What should I say....

[BigJames]

Ok guys, need some help here. As some of you may know from other threads, I have recently been diagnosed with low testosterone (201 ng/dl - normal range is about 300-1200ng/dl as far as I understand). I am feeling tired, moody, depressed, low sex drive, and aching body for the past month or two. There is some hesitation from the doctor to put me on HRT, I am guessing due to my age (29 years). They seem to hope this will resolve it self. As of now there is no known cause for my condition (idiopathic). I have not trained in 3 weeks cause I cannot get out of bed in the morning and I feel like I am exhausted by about 2pm everyday. The worst part is that I am so "blah" by the afternoon that my family life is being effected. When last I tried, I was able to get it up, but it was not as "hard" as usual. Not sure if this was a one time thing as I have not tried again since then...no interest.

What I want to know is, what should I say to get the ball rolling on some treatment for this? Is the above good enough? I am not trying a scam here or anything, I just am notorious for not getting my information accross to the doctor in a way that gets results...any help is appreciated.

Thanks

[Heracles74]

I would start with about 4-5 grams of tribulus a day, see if that doesn't harden your stick and get some blood flowing first. low tets levels will effect al lthat... start with something like tribulus first... JMO.

[BigJames]

I would start with about 4-5 grams of tribulus a day, see if that doesn't harden your stick and get some blood flowing first. low tets levels will effect al lthat... start with something like tribulus first... JMO.

Thanks, that is my course of action if the doctor wants to leave this alone. I have used trib before, but never in a dose more than 750mg / day (which is useless I now know). What I want to know is, given that my bloodwork confirms that my test is low on its own (and I have never used gear), what symptoms are the ones that will convince the doctor to take action?

[Heracles74]

Thanks, that is my course of action if the doctor wants to leave this alone. I have used trib before, but never in a dose more than 750mg / day (which is useless I now know). What I want to know is, given that my bloodwork confirms that my test is low on its own (and I have never used gear), what symptoms are the ones that will convince the doctor to take action?

POh yeah bro.. .you need a lot more than that. tri won't hurt ya. I always reccoment taking about 4 caplets or so just before nbed, you'll sleep like a rock. Besides, that's when your body makes the most test is in your deep sleep and early in the AM.

Having really low test level naturall, that would be enough for him to start something for you...

[BigJames]

POh yeah bro.. .you need a lot more than that. tri won't hurt ya. I always reccoment taking about 4 caplets or so just before nbed, you'll sleep like a rock. Besides, that's when your body makes the most test is in your deep sleep and early in the AM.

Having really low test level naturall, that would be enough for him to start something for you...

So I would have thought, but I have had two bloodtest since April 1 05 and they show a low test level and a lower test level, yet I am still not being treated. I guess I will see him on Friday and just tell him how I feel and hope that some action is taken.

[Heracles74]

So I would have thought, but I have had two bloodtest since April 1 05 and they show a low test level and a lower test level, yet I am still not being treated. I guess I will see him on Friday and just tell him how I feel and hope that some action is taken.

Just tell him straight up that the testst show the levels are low and you want a sex life again... tell him to do his job and help you out. If he doesn't, you prolly need to find another doc that is interested in helping his patients out. Low sex drive, depression, and moods would be enough for most doctors to help ya out, it can only get worse from there.
I hope trhis works out for you bro.

[righton]

See if you can get referred to another doc(preferabley an endocrinologist) who specializes in internal meds(hormones,glands..) their more into HRT and such.

[BigJames]

See if you can get referred to another doc(preferabley an endocrinologist) who specializes in internal meds(hormones,glands..) their more into HRT and such.

I did get referred to an endocrinologist and after the second blood test she wants to wait until September to check my bloodwork again before making any desicions.

[smiler]

find a new doc. hrt at your age is perfectly fine as long as you cycle. several web site docs would have no problem with this as long as you come off at least every 6 months.good luck

[BigJames]

find a new doc. hrt at your age is perfectly fine as long as you cycle. several web site docs would have no problem with this as long as you come off at least every 6 months.good luck

What do you mean come off every 6 months? What does this mean? You stop the HRT? For how long?

[smiler]

the doc will give his opinion but i think off for a month (test) is normal if you are under 35 yrs

[smiler]

actually it may be longer..the reason i dont know for sure is i am old (38) so i never come off

[BigJames]

actually it may be longer..the reason i dont know for sure is i am old (38) so i never come off

Thanks for the info...we shall see what the doc recommends on Friday afternoon.