Halodrol-50, Methandrol-50, Halo D, H4...

[LuckyKid57]

Hey everyone...I'm new here and I have tried to search around for an explanation on this, but I am not finding the information (I'm sorry if this has been posted in the past). I have a question about these methyl products. Just what exactly are they? The compound shared amongst all of them is 4-chloro-,17a methyl-androst-1-one,4-diene-3-17b-diol. 50 mg is the dosage (hence the names of most). Is this considered to be methandrostenolone (I doubt because that is dianabol), methandriol, methyltestosterone, methyltrienolone, etc... there are so many I am having trouble just finding out if it is an actual TRUE growth hormone or what.

Basically, what I believe (from the research I have done) is that it is a growth hormone that causes a chain reaction each day within the body to produce strength and testosterone in order to build muscle and max gains.

I have done a lot of research on the methyl compounds, but I am just new to this still. I know I probably sound like a total newbie at this stuff...but I just need to really learn what it is.

Does this sound like a good stack if I were to use one of these hormones (I am 22 years old, 18% bf, down from probably 30% a year ago and have used the Methandrol-50 before) :

-Halodrol-50 (Methandrol-50, H4, or Halo D) (if I use the Halodrol I would get the origional from Gaspari, not the new one)
-Vyotech Nitrobolic/VPX NO Shotgun just as a NO
-EDT Elite K Krealklyn
-Multi
-Pro Liver by Prima Force to be taken during the month long cycle
-Novedex XT by Gaspari to be taken starting Week 3 and to end 2 full weeks after the methyl is finished (pyramid from 2/3/4/3/2)

Another question...I have a friend who has only used NO products. He is 21 years old and has never used creatine or any hormone for that matter. Would it be overkill if he were to use this same stack and go through it with me? He has been lifting seriously for probably the last 8 years (football and all that). Another friend has been lifting hardcore for about 9 months, he is 20 years old, 21 in august. Is it safe for him to be running this stack?

Any information would really help me out, I really appreciate you guys reading this. Direct posted answers would be great, and links to informative sites would be just as appreciated. I just can't find any really solid and reliable information when I search for the full compound name. Thanks so much everyone!

---Lucky

[LuckyKid57]

Anyone? (bump)

[UpstateTank]

Hey everyone...I'm new here and I have tried to search around for an explanation on this, but I am not finding the information (I'm sorry if this has been posted in the past). I have a question about these methyl products. Just what exactly are they? The compound shared amongst all of them is 4-chloro-,17a methyl-androst-1-one,4-diene-3-17b-diol. 50 mg is the dosage (hence the names of most). Is this considered to be methandrostenolone (I doubt because that is dianabol), methandriol, methyltestosterone, methyltrienolone, etc... there are so many I am having trouble just finding out if it is an actual TRUE growth hormone or what.

Basically, what I believe (from the research I have done) is that it is a growth hormone that causes a chain reaction each day within the body to produce strength and testosterone in order to build muscle and max gains.

I have done a lot of research on the methyl compounds, but I am just new to this still. I know I probably sound like a total newbie at this stuff...but I just need to really learn what it is.

Does this sound like a good stack if I were to use one of these hormones (I am 22 years old, 18% bf, down from probably 30% a year ago and have used the Methandrol-50 before) :

-Halodrol-50 (Methandrol-50, H4, or Halo D) (if I use the Halodrol I would get the origional from Gaspari, not the new one)
-Vyotech Nitrobolic/VPX NO Shotgun just as a NO
-EDT Elite K Krealklyn
-Multi
-Pro Liver by Prima Force to be taken during the month long cycle
-Novedex XT by Gaspari to be taken starting Week 3 and to end 2 full weeks after the methyl is finished (pyramid from 2/3/4/3/2)

Another question...I have a friend who has only used NO products. He is 21 years old and has never used creatine or any hormone for that matter. Would it be overkill if he were to use this same stack and go through it with me? He has been lifting seriously for probably the last 8 years (football and all that). Another friend has been lifting hardcore for about 9 months, he is 20 years old, 21 in august. Is it safe for him to be running this stack?

Any information would really help me out, I really appreciate you guys reading this. Direct posted answers would be great, and links to informative sites would be just as appreciated. I just can't find any really solid and reliable information when I search for the full compound name. Thanks so much everyone!

---Lucky

Hopefully I can help ya out a lil bit...
What you have isnt any "real" aas...i (believe...correct me if I'm wrong anybody) that its a prohormone. It may be derived from "real" steroid, but I'm not sure which one.

(If its true that it is a prohormone) This means that once ingested it requires activation within the body to "work its magic" per se...an example of a prohormone that has been banned would be andro. Keeping this in mind what you have is not a form of growth hormone. Prohormones (and steroids in general) and growth hormones are completely different.

If you do decide to use it (which I think you should hold off being you have a lil more research to do) I would drop your body fat by a little bit more...down to 14-13%--It may be a pain in the but, but itll pay off in the long run.

I say hold off because you do not have a proper pct-post cycle therapy-lined up. Novedex xt by Gaspari more than likely wont cut it for pct, and pct should begin after the cycle has been completed, not during the last week. Read up on the pct forum for the basics on what post cycle therapy is all about. On I side note I would highly recommend NO shotgun over the other NO supp you have listed.

It could be the way you worded the sentence..."used creatine or any hormone for that matter" but creatine is not a hormone, its simply a blend of amino acids. As far as whether or not your friends are ready I dont think thats a question anyone could answer on this board.

One last thing, what is your diet like? TRUST me on this you'll be better off reasearching more, dropping your bf a lil bit and getting a set, good diet . Hit up the diet forum..theres lots of helpful people Research anything and everything pertaining to todays otc roids and prohormones (run a search for superdrol, oxodrol, methyl masterdrol, m1t etc etc)...The information may not perfectly line up with what is required with haladrol, but it will give you a grasp of how things need to be done with a cycle of haladrol (i.e. support supps, pct, side effects etc etc).

Hope that answered some of your questions!

-UpstateTank

[LuckyKid57]

Hey man, thanks so much for your response! Yeah, I have actually ran a cycle of Methandrol-50 (which is a copy of the Gaspari Halodrol-50). I added 9 pounds of mass in a month (probably some fat, obviously, but body fat percentage actually dropped on my bod pod reading, so I put on more muscle than fat hopefully). I liked the visual results too.

Yeah, I mean, I know that the Halodrol is not a "REAL" steroid...at least I don't believe it is. I used the Novedex starting in the cycle and overlapping to afterwards, along with the proliver and i turned out alright. I am certainly taking into consideration what you are saying though. I will continue my research on more effective PCT's.

My diet is now very clean, I am actually ending a cutting cycle at the end of January. That's why I was going to try to bulk back up in February. As for my body fat, like I said I am around 18-19% (down from high 20's a year ago!!!) and I would like to get down to the 10% area.

Man, I really appreciate your response, and I will try to find more research on these damn products but it's rough!

Also, I have used VPX NO Shotgun and I LOVE it. Have you ever tried Vyotech's Nitrobolic? Man, it's incredible. I would definitley run a month of it. I would actually say (for me) that both products are pretty much equal in the runnings as far as pumps and effectiveness in the gym go.

Thanks again dude, I'll see yah around.

[UpstateTank]

my pleasure brother

keep us updated!

[toyo92]

[QUOTE=LuckyKid57] I have actually ran a cycle of Methandrol-50 (which is a copy of the Gaspari Halodrol-50). I added 9 pounds of mass in a month (probably some fat, obviously, but body fat percentage actually dropped on my bod pod reading, so I put on more muscle than fat hopefully). I liked the visual results too.

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did you stack with any other supplements as well? and was it weber pharmaceuticals? any sides?

[shook]

are there any with formulas like 1 ad or superdrol that you can still buy? and is trenadrol anygood

[WidowMaker]

^^^^^^hey shook, is that a 20 skin over a bunch of one's, LOL.^^^^^^

[UpstateTank]

^^^^^^hey shook, is that a 20 skin over a bunch of one's, LOL.^^^^^^

[shook]

no...thank you so much for answering my question.

[K.Biz]

to answer your question.. yes there are.

[cfiler]

There are still brands making PP and SD knock-offs.

Haven't run trenadrol yet, but the winztrol is supposed to be really good.

Aswell, I've seen afew companies making 4ad again. Atill no 1ad or 1test though.

[LuckyKid57]

Superdrol copies that I know of...
Oxodrol-12 by Webber (now I believe they are even marketing under IDS...surprising)
4-AD by Sci-Fit

Halodrol-50 Copies
Halo-D
Methandrol-50 (Webber)
H4 by Sci-Fit

[shook]

i cant find anything forsale, shits all discontinued or out of stock, i want to run some with my decca

[Schmidty]

i cant find anything forsale, shits all discontinued or out of stock, i want to run some with my decca

Dont tell me your doing a deca only cycle.

[shook]

uh actually my first cycle was british dragon decca only 250mg per ml at 2ml per injection for 6 weeks, 19lbs. solid

[UpstateTank]

uh actually my first cycle was british dragon decca only 250mg per ml at 2ml per injection for 6 weeks, 19lbs. solid

[notorious_mem]

uh actually my first cycle was british dragon decca only 250mg per ml at 2ml per injection for 6 weeks, 19lbs. solid

no water weight in them 19lbs?

[brugalou]

hey luckykid I'm about to run my 1st cycle ever of halodrol-50 on feb 12th. I've had it for a few months but did my research b4 starting. I'm also stacking it with no shotgun, perfect cycle(liver support), hawthorn, red yeast rice w/ coq10, saw palmetto, flax seed oil and mega man sport multi-v. My pct consist of novedex xt, lean xtreme, and I got some nolvadex on hand just in case. Hope it goes well.

[oak2429]

let me know how the halodrol 50 works out for you. i did a cycle of it and gained a solid 10lbs

[italianplayboy09]

uh actually my first cycle was british dragon decca only 250mg per ml at 2ml per injection for 6 weeks, 19lbs. solid

hahahaha, is that you in the pic?

[K.Biz]

hahahaha, is that you in the pic?

so before the "19 solid pounds" you were what mabye 120 pounds? if thats your picture of course