Need advice on these products

[psico]

I havent worked out for a year, and before that never worked out very intense.
I am going to put together a training program to get lean again, but also need to put on alot of muscle.
So before i ordered theese products i wanted to ask for your opinion. I have never taken steroids, and i have no wish to, atleast not yet. Do these products have any side effects like some steroids do ?
i have been thinking about ordering this:
MAXTERON™
DermaLEAN™
NitroPhen™
and using them all at once, while working out 3 or 4 days a week, and using regular protein and creatine suplements.

Any thoughts would be apreciated.
like...will these fatburners restrict my musclebuilding process ?

Thanks..from a newbie *S*

[GenuinePL]

They are all the same.

Honest opinion. I used some stuff which was called ????555. Can't remember the exact name of it. But it was fucken expensive. Well I used 2 bottles of it $120. WTF I was thinking. Anyways. I got hard as a rock and droped BF from 11 to about 8. I think that the stuff worked a little but I busted my ass in the gym. It will work but it's not worth the money. And it's nothing to impressive, but I also think that it depends in what shape you are and how big you are.

[GenuinePL]

WELCOME TO THE BOARD.

If you want to lean out go with ECA stack or Hydroxycut.
All this shit that you got there will cost so much that may as well get yourself a cycle.

[psico]

Thank you for the welcome *S*

Those products you mention:
ECA stack or Hydroxycut

are those steroids or similar ? as mentioned i am a complete newbie in this area. But i want to try keeping away from the so called steroid types because of the sideeffects.

But basicly these products i mentioned are not worth it ? Do they work at all ? any other experiences ?

Will try post a picture soon of my current state. but i am at work atm.

thank you

[GenuinePL]

ECA and Hydroxycut are over the counter supplements. They are both almost alike. You could get hydroxycut in any supplement store (DO NOT GO TO GNC) and ECA is a combo of Ephedrine, Caffeine and Asprin. All 3 of those are OTC.

[psico]

Any other people have good / bad results on using the stuff i asked about in the first post ?

thanks

[psico]

I just checked up on Hydroxycut. looked good, and i was about to order some, when i found out, that it can only be bought on prescription in my country, and customs will not allow me to import it from abroad. dangit.

[silverfox]

What country?

[psico]

Denmark

[NightOp]

do a search on maxteron... most ppl will say its crap.

[Tsurani]

sorry I am new to this stuff but I did do about an hour of reading on this board first, and had to edit my question a bit, cuz it was already asked. but on ward to the main thread:

I was thinking about taking impact nutrition supplements, in fact the ones above! but as I see ya'll say it is crap, but they have a 90 day money back guarantee.

I want to beef up but I am re-joining the military again and I KNOW for a fact that they test for roids. Here is the question I guess: what is the best that I can get that will beef me up and thin me out, & that are not roids? and where can I get em? I have been ripped off before by "supplements" so I am a bit cautious this time.

I mean I need something cuz I am one of the unlucky people that can work out hard for 3 months and won't gain shizot. I want to juice but I ain't a needle fan and the military tests for it. (hell even if they didn't I don't know anyone to "hook me up") is there anything else I can do? I work out about 4 times a week, eat proper, no beer (not anymore), get 8 hrs sleep, age 29 5'10" 165lbs. and it is really hard to continue to work out and not see any results

thanks for your time,

Tsurani

* taking cover cuz here come the flames....*

[macthedaddy]

Trust me the Millitary doesn't test for it!!! they test for a lot of shit but not juice man, I'm active in the Marine Corps and I can tell you from experience that they don't, it's too expensive to test for!

sorry I am new to this stuff but I did do about an hour of reading on this board first, and had to edit my question a bit, cuz it was already asked. but on ward to the main thread:

I was thinking about taking impact nutrition supplements, in fact the ones above! but as I see ya'll say it is crap, but they have a 90 day money back guarantee.

I want to beef up but I am re-joining the military again and I KNOW for a fact that they test for roids. Here is the question I guess: what is the best that I can get that will beef me up and thin me out, & that are not roids? and where can I get em? I have been ripped off before by "supplements" so I am a bit cautious this time.

I mean I need something cuz I am one of the unlucky people that can work out hard for 3 months and won't gain shizot. I want to juice but I ain't a needle fan and the military tests for it. (hell even if they didn't I don't know anyone to "hook me up") is there anything else I can do? I work out about 4 times a week, eat proper, no beer (not anymore), get 8 hrs sleep, age 29 5'10" 165lbs. and it is really hard to continue to work out and not see any results

thanks for your time,

Tsurani

* taking cover cuz here come the flames....*

[xzoomzx]

sorry to tell you but noones gonna flame you bro.,,,,,,,,your going into the military when we need it the most ..that shows your a lunatic and a true hero........so ill answer y our question.....those impact things blow.....tottal shyt none of them work ..your best get is taking creatine,glutamine,protein, take some aminos and throw in some zma thats probaly the best natural shyt that will def help ......and train like a lunatic if you want some hardcore protein weightgain shakes just ask me now and tell me what powder and flavor you like............i make them for a living i know great ones.......they call me protein master ay my gym .........anone else can ask too

[Neo]

Try some Xenadrine RFA-1

[psico]

xzoomzx
Let us hear about those protein shakes. I could use it..hehe.

[Shredder]

I heard allot of good stuff about Biotest's MAG-10 which is a prosteroid not a prohormone. But it will cost around 60 to 70 bucks for it. Dont mess with the prohormones.

[psico]

Finally i thought i was getting lucky. i found that they sold Hydroxycut in sweden so i could get it there. but then discovered that there are apparently 2 different kinds of hydroxycut on the market. the euro version and the original. whats the difference ? only the most important thing...theres no ephedrin in the euro version. so now im stuck again.
Looking for a good ECA product......which i can get in denmark/europe or which i can order from the US WITHOUT being picked up by customs.

[Shredder]

Just order it thru the u.s. bro. Cmon now its only ECA what they gonna do lock you up? (hope not) People order anxillary drugs from different countries all the time and i dont care if its illegal. Besides the company's usually package there pills in a small box and they dont advertise whats in it. I think your safe bro.

[xzoomzx]

Originally posted by psico
xzoomzx
Let us hear about those protein shakes. I could use it..hehe.

for a good weight gain have 2 scoops of nlarge
1 bananna
dextrose
crushed ice
bcaa powder
frozen berries
6 ounces whole milk
6 ounces skim milk
2 tablespoon peanut butter
hows that?

[D3m3nt3d]

MAXTeron and dermaLEAN are supposedly "legal steroids" in other words..they carry the same side effects but not near the same results bro..im not familiar with nitrophen, but as GenuinePL said..hydroxycut, ECA, or xenadrine would be your best bet..especially as far as the results to price ratio

[AJS]

Wut side negative side effects does DermaLEAN have?