The How To Use Caber Thread

[CHUCKYthentic]

alright dukkit got a question for you... great info by the way...

ok im running tren a for the 1st time in this cycle im on, 12 week cycle with test e and var in the beginning

tren a will be added week 5-12 and i plan on running caber during @ .25mg E3D

so my Q is.... do i continue to run caber at the end of my cycle (weeks btwn end and start of pct)? And do i continue it aaaall the way through the 4 weeks of my PCT?

what do you suggest? Thanks

[Dukkit]

alright dukkit got a question for you... great info by the way...

ok im running tren a for the 1st time in this cycle im on, 12 week cycle with test e and var in the beginning

tren a will be added week 5-12 and i plan on running caber during @ .25mg E3D

so my Q is.... do i continue to run caber at the end of my cycle (weeks btwn end and start of pct)? And do i continue it aaaall the way through the 4 weeks of my PCT?

what do you suggest? Thanks

first time running tren... how bout first time running a 19-nor? any previous deca use?

you dont NEED to run the caber after you end the Tren. But as i stated in the main post... i prefer to run caber the whole way into my PCT. not because it helps with recovery. but it helps with the mental and sexual aspects of PCT. it can help keep the sex drive up and functioning during PCT. which i think is one aspect of ppl getting depressed during PCT on top of the hormone imbalances.

you could stop the caber same time as the tren. and if your so inclined start it again when you start pct

it wont hurt

[CHUCKYthentic]

makes sense. thats what i was initially planning, stopping it after the tren a clears my system then adding it in PCT if i feel necessary. but honesly ive never had ED problems or significant depression in PCT

1st time w 19nor... last cycle was suppose to include deca but it fell through

[Dukkit]

makes sense. thats what i was initially planning, stopping it after the tren a clears my system then adding it in PCT if i feel necessary. but honesly ive never had ED problems or significant depression in PCT

1st time w 19nor... last cycle was suppose to include deca but it fell through

well not everyone gets prolactin problems from caber. so you could keep the caber on hand and cycle without it. keeping track of your sides and if needed. use the caber

what dose of tren you planning on running?

[CHUCKYthentic]

ya ive got the caber...go figure its the damn liquid too

startin with 50mg ED... may work it up to 60mg ED, 70mg very max for this cycle

In your opinion, what is the very 1st sign of prolactin problems thatll tell me to start the caber?

[Dukkit]

ya ive got the caber...go figure its the damn liquid too

startin with 50mg ED... may work it up to 60mg ED, 70mg very max for this cycle

In your opinion, what is the very 1st sign of prolactin problems thatll tell me to start the caber?

from my experience and ppl ive known that have had problems...

your erection goin soft in the middle of sex. and either not getting hard again or being difficult to get hard again

thats usually the first sign

or just a lack of sex drive. but thats not always a good way to measure. i have found that my sexy drive is lower while on cycle. thats just me though.

how much test you going to run?

lactating wont happen. especially at your doses that your plannin for the tren.

[CHUCKYthentic]

good to know on the lactating

ive never had erection or sex drive problems on or off cycle, i guess im lucky there

im running 600mg test e, currently in week 4, along with 70mg var up til week 6

1st time with var, and finding out if i ever use it again it would be in a cutting cycle and at the tail end

lookin for lean mass here in this cycle, want to get to 215

[Dukkit]

good to know on the lactating

ive never had erection or sex drive problems on or off cycle, i guess im lucky there

im running 600mg test e, currently in week 4, along with 70mg var up til week 6

1st time with var, and finding out if i ever use it again it would be in a cutting cycle and at the tail end

lookin for lean mass here in this cycle, want to get to 215

cool.
i prefer to run my test doses lower while on 19-nors. seems to keep the sides at bay which allows me to run the 19-nor higher and in turn get great gains with less sides.

and var is def more of a cuttin cycle drug

[CHUCKYthentic]

ya next cycle im considering test p and npp maybe an oral in the beginning and/or end... would actually like to keep the test on the lower end and let the 19nor be the hero there

last 2 times ive attempted to run prop i got horrible test flu both times!

[Dukkit]

ya next cycle im considering test p and npp maybe an oral in the beginning and/or end... would actually like to keep the test on the lower end and let the 19nor be the hero there

last 2 times ive attempted to run prop i got horrible test flu both times!

ive found i get test flu from longer esters of test. not so much prop

but ive gotten to the point where i mega dose on vitamin c at the beginning of a cycle and it keeps the test flu either away or lesser of a pain in the ass

try that next time

[CHUCKYthentic]

great idea

ya i got it both times ive attempted to kickstart with prop so ill have to keep that in mind

thanks a lot bro for all the info, appreciate it

[Dukkit]

anytime man.

be sure to keep me up to date on your cycle progress. im always curious to hear about ppls experiences. its how we learn. lol

[CHUCKYthentic]

will do

next cycle i plan on keeping a log too

[NR2.0]

Dukkit,
My Test-E/Deca cycle doses were 500mgs of Test/ 300 to 400 mgs of Deca a weeks. (300 first cycle and 400 second cycle.)

I was going to pin every 36 hours just cause of my schedule, but I am hearing ed pinning is better with acetate for the control of sides. So I am starting Sunday maybe I will just pin ed. i dont mind the injections actually like them, they are a motivator!!!

I was only going to run 75mgs an inject cause it was my first run of Tren but I will increase if the dose is to light and if there really would be no difference in chance of sides.

If I pin ed then I would go....

Weeks 1-12
Test-P ( like 75mgs ed? 525mgs a weeks? is that ok? or is that too much?)

Weeks 1-10
Tren-A ??? What would be a sufficient dose ed?
And I guess I will just run the B6 at 200 mgs ed??? Or should I run the Adex??? and only take the Caber if needed? Again I have everything on hand already in liquid form (Adex, Caber, Nolva and Clomid)

Again thank you in advance for your help!

[Dukkit]

Dukkit,
My Test-E/Deca cycle doses were 500mgs of Test/ 300 to 400 mgs of Deca a weeks. (300 first cycle and 400 second cycle.)

I was going to pin every 36 hours just cause of my schedule, but I am hearing ed pinning is better with acetate for the control of sides. So I am starting Sunday maybe I will just pin ed. i dont mind the injections actually like them, they are a motivator!!!

I was only going to run 75mgs an inject cause it was my first run of Tren but I will increase if the dose is to light and if there really would be no difference in chance of sides.

If I pin ed then I would go....

Weeks 1-12
Test-P ( like 75mgs ed? 525mgs a weeks? is that ok? or is that too much?)

Weeks 1-10
Tren-A ??? What would be a sufficient dose ed?
And I guess I will just run the B6 at 200 mgs ed??? Or should I run the Adex??? and only take the Caber if needed? Again I have everything on hand already in liquid form (Adex, Caber, Nolva and Clomid)

Again thank you in advance for your help!

i would def say to pin ED. your gains and sides will be much better.

running both the prop and tren at 75 ED is a good dose for both.

pinning 75mg a day of tren instead of 75 every 36 hours will make your dose 525mg a week instead of 345 or whatever. big difference but in a good way. lol

especially for first run with tren.

i would maybe say run the tren for 8 weeks. just cuz its your first time. and 8 weeks of tren a is a nice cycle.
and then maybe run the prop for 10 weeks

this way you can see how hard it shuts you down and how you react to it.

take the b6 if you like. keep the caber on hand. no need for the adex IMO

[NR2.0]

OK will do on he B6, but the Caber seems to me to be worth taking the whole time...By reading what your saying I am like sold on the Caber and WANT to take it lol....Would that be a bad thing????

And I just read about the Test Flu, I never had a problem with it whe I ran the Test E, but I am going to do the Vitamin C thing...How much Vit. C should I take and for how long???

So I will follow your advise and go....

Weeks 1-10 Test P 75mgs ed
Weeks 1-8 Tren A 75mgs ed.
B6 200 mgs ed and load up on Vitamin C with the dose you provide and for the time.

Orrrr I can run the Caber the whole time....instead of the B6 what do you think.

My pct will start 3 days after last Prop injection Nolva and Clomid...for 4 weeks.

[Dukkit]

OK will do on he B6, but the Caber seems to me to be worth taking the whole time...By reading what your saying I am like sold on the Caber and WANT to take it lol....Would that be a bad thing????

And I just read about the Test Flu, I never had a problem with it whe I ran the Test E, but I am going to do the Vitamin C thing...How much Vit. C should I take and for how long???

So I will follow your advise and go....

Weeks 1-10 Test P 75mgs ed
Weeks 1-8 Tren A 75mgs ed.
B6 200 mgs ed and load up on Vitamin C with the dose you provide and for the time.

Orrrr I can run the Caber the whole time....instead of the B6 what do you think.

My pct will start 3 days after last Prop injection Nolva and Clomid...for 4 weeks.

personally i love caber so id run that over the b6 whole cycle. lol

just not tryin to force anyone to take more compounds then they need

i usually take 5g a day of vitamin c. which is alot normally. then while startin a cycle or feeling under the weather i can go to 8 - 10 g or so.

until i feel like im not gettin sick or im a few weeks into cycle. then i lower back to 5g

so if you dont take alot of vitamin c now. id go with 5g a day for the beginning of cycle.

[NR2.0]

im sold on the caber man...

How should I take it for the whole cycle and what would be a good dose???

[Dukkit]

im sold on the caber man...

How should I take it for the whole cycle and what would be a good dose???

.25mg on monday and same again on thursday would work

if you have the liquid version that im thinkin of

then it comes with a dropper

the dropper is 1ml. and the stuff is dosed at .50mg a ml,

so half the dropper 2 times a week

[NR2.0]

yes the the caber and all my PCTs are liquid form purchased online.

I am going to just go with the Caber for the whole cycle....and I should run that dose the whole time including into my PCT or should I stop it when the Tren stops and begin it again with my pct 17 days after last tren inject?

[bernimx]

im sold on the caber man...

How should I take it for the whole cycle and what would be a good dose???

did you read the thread..? he mentionned all that already.

[Dukkit]

yes the the caber and all my PCTs are liquid form purchased online.

I am going to just go with the Caber for the whole cycle....and I should run that dose the whole time including into my PCT or should I stop it when the Tren stops and begin it again with my pct 17 days after last tren inject?

you can stop it when you stop the tren and start it again on first day of pct if you like

did you read the thread..? he mentionned all that already.

lol
now now. i got nothing but time on my hands.

well until 4pm eastern standard time. then im off for the weekend. hahah

[CHUCKYthentic]

PCT should start 14 days after last test e injection, not 17

as for the caber you can continue it up to and through pct, u can stop it after tren then start it again in pct, or u can just stop it after tren and not use it anymore... you choice and whatever you need

he expalins that to me in an early post, a few above yours

[bernimx]

lol
now now. i got nothing but time on my hands.

well until 4pm eastern standard time. then im off for the weekend. hahah

Yea but still...

[Dukkit]

PCT should start 14 days after last test e injection, not 17

as for the caber you can continue it up to and through pct, u can stop it after tren then start it again in pct, or u can just stop it after tren and not use it anymore... you choice and whatever you need

he expalins that to me in an early post, a few above yours

thanks

Yea but still...

your right. if i was on tren right now id be a complete asshole and tell you fukkers to read the thread.

hahahah

but im in a good mood today

[CHUCKYthentic]

haha dukkit this thread feels like a seminar...like you re just sitting in here preaching and answering Qs

wheres the damn snack table? LOL

[NR2.0]

OK OK OK relax we were conversating....Just being sure....Remember the only dumb question is the the one not asked.

And as far as PCT goes I am running Test Prop, so PCT starts 3 days after last Prop injection, so if I stopped the Caber with the Tren I would resume it 17 days after last Tren Inject....

Thanks for all the info and good luck to all...

NR

[Dukkit]

haha dukkit this thread feels like a seminar...like you re just sitting in here preaching and answering Qs

wheres the damn snack table? LOL

haha. i need a soda!!

OK OK OK relax we were conversating....Just being sure....Remember the only dumb question is the the one not asked.

And as far as PCT goes I am running Test Prop, so PCT starts 3 days after last Prop injection, so if I stopped the Caber with the Tren I would resume it 17 days after last Tren Inject....

Thanks for all the info and good luck to all...

NR

its all good. we just messing.

sounds good. let us know how it goes!

[NR2.0]

I kno I kno

Thanks for all the info though!

I am starting the cycle on Sunday and will post my progress in the forum and try to do some photos too.

[TITANIUM]

Excellent post!BUMP!

[jrmy]

good info of course
quick question though duk,have you ever used caber by itself?
i had had mildly elevated prolactin levels before and was prescribed bromo.
my nipps are starting to hurt again as before,so my question being
since caber also lowers igf-1 and growth hormone,do you think taking caber while trying to work out will affect my gains
caber would be the only thing id be using,no aas or deca or tren.trying to do all natural this time,but i think my prolactin is going up again,so of course i need that checked.
i was thinking of using l-dopa instead,(of course if my prolactin is really high,which im pretty sure it is.)
any input would be great,thanks in advance

[Dukkit]

good info of course
quick question though duk,have you ever used caber by itself?
i had had mildly elevated prolactin levels before and was prescribed bromo.
my nipps are starting to hurt again as before,so my question being
since caber also lowers igf-1 and growth hormone,do you think taking caber while trying to work out will affect my gains
caber would be the only thing id be using,no aas or deca or tren.trying to do all natural this time,but i think my prolactin is going up again,so of course i need that checked.
i was thinking of using l-dopa instead,(of course if my prolactin is really high,which im pretty sure it is.)
any input would be great,thanks in advance

i have used caber by itself many times

no hinderance to my training, strength or weight gain.

so youve had blood work and your prolactin came back out of normal range?
how long and what dose was your bromo prescribed?

im curious cuz ive never had sore or itchy nips from prolactin/progesterone gyno

only bumps and nipple leakage.

so id say run some caber, l-dopa, Vit B6

but also get your estrogen checked

may be another underlying problem on top of the prolactin

[JuliusPleaser]

I took cabaser and it didn't do shit that it was supposed to do...i think its hyped up...no multiple sex sessions, nothing of that sort at all

[Dukkit]

I took cabaser and it didn't do shit that it was supposed to do...i think its hyped up...no multiple sex sessions, nothing of that sort at all

what form did you take? liquid. pill?

what dose?

and were you on cycle or no?

everyones different bro. same for any compound

[jrmy]

i have used caber by itself many times

no hinderance to my training, strength or weight gain.

so youve had blood work and your prolactin came back out of normal range?
how long and what dose was your bromo prescribed?

im curious cuz ive never had sore or itchy nips from prolactin/progesterone gyno

only bumps and nipple leakage.

so id say run some caber, l-dopa, Vit B6

but also get your estrogen checked

may be another underlying problem on top of the prolactin

thank you for your response.the prolactin problem was in the past,and it was slightly elevated.he prescribed 1 mg a day,and i ended up stopping the bromo because i had bad diziness and was easily brusing.

from ther it hasnt come back until after i cycled 250 of sus and did my pct which consisted of 20 mg of nolvadex for 8 wks.right after the pct,i had a little lump on my left breast like it was in the past a few yrs back.the reason i asked u this question is bacause if i do have elevated prolactin,i want to be prescribed caber instead of bromo.i was wondering if maybe l-dopa would work by itself since it hinder prolactin realease,and from my searches,actually increases growth hormone release.as soon as i am insured(in the process of doing so) i am getting the whole shibang,testosterone checked,estrodial,t3,igf,and go from ther.im pretty sure its my prolactin though,and was just wondering your results with it.you answered my question straight up,and for that,i do appreciate it.thanks man!

[redz]

I took cabaser and it didn't do shit that it was supposed to do...i think its hyped up...no multiple sex sessions, nothing of that sort at all

I can tell you it is possible to orgasm more than once on this stuff. Its rare but it can happen. One time I thought I popped but it just went back to feeling good and we kept going another 15 mins or so but i have only had it happen twice I think.

[Tarheel]

hey one8nine, how would you rate that prop/tren/masteron/var cycle? That is a dream cycle for me! The ultimate cutting cycle..damn

[RANA]

hey one8nine, how would you rate that prop/tren/masteron/var cycle? That is a dream cycle for me! The ultimate cutting cycle..damn

one8nine was banned, not sure why

[marcus300]

This is a good thread, good read

[Matt]

Not seen this before dukki, great thread...