Diabetic Sample Diet

[doby48]

Please keep in mind that all diabetics or individuals with any type of medical condition should consult with their doctors and/or dieticians before changing their food intake. I am posting a sample diet below of what works for me as a diabetic. And a little background information for new diabetics or for those who deal with diabetics on a regular basis.

The first thing is to get a good healthy base diet and make subtle modifications from there.

Fat Intake
Make sure you are eating a lower fat and sodium diet similar to that of non-diabetics.

Carbohydrates
Here is where you really need to pay attention since this is what basically regulates your blood levels. When changing a diet be sure to really stick close to monitoring your blood sugar levels, and even increase the number of times per day that you check your levels. It is a good idea to check just before a workout too so you don't have problems during your workout after your body has kicked into high gear.

Simple Carbs such as sucrose, glucose or fructose, or food like candies, cakes, juices, non-diet soda, jelly, etc. should be avoided completely if possible or at least eaten in very very small quantities. The reason for this is because they are rapidly absorbed and digested causing a sudden surge in your blood sugar which can cause problems. If you have a sweet tooth, then get some sugar free candies. There have been major imporvements to these in the last couple of years and the major chocolate companys now sell them as well. (Hersheys has sugar free chocolate bars & Reeses has sugar free peanut butter cups). Try to keep those at a minimum as well, but they will work to satisfy a sweet tooth without messing with your blood sugar levels.

Complex Carbs (including fiber) such as whole wheat or whole grain breads, whole wheat pasta, brown rice, beans, oats and veggies. Should be increased quite a bit over what a non-diabetic eats. These carbs are slowely absorbed and digested and helps to keep sugar levels stable for the most part. The best clean diets will consisist of high fiber foods and veggies. However, there are still differences to a diabetics diet over that of a non-diabetic with regards to complex carb intake.

Ok, onto some sample diet. Keep in mind this is structured for diabetics and has increased complex carbs as is essential in regulating blood sugar. I have personally had great success in sample diet below but each person is a bit different. You will still want to stick to the 5-6 meals a day, and I have listed snacks at the very end that can be eaten between the "normal" 3 meals a day.


Breakfast #1
Egg Beaters
Whey Protein with Fat Free, Low Carb Milk

Breakfast #2
Hard Boiled Eggs
Wheat Toast with I Can't Believe its Not Butter
Whey Protein

Breakfast #3
Plain oatmeal with water (not milk). Use fresh fruits or artificical sweetner for flavoring if desired.
Whey Protein (or consider mixing protein powder into oatmeal for flavor)


Lunch #1
Boneless/Skinless Chicken Breast, with whole wheat pasta
Broccolli

Lunch #2
Extra Lean Hamburger on Low Fat Whole Wheat or Muli-Grain bun
Asparagus

Lunch #3
Tuna on Low Fat Whole Wheat or Muli-Grain bread
Lima Beans

Dinner #1
Fish Fillets
Brown Rice
Green Beans

Dinner #2
Lean Ground Turkey
Multi-Grain Dinner Roll
Green Pepper

Dinner #3
Sirloin Steak
Baked Potato
Salad

Snack #1
Celery w/ Low Sugar Peanut Butter

Snack #2
Fresh Broccolli

Snack #3
Almonds

Snack #4
Whey Protein or MRP

Snack #5
Non-Fat Cottage cheese w/ protein powder

Snack #6
Tuna on Low Fat, Multi-Grain Crackers

[Elliot]

Good job, definetly a stickey

[LeanMeOut]

Great post!


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[slizzut]

great post, very informative.. should be a sticky

[XL721]

Cool, im goin to forward this to my friend whos diabetic. Hopefully with regular exercise and watching his diet he will stop having to inject himself with insulin. i worry about that mofo. awesome post.

[Mighty Joe]

Bump!

[Kärnfysikern]

Thanks alot, this info will be very good to know when helping my sister.

[chicamahomico]

This is a diet for insulin dependent diabetics, correct?

[doby48]

This is a diet for insulin dependent diabetics, correct?

Diet can be used for both insulin dependent and diet controlled diabetics. Keeping in mind that individuals may need slight modifications to suite their specific needs. The key to the diet being the higher complex carbs which helps maintain blood sugar levels, and avoiding simple carbs as much as possible as they will throw the blood sugar levels out of wack. Diabetics of either type need to try and keep these levels consistent.

[LeanMeOut]

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[Elliot]

bump..

[Elliot]

bump.. someone make this a sticky.. bdtr?

[LeanMeOut]

bump.. someone make this a sticky.. bdtr?

Sticky icky icky fo shizzle my nizzle.


Werd....


LOL no but seriously great post indeed needs to be "stuck"


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[Blown_SC]

Another great thread....
Great work Doby... will become helpful to many I'm sure...
Should be a sticky IMO...

[BDTR]

stuck.

[wildcatwrestler's]

thanx for the great post doby, i think that it will really help me help my wife.

[homeboybonanza]

Question:
What can I take POST WORKOUT? Should I have the simple sugar with protein like most are supposed to....Or is there a better way? I've been taking the dextrose and whey but I mix in some oats to steady my blood sugar. Is this ok? Is this wrong?
Please help!!!!!!!
-HB

[doby48]

Yeah you can have PWO, guess I forgot to include that in the post. My blood sugar gets really out of whack with Dextrose so I take Maltodextrine instead and it doesn't cause the huge spikes in my blood sugar... same ratio of 2:1 and just make sure to have good complex carbs in your PPWO meal. I know many people wait 45 min for PPWO, but I typically have it 30 min after workout cause after a good workout and PWO I need to make sure my blood sugar levels are stabilized.

If the Dextrose & Oats is working for you then you could keep taking it. However, I would suggesting trying Maltodextrine instead of Dextrose anyways and see how it affects your blood sugar, you may be able to ditch the Oats (or at least cut down on them) PWO. If you can get by without the Oats that would be best, but if you still need them to keep your sugar levels stabilized then keep them in PWO.

[BIGPHIL]

Im a diabetic and i get away easily with 10I.Us after training and that lets me take 100g carbs pure dextrose followed by a meal of potatoes containg 100g of more carbs..


HOw should diabetics go about combning good fats with carbs such as linseeds e.t.c should they be taken seperate

[doby48]

Most of my fats come from dinner and an evening protein shake. To get my EFAs I will fry veggies in Olive Oil with my dinner (green beans in olive oil with garlic powder is one of my favorites) and will also take a shake of Egg Protein with Flax just before going to bed. I also take one snack during the day with fat/proteins like Almonds.

[BIGPHIL]

Most of my fats come from dinner and an evening protein shake. To get my EFAs I will fry veggies in Olive Oil with my dinner (green beans in olive oil with garlic powder is one of my favorites) and will also take a shake of Egg Protein with Flax just before going to bed. I also take one snack during the day with fat/proteins like Almonds.

I take linseed seed in my oats in the morning and i take peanut butter at night befor bed somtimes..

Do you notice that they cause a slight raise in blood sugars...

HOw do you go about AM cardio

[doby48]

Yes, I have noticed my blood sugars elevated with them, and one of the reasons I avoid them until later in the day. My AM cardio I don't do on an empty stomch because my blood sugars do not stay stable. I first eat some carbs/protein wait about an hour and then do my AM cardio. Even something like a bowl of oatmeal before AM cardio helps to keep my sugars more stable.

[BIGPHIL]

Yes, I have noticed my blood sugars elevated with them, and one of the reasons I avoid them until later in the day. My AM cardio I don't do on an empty stomch because my blood sugars do not stay stable. I first eat some carbs/protein wait about an hour and then do my AM cardio. Even something like a bowl of oatmeal before AM cardio helps to keep my sugars more stable.

Thats weird because for me i can wake up with my blood sugars being usually borderline low like 4.5(i dont know wat reading you use in america) and i can do 45 min fine and they dont drop dramatically..But usually my blood is between 6.5-7.0 before i do it..I cut carbs an hour before i hit the bed and immmediately before bed take peanut butter and zma i feel this stablieses my blood sugar???/


As far as regards as burning fat in the morning on an empty stomach..How does it work with us?? are we just burning up blood sugar or what???/

what kind of supplements do you feel affect your control...For me chroium and alpha lipoic acid lower my blood sugar..on the other hand ephdrine and dirueticc, asprin raise my blood sugar....

[doby48]

I don't use insulin to my advantage for workouts. I have found that for me anyways, when I start messing around with different glucose levels for different types of things then I usually and up with a spike or dip later on when I really don't want it and then I end up with either not feeling well or having to eat things I should be eating (like cake to bring my levels up again ) Not good for the diet but does taste good sometimes. I usually though just try and keep mine tight as well.

I usually eat about every 3 hours or so as well. I have not tried having a protein shake in the middle of the night, are you having egg or whey and are you adding anything to it like flax, milk, or just water?

[BIGPHIL]

I don't use insulin to my advantage for workouts. I have found that for me anyways, when I start messing around with different glucose levels for different types of things then I usually and up with a spike or dip later on when I really don't want it and then I end up with either not feeling well or having to eat things I should be eating (like cake to bring my levels up again ) Not good for the diet but does taste good sometimes. I usually though just try and keep mine tight as well.

I usually eat about every 3 hours or so as well. I have not tried having a protein shake in the middle of the night, are you having egg or whey and are you adding anything to it like flax, milk, or just water?

I take just protein and water it keeps the aminos in the blood and keeps me anabolic..so to speak

i am hopefully going infor my show next year when im 19, i am learning as much as possible at the moment.lol i leave the computer every night with my head ringing with information lol


IM going to try and max out before i start any AAS,the amount of people telling me " I MUST" take juice if im going in for a show is endless they say everyone else will be on it and its crucial that i go on it.Whats your view on this??

IM well aware that they cause Glucose intolerance (insulin resistance)..Do you know anyother facts about aas...

I am worried about the situation and dont know what to do,,,,but no WAY AM I JUMPING STRAGIHT INTO USING JUICE WITHOUT KNOWING HOW IT WILL AFEECT ME E.T.C

[doby48]

The only other one that I have checked into is Anavar and that can lower blood sugar slightly and I hear that it doesn't even affect some diabetics. I don't have experience with that. To date I have not used any aas and am trying my best to keep it natural. I am a cyclist and aas use is monitored pretty closely (even creatine is not allowed in several circuits). If I take a year off I may consider using Anavar but so far have made it this far being natural.

[BIGPHIL]

The only other one that I have checked into is Anavar and that can lower blood sugar slightly and I hear that it doesn't even affect some diabetics. I don't have experience with that. To date I have not used any aas and am trying my best to keep it natural. I am a cyclist and aas use is monitored pretty closely (even creatine is not allowed in several circuits). If I take a year off I may consider using Anavar but so far have made it this far being natural.

yeah well ur lookin pritty TIGHT anyhow from ur pic...Yes i will definetly research this anavar(where did you read about it and diabetis)....you dont know anything about Deca???with regars to insulin resistance i think it may me only minor however if it isnt and causes dramatic rises in blood sugar,this will cause an increase in fat weight SURELY?

[doby48]

Anavar (Oxandrolone, Oxandrin) is an Anabolic Steriod and the family of Anablic Steroids are can cause a drop in blood sugar levels for diabetics. I can't find the really detailed descriptions I had read previously that explain exactly what happens medically speaking, but I did find an article that will give you a rough overview and some good information on Anablic Steroids in general.

http://www.iowaclinic.com/controller...view?id=202035

[BIGPHIL]

Anavar (Oxandrolone, Oxandrin) is an Anabolic Steriod and the family of Anablic Steroids are can cause a drop in blood sugar levels for diabetics. I can't find the really detailed descriptions I had read previously that explain exactly what happens medically speaking, but I did find an article that will give you a rough overview and some good information on Anablic Steroids in general.

http://www.iowaclinic.com/controller...view?id=202035

I found an interesting website...have a look and tell me what you think??

http://www.diabetesmonitor.com/steroids.htm

[doby48]

Interesting read, but keep in mind that these are not anabolic steroids. Each group of steroids will have a different impact as to how it affects your blood sugar. The medications in this article include conditions such as asthma and bronchitis, not saying that they are steroids but this is along the same lines as ephedrine as that is one of the key ingrediants used in treating those conditions, and as you already know from experience ephedrine (ephedra) can raise your blood sugar levels. There are different classes of medications that are classified as as "steroids" and each will impact your glucose levels different so be sure you are reading about the correct type before trying any out.

[Yellowknifer]

For the diabetics who are interested in taking Clen, in a word: I wouldn't recommend it.

I started my cycle yesterday and my bloodsugar hasn't been lower than 14 mmol/L which is way way outside my normal range. It has an insulin blocking effect. It clearly is a dangerous drug for diabetics. I have more than doubled my dosages of insulin trying to get them under control and nothing seems to work. It's a dangerous drug for diabetics to be taking imo. But maybe there is some kind of synergistic drug that can be taken with it to allow insulin to remain effective, I do not know. I am very curious as to how non diabetics react to it, but since I doubt most of them test their blood sugars regularly we may not really find out anytime soon. I am going to stop taking it immediately.

[BIGPHIL]

For the diabetics who are interested in taking Clen, in a word: I wouldn't recommend it.

I started my cycle yesterday and my bloodsugar hasn't been lower than 14 mmol/L which is way way outside my normal range. It has an insulin blocking effect. It clearly is a dangerous drug for diabetics. I have more than doubled my dosages of insulin trying to get them under control and nothing seems to work. It's a dangerous drug for diabetics to be taking imo. But maybe there is some kind of synergistic drug that can be taken with it to allow insulin to remain effective, I do not know. I am very curious as to how non diabetics react to it, but since I doubt most of them test their blood sugars regularly we may not really find out anytime soon. I am going to stop taking it immediately.

Thats weid I only got insulin resistance when i my doses of clen were high X10 NIHFI 0.02mcg tabs..This was in the morning only after AM cardio (and i always have insuilin resistance in the morning no matter what,resistance from clen was only up 6 points or so) however at night when i was cutting my carbs and relying on pro/carb meals my resistaance was minimum and clen infactsometimes lowered my sugars...
Yet again another example of how people are affected differently by drugs...Any other drugs you take that you get resistance from???

[oldnoob]

For the diabetics who are interested in taking Clen, in a word: I wouldn't recommend it.

I started my cycle yesterday and my bloodsugar hasn't been lower than 14 mmol/L which is way way outside my normal range. It has an insulin blocking effect. It clearly is a dangerous drug for diabetics. I have more than doubled my dosages of insulin trying to get them under control and nothing seems to work. It's a dangerous drug for diabetics to be taking imo. But maybe there is some kind of synergistic drug that can be taken with it to allow insulin to remain effective, I do not know. I am very curious as to how non diabetics react to it, but since I doubt most of them test their blood sugars regularly we may not really find out anytime soon. I am going to stop taking it immediately.

do use the glucometer to constantly monitor your blood sugar at least 6 times a day while on a cycle dude. cause usually while on juices etc, diabetics blood sugar tend to go way out of control. my cousin is diabetic (his my training partner too), during his cycle of test E at 500mg/week his glucose lvl was way out of control even when he tripled his dosage (he uses mixtard 70/30) n it did little help . mos of the time see him suffering from lethargy, freq urination, dry lips etc~~ under the advise of his doctor , he ceased his cycle after 2 weeks n thus then he begin to recover

[sharonbaker]

Very nice what you have shared that Diabetic Sample Diet. It was really very useful form me. Thanks for this efforts.

[Godson79]

wow lots of great info on here
ive used clen before and im a type 1 diabetic and it made it so my novarapid wouldnt work properly i had to just keep wacking it until it came down, i was up over 25 , i wouldnt recommend clenfor ppl with diabeties just from my own experiance.
ive also use sus250 and decca,primo , my appitie increased alot so my insulin did aswel but it didnt seem to jump of the charts.
i also find optimal level for training is at around 6 but the trick is to eat a hour before training and then get ur blood level to 6 and maintain the level 6 for that hour.
works for me i seem to be able to really push those weights

[Makhshev]

Doby48, great and informative post. I am a type 1 and have been going down the path of trying to balance it all out. What is your plane per-workout to ensure you don't drop during exercise? That is usually what I have a problem with.

[doby48]

Doby48, great and informative post. I am a type 1 and have been going down the path of trying to balance it all out. What is your plane per-workout to ensure you don't drop during exercise? That is usually what I have a problem with.

Balancing out your blood sugar levels with physical activity is probably the most difficult thing that I found. More so than even learning the normal daily intakes which is a lot of information. What I would suggest if you arent yet doing so is...

1) Dont take your insulin shortly before a workout.
2) Start up your diary again and test immediately before and after your workout
3) If your sugars are dropping low during a workout, take some carbs before hand, fruits are good such as a banana. See how your sugars are then after and go from there. You can tailor with different fruits as needed depending on your results.

Good luck and if you have more questions let me know either on this forum post or feel free to send me a PM as well.

[Makhshev]

any suggestions on AAS cycles? any examples you suggest and how u deal with them with your T1D?

[doby48]

As this is a post about nutrition I'd suggest you post in the correct category for AAS suggestions. I do have a male friend thats a Type 1 and has done a few cycles, though it takes a bit of time due to the insulin levels. I know the feedback I received from him was that his first cycle, he didn't notice the same impact as non-diabetics as he was spending a great deal of time easing into it and ensuring that his blood sugar levels were not too far outta whack.

[Makhshev]

thanks for the resource Doby! I took 90 grams of carbs in the form of steal cut oats with 2 units os slin 1.5 hours before working out and still dropped during exercise. So what I think I am going to do is try lowering my basal by 50% 1 hour before workout on my pump and eat a banana (like u said) before workout an see what happens. I keep a log by using my CGM. I will keep a close eye and see what happens tomorrow. Thanks!
great to talk to other type 1s regArding their methods!