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    I'm Fuked, Need Help Bad, Cops Busted Me

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    ok to make a long tory kind of short i was in my 7th week of test e, thursday night 2:00am i get a firm knowck on the door. get up to answer it and it is the cops nothing come to mind at first the ask me to step outside and start asking me questions about fake ids, and if i have made them and all that they then tel me the have a search warrent to search through my room, so i give them persmissions anyways knowing that in the terms of the contract with the school any reasonalbe doubt they can search my room. i am left in the hall with another cop well two more come up the elevator after talking to my roomates and searching the room the come out and cuff me. I am taken to the police station figeprinted and everything, they found my gear and some pot along with a piece that i just got to go to a concert this weekend since i don't drink or smoke, they fount all the syringes, juice winny nolva and clomid. Thewy took it all after spending the night in jail i start getting drilled for the fake id thing again well i guess they didn't find anything on me about it other then some kids saying it was me when they got busted for it. they toook my comp and copyed my drive so trouble still might come up for it later not sure. So back to the story i have 2 mistermeniors for the pot and piece the steriods are a class 3 felony. i got a hole of my parents who got my a bonds men who posted my 12,500 bond with a 1,250 depostit. This is going to be the first steriod case every in this county history so my lawyar is afriad they might be rather harsh on me to prove a point witch means i could end up with anything between 1-7 years in prison. I'll find out he is going to have me talk to the prosucuter before i go to court explain what it all is why i was doing ti and all that, it is considered a controlded substace. i am in a ****load of problems hear, i need help with court and any sujestions i should do to get my test levels back to normale now that i am done with it and they took it all away.
    y lawyar said if things work out i will be drug test for the next 2 years and that i won't even pe able to take any suppliments legal or anything. Help me please. I won't have much time to check this anytime soon busy with court lawyer bonds man and school and all that good **** so is people could bump this if it falls i would apprecate it. i will keep you posted ask any questions i will refer them to my lawyer, please any help would be greatly apprecated.
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    **** sorry to hear about your bad luck. I know you a little scared, but i would think at most you would get a few county days and probation. I'm sure the D.A will come at your hard first but im sure he'll settle for a light sentence as long as he get's a guilty plea. I could be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMike J
    **** sorry to hear about your bad luck. I know you a little scared, but i would think at most you would get a few county days and probation. I'm sure the D.A will come at your hard first but im sure he'll settle for a light sentence as long as he get's a guilty plea. I could be wrong.
    yea but i don't really want a guilty plea for a felony at the age of tweenty it will **** me,

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    i know its hard to do right now but you gotta try and stay cool...like bigmike said they are gonna come at you hard and threaten you with the book, but as long as you dont admit to anything you should avoid any major sentencing.(unless your lawyer suggests otherwise)

    im sorry to hear about your situation bro, good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigordie
    i know its hard to do right now but you gotta try and stay cool...like bigmike said they are gonna come at you hard and threaten you with the book, but as long as you dont admit to anything you should avoid any major sentencing.(unless your lawyer suggests otherwise)

    im sorry to hear about your situation bro, good luck
    don't admit to anything, they already cought me with it, it is obvious it is mine cause my roomate is all of 100lbs soaking wet and dressed in winter clothings holding a 16 pound bowling ball and the other one is a worthless fat piece of ****, They already know it is mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiTownTommy
    don't admit to anything, they already cought me with it, it is obvious it is mine cause my roomate is all of 100lbs soaking wet and dressed in winter clothings holding a 16 pound bowling ball and the other one is a worthless fat piece of ****, They already know it is mine.
    That thinking right there is what gets peps thrown in prison.. stupid thinking bro. They don't know ****. You do have 3 roomies right... well i guess they could just print the bottles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiTownTommy
    don't admit to anything, they already cought me with it, it is obvious it is mine cause my roomate is all of 100lbs soaking wet and dressed in winter clothings holding a 16 pound bowling ball and the other one is a worthless fat piece of ****, They already know it is mine.

    i was speaking along the lines of the fake ids

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiTownTommy
    don't admit to anything, they already cought me with it, it is obvious it is mine cause my roomate is all of 100lbs soaking wet and dressed in winter clothings holding a 16 pound bowling ball and the other one is a worthless fat piece of ****, They already know it is mine.

    Doesnt matter what they found. DONT ADMIT SHlT. Even if they have a video of you, dont admit shlt. Your lawyer cant do shlt once you admit to something. Im sure you already did so I wont go any further.

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    What is the actual charge? What did you get charged with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMike J
    What is the actual charge? What did you get charged with?
    possess controlled substace (that is the roids)
    possess marjuana less the 35 grams
    possess drug paraphenalia

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    First of all man make sure your lawyer knows all about the countries laws on roids!! second since pot is a drug and so are steroids.. could be argued that they are the same thing so therefore onlyone charge apply.. as long as their wasnt enough for trafficing! about the fake ID if they copied your hard drive they also need a seperate warrant for that.. make sure that was obtained.. another thing you shouldnt have answered any questions when they started asking you about id's at your apartment.. you should have kept quite man!! if they have a warrent they should search the premises first then if reasonable doubt it found question you and at that time place u under arrest siting your rights!! imo though man.. sorry to hear this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by needmorestrength
    First of all man make sure your lawyer knows all about the countries laws on roids!! second since pot is a drug and so are steroids.. could be argued that they are the same thing so therefore onlyone charge apply.. as long as their wasnt enough for trafficing! about the fake ID if they copied your hard drive they also need a seperate warrant for that.. make sure that was obtained.. another thing you shouldnt have answered any questions when they started asking you about id's at your apartment.. you should have kept quite man!! if they have a warrent they should search the premises first then if reasonable doubt it found question you and at that time place u under arrest siting your rights!! imo though man.. sorry to hear this!

    You could not be more wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by needmorestrength
    First of all man make sure your lawyer knows all about the countries laws on roids!! second since pot is a drug and so are steroids.. could be argued that they are the same thing so therefore onlyone charge apply.. as long as their wasnt enough for trafficing! about the fake ID if they copied your hard drive they also need a seperate warrant for that.. make sure that was obtained.. another thing you shouldnt have answered any questions when they started asking you about id's at your apartment.. you should have kept quite man!! if they have a warrent they should search the premises first then if reasonable doubt it found question you and at that time place u under arrest siting your rights!! imo though man.. sorry to hear this!
    i live on a college campus and it is in the terms of the contract that if they have any reasonable doubt that you are comiting a crime they have the right to search your room., and pot and roids are far from the same thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiTownTommy
    i live on a college campus and it is in the terms of the contract that if they have any reasonable doubt that you are comiting a crime they have the right to search your room., and pot and roids are far from the same thing

    Not necessarily dude...You can tell them no and they can call in a warrent. I work for a state university and know how things work. I would have told them to leave and come back with a warrent. If not..then they had no right to search my room.

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    **** so you got in trouble over a fake id? and they found the steroids? The search warrant has to have steroids listed on it for them to bust you for steroids. But then again i dont know how that works if you are on campus and living in university housing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Deacon
    **** so you got in trouble over a fake id? and they found the steroids? The search warrant has to have steroids listed on it for them to bust you for steroids. But then again i dont know how that works if you are on campus and living in university housing.
    So i guess if they found a dead body then that would get thrown out too

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMike J
    So i guess if they found a dead body then that would get thrown out too
    I never said it would get thrown out. They would have to get additional evidence as to why they believe you have a dead body in your room and get another warrant. They couldnt arrest you for that dead body unless they thought it had to do with the fake id's. They would have to get another warrant and do it all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMA
    just to clarify something - 2 legal principles applying to warrants - scope and intensity, the judge has to sign off to the conditions of both. scope is the area the warrant covers (for example, the warrant was for your dorm only, they couldn't search ALL the dorm rooms in the building). intensity refers to what they're allowed to search for. if they have a warrant to look for a stolen stereo system, they can't look in your coffee jar - there is no possible way that stereo could be found in your coffee jar. however, ANYTHING they find during a legal search is admissible.

    They said they had a warrant, did you read it? it might have just been a warrant to take your computer. it doesn't matter anyway, because u gave away most of your rights by agreeing to a "consent search" NEVER AGREE TO A CONSENT SEARCH, YOU'RE THROWING YOUR RIGHTS IN THE TOILET! if the warrant gave them the right to search everything in your dorm, they probably wouldn't have asked for a consent search.

    at least you were smart enough not to admit to anything. it may be "obvious" to you the stuff is yours, but they have to prove it in a court of law.

    good luck kid
    Anything they find isnt admissable. The warrant has to clearly spell out like you said the area to be searched and what they are looking for. If they are looking for fake id's and they find something illegal that is in no way affiliated with the original item they were searching for they must go and get a new warrant with the new illegal item listed. In order to do this they also have to present evidence convincing enough to the judge that they new that item was there before they did the search.

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    Best advice i can give is talk to your lawyer.. if he get's too negative on you get a new lawyer one who will fight and not try to talk you into some bull**** deal with the D.A

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMike J
    Best advice i can give is talk to your lawyer.. if he get's too negative on you get a new lawyer one who will fight and not try to talk you into some bull**** deal with the D.A
    no he is cool as can be is his going to try to have me talk my way out of it before anything since is was not a drug that cause any harm to anyone but me it doesn't really give you a high or anything it is just a drug to inhance yourself with high risk. yada yada yada

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    More than likely if you plea, it will be on a reduced crime. So you might just plea on the misdemeanors and not on any felonies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Deacon
    More than likely if you plea, it will be on a reduced crime. So you might just plea on the misdemeanors and not on any felonies.

    but DO NOT PLEA WITHOUT CONSULTING WITH YOUR LAWYER cops will try to be your best friend when they are tryin to get info out of you, dont fall for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigordie
    but DO NOT PLEA WITHOUT CONSULTING WITH YOUR LAWYER cops will try to be your best friend when they are tryin to get info out of you, dont fall for it.
    I was refferring to plea bargaining which would have to go through your lawyer anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Deacon
    I was refferring to plea bargaining which would have to go through your lawyer anyways.

    i know, but i didnt want him to read it the other way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Deacon
    I was refferring to plea bargaining which would have to go through your lawyer anyways.
    A plea bargin does not have to go through his lawyer if he chooses he can make a deal with the d/a himself. State his terms in exchange for whatever deal he finds worth taking.

    If it was me i was ask for a reduced charge in which i would plead guilty and accept 1 yr supervised probation. Deferred of course. Then see what the d.a says. He would prolly say no, but you would find out what he will accept really quick. Then if you do not like it offer another deal. If then if nobody can agree take that **** to trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMike J
    A plea bargin does not have to go through his lawyer if he chooses he can make a deal with the d/a himself. State his terms in exchange for whatever deal he finds worth taking.

    If it was me i was ask for a reduced charge in which i would plead guilty and accept 1 yr supervised probation. Deferred of course. Then see what the d.a says. He would prolly say no, but you would find out what he will accept really quick. Then if you do not like it offer another deal. If then if nobody can agree take that **** to trial.
    The first rule your counsel will give you is never say a word to anyone and to let him do the talking. Now if you follow this rule wouldnt any plea bargaining have to be done through your attorney?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigordie
    but DO NOT PLEA WITHOUT CONSULTING WITH YOUR LAWYER cops will try to be your best friend when they are tryin to get info out of you, dont fall for it.
    i know so i found out

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigordie
    but DO NOT PLEA WITHOUT CONSULTING WITH YOUR LAWYER cops will try to be your best friend when they are tryin to get info out of you, dont fall for it.
    FYI..Police officers are allowed to lie to you to get a confession.

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    You're fuked plain and simple.....take it like a man and roll with the punches and when all is said and done...find out who rolled on you and get your payback...I think you'll be hurting in your wallet more than anything else

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    Quote Originally Posted by mass junkie
    You're fuked plain and simple.....take it like a man and roll with the punches and when all is said and done...find out who rolled on you and get your payback...I think you'll be hurting in your wallet more than anything else
    If that does not lift his spirits nothing will. Dude your not ****ed.. not yet anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mass junkie
    You're fuked plain and simple.....take it like a man and roll with the punches and when all is said and done...find out who rolled on you and get your payback...I think you'll be hurting in your wallet more than anything else
    thats what i am thinking, but i would like to try and stay out of prison, i would also like to figure someway to get my test levels back up since i no longer have clomid or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mass junkie
    You're fuked plain and simple.....take it like a man and roll with the punches and when all is said and done...find out who rolled on you and get your payback...I think you'll be hurting in your wallet more than anything else
    thats what i was thinking. go ahead and accept the worse mainly because that way if you do get the book thrown at you you wont be surprised but if you get it reduced then hey go celebrate.. but imo, a **** load of comm service, a hefty fine and deffered jail sentence( probation--if you **** up with their time you will go to jail, i dont see you going to prison bro) have you ever been in trouble before??

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    Bro if you do plea out tell your lawyer you want a deferred sentence. You never know the d.a might for for that.

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    good luck bro, and remember not to trust the cops no matter what they say...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigordie
    good luck bro, and remember not to trust the cops no matter what they say...
    Hell don't even talk to the cops. Tell the cops whatever questions they have for you they can just speak to your laywer.

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    I got this from Steroidlaw.com

    While the vast majority of users (recently estimated at about 6 million Americans!) probably don't get caught, you could be one of the unlucky few. Under the Anabolic Steroids Control Act of 1990, which applies across the country, steroids are in the same legal class -- Schedule III -- as barbiturates, LSD precursors, veterinary tranquilizers like ketamine and narcotic painkillers like Vicodin. Simple possession is a federal offense punishable by up to one year in prison and/or a minimum fine of $1,000 (most states have added anabolic steroids to their schedules of controlled substances). Even if a jail sentence is ultimately avoided, the consequences of an arrest alone include being handcuffed, fingerprinted, and hauled before a judge for arraignment in open court. There will likely be legal expenses and even forfeiture of seized assets. A criminal conviction may prevent or interfere with employment opportunities in many fields such as law enforcement, and members of certain professions involving licensing (physicians, lawyers, dentists, pharmacists, teachers, nurses, cosmetologists, public accountants, architects, auctioneers, barbers, and licensed counselors, just to name a few) can expect a conviction to be reported to their state licensing authority, placing current employment in jeopardy. A drug conviction can suspend a person's driver's license (it's mandatory in some jurisdictions) and be a bar to the ability to own a firearm. Unquestionably, the assistance of experienced legal counsel is your best defense against these potential consequences.

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    Anyway man i wish you luck.. i don't care what others here say about you being ****ed. I think there is always a small chance of getting by

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    Ok. because i know in my state if you are being represented the prosecutor cant talk to you without your attorney present. You would have to do what you did and fire the attorney and then go talk to him in which case you wouldnt need an attorney present because you dont have one and at that point are representing yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Deacon
    Ok. because i know in my state if you are being represented the prosecutor cant talk to you without your attorney present. You would have to do what you did and fire the attorney and then go talk to him in which case you wouldnt need an attorney present because you dont have one and at that point are representing yourself.
    same over here

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    BTW. Especially since you live in a dorm, anyone has access to that room. Im sure you could have gotten off if you didnt say anything. Sharing a room with someone when the room has access to hundreds of other kids in the school. You dont know how it got in your room. Kids go in there all the time with your room mate. IT ISNT MINE. I dont know what you are talking about. Keep stalling and the DA would NEVER take that case to jury. NEVER. He would bluff and scare you before that happens. Then he would give probation before a jury case.

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