Phera-Plex the replacement for Superdrol

[bluelightning3]

Well as many of you are disappointed that Superdrol is being discontinued I felt that there has to be something to replace it. So I emailed Anabolic Xtreme the makers of Superdrol and received an email stating that Phera-Plex is better. Now anyone can say anything for sales, but has anyone tried this? Here is the email I received today.



Yes we do now. Phera-Plex will provide much better gains than
Superdrol. It is far Superior.
Regards,

Kevin Smith
President
Anabolic Resources
Anabolic Xtreme
[email protected]
www.AnabolicX.com
(888)388-7566 Ext 703

[Bryan2]

phera plex is good stuff but it is highly androgenic

[fLgAtOr]

Supposed to be more like Ergomax....not superdrol. I haven't heard too much feedback about it though.

[Giantz11]

Phea-Plex is not a replacement, they are different compunds. PP is about 2.5X more anabolic than SD and about 9X more Androgenic. The androgenic sides should be much more prevelant with PP. But still it is a very solid compound. Very similar to ErgoMax which people seem to be very happy with.

[copenhagen]

so what androgenic characteristics will people see on pp?

[Giantz11]

Enlarged Prostate, Acne, Hairloss, Aggression, those are the typical sides of highly Androgenic compounds.

[copenhagen]

thanks giantz11

[Papi93]

Has anyone experienced the increased libido from Phera Plex?

[sputnik]

Yeah I wouldn't say it's a replacement, but there have been some not responding so well to SD that have done very well with PP, such as myself. In fact when I first gave SD a go, I was told that in fact PP or Ergo may be better for me. In terms of androgenic sides, I have got some pimples, but not more than I did with SD, no hairloss, but I have noticed more agression actually.

In terms of libido, just as good as with SD

[Papi93]

Yeah I wouldn't say it's a replacement, but there have been some not responding so well to SD that have done very well with PP, such as myself. In fact when I first gave SD a go, I was told that in fact PP or Ergo may be better for me. In terms of androgenic sides, I have got some pimples, but not more than I did with SD, no hairloss, but I have noticed more agression actually.

In terms of libido, just as good as with SD

Is it a subtle difference in libido or a dramatic one?

[sputnik]

Dramatic? hmmmm, i don't know about that, but I find myself thinking about it a lot more, wake up with a woody every morning, loads are bigger (already huge but hey i'll take the extra), and get quite excited seeing all the girls in town where i work

[Milky87]

PP and ErgoMax both have the same active ingredient but the ratios of isomers in each is different. There are 2 positional isomers (2-ene and 3-ene) aswell as two stereoisomers (5a and 5b).

The potency of each is as follows:
5a-2-ene > 5b-2-ene > 5a-3-ene > 5b-3-ene

PP is supposedly 100% 5a-2-ene while Ergo is something like a 7:2 mix of 5a-2-ene:5b-2-ene. Ergo also contains an undetermined amount of the 3-ene stereoisomers

[cfiler]

So what would be a better idea for a AR member, stocking up on superdrol, or using phera plex instead?

It looks alot stronger. I have been toying around with the idea of running another prohormone cycle. (Last one was 1test & 4ad back in 2002 or 2003)
I don't want to miss out. I was waiting for a product that was supposed to be way better than 1ad, but it was a flop... and I missed out on a 1ad cycle.

Anybody run both? Are the sides of phrea plex worth it because it's gains are alot more drastic than superdrol?

[Papi93]

I thinking of running Phera Plex at 30mg ED for 4 weeks. How long would a typical PCT be for a Phera Plex - only cycle? I know you run PCT until fully recovered but I was just looking for general suggestions. I'm thinking 100mg Clomid, 20mg Nolva, and 0.25mg Arimidex for 1-2 weeks.

[chest6]

I would go 3 to be safe man.

[sputnik]

Do 4 weeks for PCT just as u wold for SD. Again Papi, I suggest that 30mg for 4 weeks will be a waste of money. So far I put on more weight in my first 2 weeks doing 20mg. Anyways, up to u.

[Papi93]

Do 4 weeks for PCT just as u wold for SD. Again Papi, I suggest that 30mg for 4 weeks will be a waste of money. So far I put on more weight in my first 2 weeks doing 20mg. Anyways, up to u.

I'll go with the 20mg. It will save me some money . What did your PCT look like?

[sputnik]

10,20,20,30 would be good i think...at least, that's what I'll be trying the next time

as to PCT, i thnk i mentioned it in the other PP thread....T-Drive, PowerFULL, and Crethyl Thunder

[Papi93]

10,20,20,30 would be good i think...at least, that's what I'll be trying the next time

as to PCT, i thnk i mentioned it in the other PP thread....T-Drive, PowerFULL, and Crethyl Thunder

What would be the most phera plex cycles you would run in one year?

[Papi93]

I would go 3 to be safe man.

How suppressive your Max LMG cycle? Any noticeable testicular atrophy?

[chest6]

Noticable, yes. Significant, no. I did stay on the HotTer and tongkat for a good 4-5 weeks though.

[chest6]

andro products r crap imo

[Papi93]

andro products r crap imo

4AD was the shit. I ran with 1g ED. Bryan, supplement guru, said it's comparable to test prop at 50mg ED.

[Bryan2]

4AD was the shit. I ran with 1g ED. Bryan, supplement guru, said it's comparable to test prop at 50mg ED.

yup you basically have the exact same amount of test in your system as you would runnin tesp P

[chest6]

yup, saw that up there. Never tried 1AD or 4AD actually. Just tried things w/ andro in them. I was young as hell when I did them, wont even mention my age. I doubt they would have worked even if I tried them out now. Did Animal Stak and P6. P6 had mostly iol's in it which seemed to be more effective.

[Papi93]

yup, saw that up there. Never tried 1AD or 4AD actually. Just tried things w/ andro in them. I was young as hell when I did them, wont even mention my age. I doubt they would have worked even if I tried them out now. Did Animal Stak and P6. P6 had mostly iol's in it which seemed to be more effective.

What's P6? What, also, is iol's?

[cfiler]

Phrea Plex seems to be alot more effective than superdrol. I'm pretty excited about this product. Can't wait for a PP log. I think in the new year, I might run a cycle. This is sounding very appe****g. It sure took the suppliment companies to come up with something as effective as the good ol prohormones.

[Bryan2]

P6 was put out as a blend of PHs by cellucor it was alright but didnt have enough one 1 PH to be cost effective

iols meaning the diol version of the PHs first were diones which converted to the target hormone at a lower rate then the diols.

[Papi93]

P6 was put out as a blend of PHs by cellucor it was alright but didnt have enough one 1 PH to be cost effective

iols meaning the diol version of the PHs first were diones which converted to the target hormone at a lower rate then the diols.

Thanks Bryan. What dosage would you run Phera Plex at? One member said anything above 20mg is a waste and another said stay with 30mg.

[chest6]

P6 was put out as a blend of PHs by cellucor it was alright but didnt have enough one 1 PH to be cost effective

iols meaning the diol version of the PHs first were diones which converted to the target hormone at a lower rate then the diols.

yup...thanks bryan. P6 wasnt all that great..MAG 10 was pretty good but it was a prosteroid

[Bryan2]

play around with the dose try 20 for a while and ramp up if you feel needed but realistically you shouldnt need to go up to 30mg as 20mg will still give you great gains.

[sputnik]

hey Bryan I suggested, based on the reviews I've seen and my own current usage, to do 10,20,20,30 or something similar, what do u think?

[Papi93]

hey Bryan I suggested, based on the reviews I've seen and my own current usage, to do 10,20,20,30 or something similar, what do u think?

I always wondered why you just don't go 20mg throughout?

[sputnik]

something about letting ur body adjust to it, so that if u jump straight into 20 it may be a bit of a waste in ur 1st week....having said that I jumped straight into 20mg...bt I do see the value in starting at 10 and taking it to 3 for the last week

[Bryan2]

Yes it can work but with this compound there really isnt too much negative sides fot the body to have thus there really isnt too much use in "easing" into the compound.

But it is always best to play around with doses and see how your own body will personally react to it.

[Bryan2]

I noticed your avatar sputnik any affiliation or you just really like there products???

[sputnik]

Bryan, first a fan, but as of a cpl of months ago an AvantLabs rep...I would never use a co's logo as an avatar, otherwise I would use 3 or 4 logos!

Ur right about little sides at all....except agression of course

[cmax]

How does Phera-Plex compare to 1-TU and 4AD in terms of effectiveness and side effects?

[Natural Mac]

Sounds like phera plex is some good sh!t. I ran a 4 week cycle of SD with great results, but my cholesterol levels went to crap. My Doctor nearly shit and put me on Vytorin. Needless to say, I will never use SD again. Has anyone had any blood work done post cycle to see the sides? How does PP affect Cholesterol and blood levels? Thanks.

[Papi93]

Sounds like phera plex is some good sh!t. I ran a 4 week cycle of SD with great results, but my cholesterol levels went to crap. My Doctor nearly shit and put me on Vytorin. Needless to say, I will never use SD again. Has anyone had any blood work done post cycle to see the sides? How does PP affect Cholesterol and blood levels? Thanks.

Excellent question! Bump for replies.