M1t FAQ

**Bleche** · 02-22-2005, 11:32 AM

UPDATE:
I have one week left in my 4 week cycle, I have gone from 172-174 to 187.5 as of yesterday. I'm doing the sample cycle with exception of the 4ad, I haven't experienced any lethargy, I have been taking Trib in cycle so that may help. After the first week I went to 20mg a day, seemed to work better than 10mg, 10 mg around noon and 10mg around 10pm before bed.

I am going to start PCT next monday, I'm looking at 3 weeks of clomid and 4 weeks of novla (tamox), do you recommend using clen during PCT as well?

Also, they have a new product, LiquiDex.. it says it can replace both Clomid and Nolva, what do you guys think?

**birtcheh** · 02-23-2005, 02:36 PM

hey has anyone had m1t caps instead of tablets? i just did a 4week cycle and i gained like 8lbs but my strength didnt nearly go up as high as my first cycle..and they were tablets then. i even uped the dosage to 15mg instead of 10mg

**sgn** · 02-23-2005, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by birtcheh

strength didnt nearly go up as high as my first cycle

I think I remember NSA saying that the more cycles of M1T you do, the less effective they are. NSA, mind on clarifying?

**prolangtum** · 02-23-2005, 06:17 PM

The more cycles you do, regardless of drug, there becomes more diminishing returns.

**birtcheh** · 02-23-2005, 07:58 PM

alright thanks guys.. i thought iremember reading that but i wasn't to sure. i thought there could of been maybe a little difference being caps n not tablets or somethin. and btw.. this thread is laaaaarge!

**nsa** · 03-02-2005, 10:42 PM

Bump...

**Bleche** · 03-04-2005, 09:15 PM

Okay I went from 172 to 187.5 on cycle, consuming at least 3000 calories a day and as much protein as I could, I'm on PCT right now (this is the first time I have used the clomid/nolvadex combo - the same as in sample cycle) and I am experiencing pain in a muslce on the right side of my back and cramping like what I got when I did my first M1T cycle. I'll just be sitting there and BAM my side goes ape sh!t in spasms. Any suggestions? Anybody else run into this?

**Bleche** · 03-04-2005, 11:32 PM

Okay I went from 172 to 187.5 on cycle, consuming at least 3000 calories a day and as much protein as I could, I'm on PCT right now (this is the first time I have used the clomid/nolvadex combo - the same as in sample cycle) and I am experiencing pain in a muslce on the right side of my back and cramping like what I got when I did my first M1T cycle. I'll just be sitting there and BAM my side goes ape sh!t in spasms. Any suggestions? Anybody else run into this?

**prolangtum** · 03-05-2005, 12:00 AM

Drink plenty of water and just monitor it. If it gets worse, then start worrying.

**nsa** · 03-09-2005, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Bleche

Okay I went from 172 to 187.5 on cycle, consuming at least 3000 calories a day and as much protein as I could, I'm on PCT right now (this is the first time I have used the clomid/nolvadex combo - the same as in sample cycle) and I am experiencing pain in a muslce on the right side of my back and cramping like what I got when I did my first M1T cycle. I'll just be sitting there and BAM my side goes ape sh!t in spasms. Any suggestions? Anybody else run into this?

If its a muscle cramping, then drink alot of water, taurine and potassium. That should solve the problem if it is a cramp.

If its an internal pain try and figure out exactly where it is. If its your kidneys, use cranberry extract and drink lots of water. If its your liver, use milk thistle or NAC.

If you think its the second point or if you do the stuff above and it doesn't get better, you should get checked out by your doctor. Be honest with the doctor, if you lie to them its only going to be hurting you in the long run. And they can't tell people your patient information anyways.

**nsa** · 03-14-2005, 07:58 PM

Bump

**nixfan712** · 03-15-2005, 05:34 PM

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**nixfan712** · 03-16-2005, 04:49 PM

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**nsa** · 03-16-2005, 05:08 PM

You could take l-dex with pct, but as an addition to nolvadex and clomid not as a replacement for nolvadex and clomid.

**nsa** · 03-16-2005, 05:10 PM

It helps if you know what the compounds actually do physiologically in your body. L-dex is an anti-aromatase, so it will stop test from converting to estrogen. IMO you still would need nolvadex and clomid.

**prolangtum** · 03-17-2005, 01:59 AM

I dont like AIs PC. They take estrogen dangerously low. Your HDL/LDL is already hurting from the M 1T. As NSA said, get nolvadex/clomid.

**Machin3** · 03-17-2005, 11:57 PM

yo Nsa im on day 4 doing 10mgs a day I can feel it like the effects

Im 5 10 and weight about 210 ish

Should i bump it up the 2nd week and 3rd week and so on?

Opinion plz?

**nsa** · 03-18-2005, 12:01 AM

Whats your body fat % and what is your cycle experience?

**Machin3** · 03-18-2005, 12:05 AM

bf is like 14-16ish kidna high cycle experience

umm 1-ad hahah just getting my feeet wet before summer comes around....

and how long does m1t stay in your system .. Is it detectable?

**SwollSooner315** · 03-18-2005, 12:24 AM

ok guys tell me what you think of this cycle

weeks 1-6: 900mg 1-AD, 400mg 4-AD
weeks 6-8: 15mg M-1T, 400mg 4-AD
PCT Novla, Clomid for 8 weeks

Any changes or suggestions?

**SwollSooner315** · 03-18-2005, 12:39 AM

im actually in week 4 of this cycle....my strength has gone through the roof and im noticing my arms are bigger...ive done a cycle of 1-ad alone before and i gained 13lbs....soo hopefully i can expect the same type of results

**SwollSooner315** · 03-18-2005, 12:56 AM

also just a quick rundown of my stats:
height: 5'10
weight: 245-250lbs (changes daily)
arms: 18.5
forearms: 14.5
quads: 29
calves: 18.5
chest: 50
bodyfat %: i would say 14-16% (im getting it check next week)

**prolangtum** · 03-18-2005, 01:22 AM

Looks like you have a solid base, and are already having good gains with 1-ad. Expect more when you start M 1T. I would bump the calroies up slightly when you start the M1T, maybe 250-400 a day.

**SwollSooner315** · 03-18-2005, 02:24 AM

the 1-ad seems to be killing my sex drive. i started the 4-ad 3 days ago after i started to feel the sides from the 1-ad. should i bump up the dosage or will it take a few more days for the 4-ad to kick in? (note: im using the 4Derm transdermal)

**prolangtum** · 03-18-2005, 12:36 PM

give it acouple days, than bump it up.

**DevilsDeity** · 03-18-2005, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by SwollSooner315

the 1-ad seems to be killing my sex drive. i started the 4-ad 3 days ago after i started to feel the sides from the 1-ad. should i bump up the dosage or will it take a few more days for the 4-ad to kick in? (note: im using the 4Derm transdermal)

even with the 4-ad it did nothing to help my sex drive
Trib might help that a little but you probably wont see your drive comming back till pct.

**SwollSooner315** · 03-18-2005, 01:58 PM

alright guys thanks for the imput...i appreciate it

**SwollSooner315** · 03-24-2005, 02:28 AM

alright guys im fixing to order all of my stuff for PCT. How much clomid and novla should i take after i finish my current cycle?

**prolangtum** · 03-24-2005, 06:03 PM

Day 1 150mg clomid/40mg nolva
Day 2-4 100mg clomid/30mg nolva
Day 5-14 50mg clomid/20mg nolva

**nsa** · 03-24-2005, 07:05 PM

There are a few ways to run your pct. Pheedno is probably one of the most knowledgable when it comes to pct, you can check out his PCT thread in the pct forum. Or if you want to front load clomid, you can look around as there are numerous threads on front loading clomid along with nolvadex.

**SwollSooner315** · 03-26-2005, 08:47 AM

alright guys, thanks again!

**CoRnErBaCk_BlItZ** · 03-27-2005, 05:16 PM

just a quick q about milk thistle...
should it not be taking while ur on 10mg M1T as ive heard it interferes with protien synthesis...
but ive also heard u really need to run it while ur on M1t
any answers?

scanned the threads and couldn't see this anywhere..

**Ceasar** · 03-28-2005, 06:31 PM

Hey everyone, this is my first post but I've been reading the boards for about a year now.
I had bought M1T before the ban back in December thinking I may try it out later on ( I still needed some more natural development) but I didn't buy the 4-AD. I believe I've hit a plateu in my natural development and hoped to start a cycle. Is there any other product I can use in place of the 4-AD with my first cycle? Is 4-AD still being sold? I want to minimize lethargy if possible.

Thanks!
Ceasar

**RobbieG** · 03-29-2005, 10:27 AM

My third M1t cycle, third dbol.

WWeek 1, Dbol 3 days at 20 mg ED to jumpstart
Weeks 1-4: 10 mg ED of M1t
Weeks 1-4: 1500 mg ED of hawthorne berry extract

ED: 150 gr. Carbs plus regular food.
+ with my creatine, I use juice containing 70 gr. sugar ... that´s not in my 150 gr ED carbs.

7 % bf

**Bryan2** · 03-29-2005, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by CoRnErBaCk_BlItZ

just a quick q about milk thistle...
should it not be taking while ur on 10mg M1T as ive heard it interferes with protien synthesis...
but ive also heard u really need to run it while ur on M1t
any answers?

scanned the threads and couldn't see this anywhere..

Doesnt interfere with protein synthesis take 1000mg during and post cycle when taking orals.

**CoRnErBaCk_BlItZ** · 03-29-2005, 04:04 PM

Thanks Bryan for clearing that up

**nsa** · 04-03-2005, 01:40 PM

Bump.

**DevilsDeity** · 04-12-2005, 02:12 PM

bump

**hemidog66** · 04-24-2005, 11:19 AM

bump for the 700

**M@dm@n 9** · 05-03-2005, 08:46 AM

i think m1t works great...i gained 5 pounds a week and didnt use any post cycle except 6oxo and everything worked out fine for me.... good luck everyone

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