

i just ordered the Clen and also have t3
how to put them together ?

[elle14]

this post was great! btw, I am on the 2nd day of clen+keto let's see how it goes!

[funkymonk]

Just finished my 21st day of clen.

120mcg daily
1mg keto nightly
400mg potassium daily
5g taurine daily

And I've had virtually 0 sides (maybe cause I'm pretty damn resistant to stims?).

Any reason why I shouldn't up it to 160mcg for the last 7 days?

[freakinhuge]

Just finished my 21st day of clen.

120mcg daily
1mg keto nightly
400mg potassium daily
5g taurine daily

And I've had virtually 0 sides (maybe cause I'm pretty damn resistant to stims?).

Any reason why I shouldn't up it to 160mcg for the last 7 days?

Looks like you doing great. Are you seeing results from the clen keto cycle? If so I would keep it where its at. It all depends on the results and how your body is handling it.

[J. Cole]

Great post!

[bjpennnn]

if used in moderation you should be ok^^^but nothing it set in stone when dealing with this type of shit.

[dec11]

clen, unless you are in single digit bf and want lower for comp = a big fat waste of time

[Huge_Brah]

clen, unless you are in single digit bf and want lower for comp = a big fat waste of time

Wouldnt it help you get to single digit? Isn't that what its for?

[funkymonk]

Wouldnt it help you get to single digit? Isn't that what its for?

I think his point was 10% or there abouts is pretty easily attainable with diet, exercise, and persistence alone, at least in comparison to dropping the last few % for a show.

[Standby]

clen, unless you are in single digit bf and want lower for comp = a big fat waste of time

with my experience ill back dec up on this. didnt do anything for me i couldnt do on my own. and to be honest my losses stayed the same while on it and off it

[lilnba]

Thank you!

[gs455]

anybody know of any reputable online pharmacies where i can get this? i've googled like crazy and have had no luck.

[Beastking85]

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[CarDojunky]

Is a cycle like this possible?

2wks on 2wks off , 5days on 9days off ,2wks on 2wks off 5days on 9days off etc. Can any one tell me if the 5/9day cycle is enough time off to make it work to get back on to the 2/2wk cycle? Or would a 4days on 10days off be better, I'm trying to work it around my job roster.

Thanks

[gillchase]

Just wondering if its possible to take anything to control the shaking or sweating. The idea of clean sounds good as I have quite some bf to shift but stims ;-(

[evander87]

Sorry Gill I can't answer you question but I was going to bump this thread because I wanted current members opinions on using Clen 35 days straight+, as described in the OP, as opposed to the 2 weeks on 2 weeks off? Thoughts, opinions, experiences? Thank you.

[pepous]

How many cycles 14 off and 14 on is possible to go while cutting?

If the first cycle we started on 40 mg in the second cycle after 14 days off will 40 mg to start on be effective? Or the second cycle we have to go level up and start on higher dosage?

Thanks

[BigBench550]

I usually start higher each time

[Brohim]

Start out at 50 and work your way up to 100. TAke it with water. You want it to go to your stomach not your throat!

[Stables]

Thanks dude! how do u measure such a small dose though?

[Db408]

Perfect Beast... So if I plan on doing a 10 to 12 week cycle I know I go up 20mcg every 3 days but once I'm at the highest MCG (120) do I maintain that MCG for the remainder of the cycle? Taking Benadryl every 3rd week of the cycle? I've taken clen before but I spent the whole cycle ramping up. peaked for a week at 140mcg and the tapered back down.

[Sejo]

Question for you friends, I have a bottle of Clen 100 pills(40mcg's per pill) and 1 bottle of T3 by San 180 pills(20mg per pill) my question is how the heck wold I use the T3 if I am not allowed to use that much Mg's per day because I though 20mg is like 20,00mcg's? please some one help me with this I have also take pics of the stuff so you might know the brand.

Also can I use Benadryl instead of Ketotifen?

[t-dogg]

Bump! Great read!


I will be doing a two on/off cycle for four weeks total after I finish my cycle. Only question I have is how long should you stay away from doing cycles with clen?

[one1287]

My question is can Clen be used with test blend and deca or it's a waste and just wait

[brachialis]

Great Post answered a lot of my questions.

Can I start of Clenbuterol with half of the pill like 10mcg so that I DON'T SCREW UP THE HORMONES IN MY BODY and continue to maybe 20mcg. Will it have an affect? I am sure it will still act as a thermogenic? Can I stck this with anavar? Is it a good idea.

[Hueypfc]

great read. im currently studying options to get "over the hump" this looks like the thing i need!

[Broden92]

Loving this thread!!!

One question. I've received my liquid clen & L-Taurine in the mail. I'm going to follow as prompted in the info, the only thing I don't understand is the dosages of clen when taking Benadryl in the 3rd week? Do you keep it the dosage as you were on day 14 e.g. 100-120mcg or start to lower and come off the dosage to allow the beta receptors to up regulate?

Oh and any particular sizes of syringes/squirters that makes it easier to serve?

This is my first time so any help would be great. Thanks

[wetfanny]

is it ok to get on the clen when i am only 21?

[wetfanny]

also does the research formula from ar-r go off after time?