Moderate Dose Short Cyles - Steroids for Health!

[Swifto]

Yah, ive read threads on hcg but i guess i dont totally understand it. i assumed that it helped maintain regular levels of testosterone along with libido/testicular size. Thats where the question came from...

So in your opinion, HCG wouldn't be necessary while "on" a short cycle but would be better suited during pct?

I have never done a short cycle and Marcus will be better educated on this subject, I feel.

I dont see the point in HCG in a short cycle, if short cycles theorists claims are correct and HPTA inhibition/shutdown is limited. If you are inhibited/shutdown using a short cycle, it would be minimal and testicular shrinkage short lived, so why use HCG when PCT is around the corner?

Use it for PCT IMHO.

[marcus300]

I have never done a short cycle and Marcus will be better educated on this subject, I feel.

I dont see the point in HCG in a short cycle, if short cycles theorists claims are correct and HPTA inhibition/shutdown is limited. If you are inhibited/shutdown using a short cycle, it would be minimal and testicular shrinkage short lived, so why use HCG when PCT is around the corner?

Use it for PCT IMHO.

I agree, no need unless you suffer from shrinkage but for me when i do one i always use it for the last ten days but thats just me,

[armbar83]

Honestly, this type of cycling sounds great to me because I don't like to gain massive amounts of weight, and prefer to do lower/mod dose cycles.

I'd rather gain small spurts of quality lbm and keep fat and recovery time lower while using aas ability to heal me up faster while training.

I was wondering if/what other compounds/combinations would you recommend for this type of cycling?

I use aas for sports not bb, so would OT or mast be good additions?

Would you stack 2 compounds along with the test? And if so what combinations would be most synergistic?

Personally, tren was to harsh for me, so I am glad to hear its not worth including.

Sorry for all the questions...

Thanks!

[AleX-69]

Honestly, this type of cycling sounds great to me because I don't like to gain massive amounts of weight, and prefer to do lower/mod dose cycles.

I'd rather gain small spurts of quality lbm and keep fat and recovery time lower while using aas ability to heal me up faster while training.

I was wondering if/what other compounds/combinations would you recommend for this type of cycling?

I use aas for sports not bb, so would OT or mast be good additions?

Would you stack 2 compounds along with the test? And if so what combinations would be most synergistic?

Personally, tren was to harsh for me, so I am glad to hear its not worth including.

Sorry for all the questions...

Thanks!

A list fo the steroids i personally would use in a short cycle keeping you goals in mind:

Test Propionate
Winny
Anavar
Oral Turinabol
Masteron
Halo (not for beginners)

I am not a fan of stacking more than
3 compounds together. That is IF those compounds are working through diffrent pathways (i.e. Test as Base, a DHT derative, a Nor-based Compound). In the list i provided above there is Test Prop as Base and all other compounds are DHT based (more or less) so i don't think it is worth stackin' more than 2 of these compounds.

[marcus300]

A list fo the steroids i personally would use in a short cycle keeping you goals in mind:

Test Propionate
Winny
Anavar
Oral Turinabol
Masteron
Halo (not for beginners)

I am not a fan of stacking more than
3 compounds together. That is IF those compounds are working through diffrent pathways (i.e. Test as Base, a DHT derative, a Nor-based Compound). In the list i provided above there is Test Prop as Base and all other compounds are DHT based (more or less) so i don't think it is worth stackin' more than 2 of these compounds.

this is what ive found aswell, 3 compounds what mix well with each other is all you need,

[Anabolic1234]

Do you all lose around half the gains?

[monkeyboy1215]

Hey I just wanted to say thanks for all the time you put into this thread. Very informative and as for myself, I have never done anything but some stuff from GNC several years ago and I cant seem to get enough info. And that is why I am here, I am not going to kill my self bcuz I am uneducated. "Ignorance is no excuse" So again THANX A BUNCH!!!!

[armbar83]

thanks guys, i appreciate the help

[armbar83]

thanks guys

[skillinz]

okay I'll bite...

So I'm a newbie (0 cycles to date) and am interested in the short cycles approach. The plus of it being healthier while still having a positive impact on your training is appealing. I however have a little different goal.

I've been training pretty steady for almost 2.5yrs now and have went from 6' 150lbs w/ 8% body fat to 200lbs with ~15% body fat. I am not looking to gain anymore but rather cut my body fat down to 10% (or less).

I lift 5x a week with hard cardio 3-5x a week and eat very lean (maybe not enough). So I feel I'm doing good already and am just looking for an extra boost to help me cut down to my goal body fat.

My trainer suggested Winny with Deca and I looked around and finally found a site that seemed credible so I ordered just one dose to see if it was legit. Everything appears to check out based on what I've read, now I just need to figure out what my cycle should look like.

I found one cycle I'm interested in (below) but could really use some advise if this is the correct approach or if a short cycle might work better. Your comments are greatly appreciated...


Week Winny mg/week Primobolan mg/week Clenbuterol tabs/day
---- --------------- -------------------- ---------------------
1 100 100 1 tab - 3 times a day
2 200 100 1 tab - 3 times a day
3 200 200
4 300 200
5 300 300 1 tab - 3 times a day
6 200 200 1 tab - 3 times a day
7 200 200
8 100 100
9 1 tab - 3 times a day
10 1 tab - 3 times a day



Edit - The cycle above isn't formatting right so here's a link to a better looking version http://www.anabolicsteroidspharma.com/cycles.htm go down to #6


Thanks,
-B