anyone seen anything new>? methyl depot? or anyone know what prohormones are replacing sd and pp?
anyone seen anything new>? methyl depot? or anyone know what prohormones are replacing sd and pp?
im curious to know tooo, i might take one in the late fall
you can still get PP but its like $50. you can get the knock offs for much cheaper.
Try Trenadrol by Kilo Sports or ProMagnon 25 by Peak Performance Labs. I'm currently on a ProMagnonn cycle and it's giving good results (It's very similar to Halodrol 50 by Gaspari)
J.B.
superdrol clones are still around
i have some trenadrol.. what does it actually do? and has anyone seen it work effectively from experience? and do yall think m1t is better than sd or pp?
Anabolic effects & dosing requirementsOriginally Posted by clapper3989
As fascinating as all this chemistry might be, you are probably much more interested in how well Superdrol is going to work. What you are going to gain, and how much it will take you to make these gains? The gains from Superdrol are very dry and lean, so numbers do not tell the whole story, but let us look at them nonetheless. According to the book values, Superdrol should be 20% as androgenic as the reference standard methyl-test, and 400-800% as anabolic, while M1T is 910-1600%, and Anadrol closer to 300%, while being twice as androgenic as Superdrol, mg for mg. So in theory, Superdrol should be half as anabolic as the same dosage of M1T, and 10-20% as androgenic. This would mean that it should take twice the dosage of Superdrol to match the anabolic effects of M1T, at which dosage its androgenic side-effects would be 20-40% of those from M1T. Fortunately in the case of Superdrol it exceeds in practice its theoretical promise. All testers – who were selected in part because of their experience with M1T – found that the muscle gains produced from Superdrol were no less than 2/3 of what a comparable dose of M1T would have given them. Moreover, they found very few side-effects to complain about.
What this means for you is that you will need somewhere between 10 and 40mg of Superdrol per day. Period. There was, certainly, a desire to get this product to market before the ban, but because we were able to keep its chemistry secret, competition did not force it to be rushed, as was the case with M-Dien. Accordingly, proper testing was carried out, allowing us to determine real world dosing recommendations, not ballpark theoretical numbers. The following recommendations are honest and accurate: 10-15mg will be sufficient for beginners under 200lbs; 20-25mg for those advanced lifters under 200lbs, or for those above 200lbs but untrained; 30-35mg for men who have seriously trained themselves but are under 240lbs. For men who think they need to run a dose which falls between the use of whole capsules, one extra 10mg capsule can be taken before workouts, such that the weekly average is appropriate. as a rule of thumb, Superdrol will require 50% more of a dose than M1T to give you comparable gains in muscle. Any women who are entertaining the possibility of using Superdrol should reduce the weight to accord with their sex and their height, and then divide these dosages by a factor of no less than ten. Capsules will then have to be diluted in liquid to be measured accurately. For men, 40mg is a dose only for the very large or the true non-responders, by which I mean people who do not see results on less than 30mg of M1T. Very few people will need 40mg of Superdrol, and no one will need above 50mg. If used in a stack reduce the daily dose by 5-10mg, which would be very prudent given how well Superdrol will stack, and if not its expense, then your very limited supply.
might b wrong thread but here goes. done 5 cycles of sd and wanna take the next step toward something stronger like dbol or eq but dont hit anything without guidanced. can anyone tell me how they went about their "first time"? thanx 4 your help
Start a new thread in the steroid forum and you'll get more people to answer your question..Originally Posted by violator1
Originally Posted by violator1
spend more time on the AAS forums. there are actually a lot of decent internet sources these days.
i heard that legal gear methyl masterdrol is the same as superdrol but iam not sure about this!
I did a cycle of Halodrol 50 and it gave me tremendous results! This stuff rocks! It is a little pricey, but i found some online for $47.
You can look for generic labz products, they are cheap and also are the same ingredients as like PP and LMG. My friend is on the Generic Labz mega trn right now and it seems to be working for him pretty good.
bump..
want to hear more opinions on good ph's out
do a search.
hey man. just checkin this thead and wanted to toss up some info. i was talkin to a buddy of mine who was using some halodrol and was gettinnice lean gains, i was impressed with his results to say the least. i looked up the stuff and found it wasnt around anylonger in most places and figured id run down to my supp place and asked the dudes there what was closest to this and he told me methandrol 50 . i decided to give it a try and test it for my self and since ive takin it from last weds til today i have to say i feel stronger already. today alone i repped more weight for more reps and havnt changed anything beside adding some supps.. do a search on that and also mega zol.. im runnin that along with it for a month to see what happens..
Does ProMagnon/Halodrol cause hairloss?
I took it and didn't notice a thing. If I did lose hair it was so negligent that one couldn't even notice.
oxodrol same substance as superdrol. I just ordered some. the pills are 12 mg vs 10 for the superdrol im only going to take two per day for a month
most the things listed suchy as SD, PP, etc are steroids. What are some good PROhormones?
i was looking today and seen that juggernaut has some new (or aleast new to me) prohormones out one which is called"TRENX" (Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione)
and they have "winZtrol" chem name is the below( [3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol). see my question is has anyone tried these, had a friend that has tried them, or just heard something about them, i geuss any info on them you have would be helpful. thanks
Those are new, I haven't heard about them yet.Originally Posted by Rip it
Trenx is the same thing as finigenx: FiniGenX Magnum contains 25 mg per 6 ml of Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione microencapsulated in a liposome delivery system (Patent Pending), just different dosage form. Finigenx is dosed low and pricey.Originally Posted by Rip it
1-test : still the king.
Originally Posted by cfiler
you have not tried superdrol then.
Originally Posted by korexite
superdrol is half of what m1t is.
Originally Posted by tinyguy2
Isnt that rat poision?
Plus, u cant buy it anywhere. damn. But Tiny, if you know, hit me up.
hhhhmmm...should I be posting this?
yeah its not available. i was basically jsut stating that superdrol isn't the greatest thing since whey protein. M1t being toxic is grossly overstated in my opinion. There hasn't been any studies showing how bad certain methyl's really are for your liver in the long term especially if you do only a few short cycles. Sure your liver values elevate but that is only while on. Liver values also don't mean your liver is acctually getting destroyed there are other mechanisms involved. I've read this on a couple websites a while back.
BUMP THIS! You know your right and I also know this is true from my own experience. Workouts from hell, good diet and recovery, proper PCT and your set. Wish I could get more of it . . . damn it! man.Originally Posted by tinyguy2
ill officially end the debate between m1t and sd come januaryOriginally Posted by WidowMaker
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just got done w/ a very successful sd cycle...a few years back i ran m1t but didnt get results as good as what i got w/ sd because i was a stoopid 18yr old noob![]()
if you guys want any, go to www.DiscountAnabolics.com they got a ton of PP/SD knock offs for cheap
anyone try phera bol by juggernaut?
pher bol is the same as phera-plex, havent used it but same chemical make up as phera-plex
Exact same thing as phera plex, but u get 30 more, 90ct oppose to 60, plus they are only $20!
thats what i thought thanks, juggernaut also makes tren-x which looks pretty interesting... anyone try it?
Superior Nutraceuticals sells Superdrol..A raw methyl masteron
from China.. Any one taken it?? Personally I bought 5 bottles for $20 and will sell them for $45 around my way..
There is always the legal issue. People such as myself can not afford to take the chance with illegal compounds. I work in the pharmaceutical industry, and any drug conviction (or any felony), I am through. Waste of 6 years of college and great professional career. It is still legal to have sd, pp etc. They have not been scheduled as of now.
Originally Posted by sock
Well yeah, if thats the case, and you dont wanna risk anything. Pro hormones are the way to go if you want to.
kyjelly - I should have noted, legal issues besides; I agree with you. Gear is the way to go. (I am stuck with taking greater health risks.) Tons of data has been generated regarding safety and efficacy of gear. There is no long term studies that I know of for ph's or designer roids. I am really curious to the type of safety and tox studies done on compounds such as sd, pp etc. Another concern is long term storage, particularly for people who stock pile. Degradates can be more toxic than parent molecule.
it isi cant wait till monday!!
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