1st serious bulk - Test + ?

[cutting_king]

Hey guys. looking for some advice on my bulking cycle coming up next month. going to use test cyp/En as a base + kickstarting with d-bol. i was thinking about stacking with eq but i'm not sure if there may be something else better that i'm overlooking to stack the test with. my other cycles have mostly been non-aromatising cycles as I've been cutting up and i'm not wanting to use a progestin as they create really bad sides for me so no tren. letro will be used during cycle and pct will be no problem to sort. looking to gain around 15-20 pounds. diet is in check and I've been training over 3 years total now too. so whats your opinion on the best thing to go with test for good hard lean gains? any advice appreciated

[stocky121]

cycle experiance and stat's mate ?

[cutting_king]

ok here goes. Height 5'11, weight: down to 175 :-( cycle experience: I've completed 3 cycles previously. 1) sust/deca (Which i cut short due to sides as i had no knowledge of ai's) 2) prop/primo/winny 3) primo/Var/tren. all 3 cycles were 10 weeks long but only did proper pct on the 2nd and 3rd as the 1st one was over a year ago when i knew next to nothing. diet consists of 4000 calories and 300 protein daily mainly from food as i don't rely on shakes apart from post workout and bedtime. i also do MMA fighting after my workout which i use as my cardio

[stocky121]

ok here goes. Height 5'11, weight: down to 175 :-( cycle experience: I've completed 3 cycles previously. 1) sust/deca (Which i cut short due to sides as i had no knowledge of ai's) 2) prop/primo/winny 3) primo/Var/tren. all 3 cycles were 10 weeks long but only did proper pct on the 2nd and 3rd as the 1st one was over a year ago when i knew next to nothing. diet consists of 4000 calories and 300 protein daily mainly from food as i don't rely on shakes apart from post workout and bedtime. i also do MMA fighting after my workout which i use as my cardio

if you could handdle deca again i would opt for this over eq

b,bol test and deca great mass building stack

[cutting_king]

if you could handdle deca again i would opt for this over eq

b,bol test and deca great mass building stack

i thought deca would be the 1st suggestion and seems pretty logical except it blows my head up the size and shape of an over-inflated beachball

[goalseeker]

i thought deca would be the 1st suggestion and seems pretty logical except it blows my head up the size and shape of an over-inflated beachball

..WHOA!!...

[vitor]

i thought deca would be the 1st suggestion and seems pretty logical except it blows my head up the size and shape of an over-inflated beachball

Yeah, deca causes seriuos bloating, +the progesterone sides which makes deca a very unpleasent drug in high dosages. Primobloan can therefor be used at much higher dosages than nadrolone, and give higher maximum effect, with alot less sides.

[vitor]

Primobolan is what youre looking for(to add with the test), if you can offord it. 1 gram per week, and you will have a blast, with no sides.

[cutting_king]

Primobolan is what youre looking for(to add with the test), if you can offord it. 1 gram per week, and you will have a blast, with no sides.

i love primo! as soon as i find a decent price for it i will buy it by the gallon! until then..... the last time i ran primo i ran it at 500mg and still got good keepable solid gains for it but suppose I'll have to do some saving for 1gram a week