Steroid Usage Basics For Beginers. 101

[DF2003]

nice read bro!

[GREENMACHINE]

Wow great post. Very well written I can see myself visiting this post again it has everthing. Top drawer.

[DF2003]

yea i think this should be a sticky or a must read in the new members.

[live2ball]

Thanks for all the useful info doc.
I learned a lot!

[chukronos]

bump

[Bartleby]

nice post...great info and easy to read

[Devourer]

nice post doc.

[gatsby18]

good Info, Helps you understand how important it is to be safe.

[XxElitexX]

Great post man. thank you.

[Consistency]

BUMP BUMP BUMP, this will answer all new guys question about a first cycle

[soo2bhuge]

awesome post! can never get enough of the basics!

[YZ250]

Thanks for the info.....

[DWayne]

good stuff....bump to top

[Dude-Man]

Bump. if you see this doc, and you feel up to is you might want to list side effects and counter-indications for steroids. (resons why you shouldn't use them if you're young or have a medical condition)

[DocHoliday]

Updated 01/13/04 at 2:17pm Eastern US

I listed some, but did not get into the reasons why young people should not take them. That should be its own thread.

Thanks for your input Chris.

Bump for more input.

Doc

[Jackman]

That should be a sticky haha good job

[BWhitaker]

bump, im on my laptop but have no printer for a couple of hours and im just to lazy to cut and copy. lol

[EXTREMES]

Bump

[iron4life79]

i'll bump it for ya bro..........


i'll leave this here a little while longer, then i'm moving it to the edu forum........this cool with you Doc?

peace I4L

[DocHoliday]

i'll bump it for ya bro..........


i'll leave this here a little while longer, then i'm moving it to the edu forum........this cool with you Doc?

peace I4L

That’s fine with me. Thanks guys. My writing is going to fall off quite a bit. I need to start focusing on my school work.

Doc

[Fartdaemon]

I'll give it another BUMP!

Good Luck with your school bro,

FD

[bluepearl]

I have been digging around in several diffferent post. This one is very well written and offers alot of details. Thanks Bro!

[LilVito469]

is there some one who can tell me if a site I know of is a scam or not? it doesn't seem to be on the scam list.

[DocHoliday]

back to the top

[DF2003]

hey jj were you going to do that for me?

[DocHoliday]

Update


Added Aratest to the Clomid time/duration chart.

[BLACKZILLA]

Doc....Absolutely outstanding post. Bump for anyone who hasn't read it. There is probably some info that everyone can use, regardless of how long they've been in the game. Thanks...

[LightWeightBaby]

This is a great post thought I might as well bump it up for all the new people here

[Dude-Man]

bumping

[Jackt23]

i do have to say this was an impressive thread...i just read it for the first time and answered many questions i still have.....this should definately be at the top so all the newbies can see it...lord knows searching is too much haha

[50%Natural]

it should be posted in every male locker room in every gym in america...well maybe not, but its still a great post

[Jackt23]

no 50 i think you are right.....chances are 80% of them are members on here anyway hahaha

[BuffGuy]

I think this was an awesome post. It should enter the hallowed Education Threads Forum.

I was wondering if you could add some stuff on basic cutting cycles for beginners since you seem to focus on bulking ones...

[Jackt23]

thats a good point buff guy...im lookin to do a cut cycle for my next one and with the extent of info on this one.....if the same was added for cutting id feel alot better planning it out and doing it

[DocHoliday]

Cutting? What's that? I'll work on it guys.

Doc

[Jackt23]

thanks doc, sounds good....just to let ya know.....i just had a friend get in touch with me tonight after not talkin to me in awhile...asked me a few quesitons about a first cycle.....your post was the first i sent him to...again, good stuff

[Jjdigs74]

bump bump bump! great info doc!

[Jackt23]

i think this needs a bump....newbies can find much valuable info on here....i suggest this over the website, for cycle help....alot of them say sus but what ij ust learned is that it is better to run single ester like cyp or enanth...i wish i had this post when i started....may i suggest sticky??

[DocHoliday]

Updated 03/08/04 2:30am US eastern time. Added cuter and bulker cycles. They aren't the best cycles, but something I whipped up at 2:30 in the morning. Feel free to comment if changes are necessary.

[Swellin]

Okay Doc...this is an excellent post! Since you mentioned the new cycles...I took a look and thought I might mention a couple of very minor things...

2nd + timer cut cycles:

#1:
wk 1-14 Testosterone Propionate 50mg ed (or 100mg eod)
wk 1-13 Trenbolone Acetate 50mg ed (or 100mg eod)
wk 1-16 Nolvadex
wk 14-16 Clomid (started 3 days after last shot of prop)

Since tren can shut you down really hard...I like the idea of running a bit more prop than tren. Maybe go 75mg ED on the prop or 150 EOD.

#3:

wk 1-10 Testosterone Propionate
wk 1-10 Winstrol
wk 1-10 Trenbolone Acetate
wk 1-13 Nolvadex
wk 10-13 Clomid

Bro, you are alseep...there are no dosages listed in this one.
Also...anavar seems to be a really nice addition to the ole prop tren cycle for cutting. Just adding that to the list here.

Mass Cycles:

#2
wk 1-4 Testosterone Propionate 50mg ed (or 100mg eod)
wk 1-12 Sustanon 350-500mg ew
wk 1-10 Deca Durabolin
wk 6-14 Anavar 20-40mg ed
wk 11-15 Testosterone Propionate 50mg ed (or 100mg eod)

Just a Q on your sust dose. 350? This should also be administered at the longest E3D. Not 250 per week...250 EOD or at worst E3D. (I know you know all of this stuff...I'm just adding it to the post.)

Hell of a post Doc!