Halo... can you use it in Comp

[mmaximus25]

I don’t know much about power lifting comps in fact I'm going to post this in the Power lifting arena. So please reply there if you’re a competitive Power lifter

I use halo every other week to every 2 weeks (twice in the same week for legs and chest) when I do my most powerful and heaviest lifts.

Do they test right before you walk out to lift... how does it work? Cause 8-10mg of halo allows me to easily add 40-70lbs to any bench and 100-200lb on leg press, squats and deads. This really helps me cause on heavy days I do gut busting drop sets. Let’s get it on

I'd like to add I dont use Halo when trying to gauge my strength on average.

[Doc.Sust]

no they test you beofre or after the contest, not usually during, there are organizations that do not test

[bmg]

each major federations are posting their rule books online. this info should state if the meets are tested and other related info. if you want to use your halo in a meet try scoping out the american powerlifting federation... they wont care.

[Wayne Mudrack]

What is halo? And how does it work?

[mmaximus25]

What is halo? And how does it work?

http://www.steroid.com/Halotestin.php


If I have the right meals before heavy trainning I typically go up 60-80lbs on all benches and 100-200lbs on all leg lifts, presses ...etc..while training.

I use it as a training tool to help tear down more fibers by lifting more weight.. My thing is I only use on heavy days. It not meant to be taken everyday for normal workouts... BBer use it for pre-contest also...

[powerliftmike]

http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/ look for organizations that dont test, like WPO.

[barbndr]

I ran many contest back in the late 70s all the way into the 90s. Like most of the replies have stated, do a little research on the organization (who the meet is sanctioned by) to find out the type of testing. There should be some mention of it on the entry blank. Almost 90% of the time the testing will be done after the meet as most organizations test a percentage of the winners and don't want to throw away money on someone who bombs a meet. Additionally, you could just call the meet director and ask what type of testing is being performed.

[Needle_Newb]

That seems like a large increase for such an irregular use of halotestin.

[mmaximus25]

I think I understand your question... my poundages... yes... The difference is simple without halo and I did carb load I would start with 70lb dumbells and work up to 120's... with halo I would start warm up with may be 70 but the 1st set would be with 100's or 110's and work to 150's.. thats bench and dumbells... I haven;t gone over to the decline latley and see the monster go town in awhile... I like heavy, heavy decline... haven't done it in some time my back is an issue but I bench the most on barbell decline... fo sho

on legs I dont like to squat if training regularly over 315... on light days and usually stay at deep 225.. heavy days I go to 405, 455 not been recent in fact been a coulple years since I've squatted over 455 but 475... that would be only on a heavy day after carb loading the day before up until lift...

Leg press is too funky with percentages and how much direct weight are you lifting, but yeah I easily add 200 more pounds on a halo training day with leg press.. no problem

make since now....?

[taiotosh7]

I've never thought of using halo just as a tool to boost my workouts.....I will consider it, sounds very interesting.....any more info on this?

[mmaximus25]

I've never thought of using halo just as a tool to boost my workouts.....I will consider it, sounds very interesting.....any more info on this?

The dosage is simple for me I'm not that big... Some bigger bros would need to take a bit more if using as a training tool... But I always carb load the day of and the day before... helps mentally for heavy days as you probably already know...

Halo I stay no more than 20mg... I usually take a max of 10-15mg
Anadrol is simple either 50mg or 75mg
Dbol, 25-50mg
I take them 1hr to 30mins before heavy training twice a week but not every week.. typically 30mins before also... and I pick one, I've never taken them together...

I have taken all before in halves... like 1hr to 30mins before training I would take half then in the middle or after the 1st exersice I will take the other half...
You will love it on the heaviest days...

It is a bit humbling coming back and lifting without but for me eventually my average strength begins to climb to the heavy poundages but I dont have the same endurance and can't perform as many reps or nearly half as many...
Yet I get closer and closer

[Needle_Newb]

No offence, but I am almost 100% positive your getting a placebo effect. No matter how fast your metabolism, your not going to synthesize muscle in 30 minutes. And my name is a bit of a joke, I can lift some very decent numbers.

[mmaximus25]

No offence, but I am almost 100% positive your getting a placebo effect. No matter how fast your metabolism, your not going to synthesize muscle in 30 minutes. And my name is a bit of a joke, I can lift some very decent numbers.

I would never rule an effect out... I however only operate and speak about my personal experience... I've been guinea pigging for five years now... I stay at 9-10% body fat year around with one 12 week diet down per year and have continued to increase my mass base each year.

Buddy if you think I’m trying to tell you something that goes against what you think or what you've read... its simple try it... I hate, absolutly hate fukers that talk about sh^t they dont know about... I wouldn't do that..

I may read a lot but I will never go against my body’s reaction… I’m experienced enough to know if a synthetic hormone is effecting my body in the dosages I posted above. My preference is halo 10mg, drol 75mg, dbol 50mg... halo is the preference at the moment but that may change once I'ev done my comparison two more times...

Pre-workout meal 1-1/2hrs before training. On an empty stomach pop 20mg of halo 30min prior training and go lift... I drink protein while I train also... Thats to save my mind from a fear of a catabolic effect...

synthesize... dont understand? The AAS compound derivative or nutrient based compound... the full spectrum of protein sysnthesis... or what?

It’s simple...You will have an enormous strength increase allowing you to push more weight and breakdown more skeletal tissue... that is the bases of the intake for training... The reason I started this thread to find out if PL use these in Comp due to the strength increase...

[powerliftmike]

The reason I started this thread to find out if PL use these in Comp due to the strength increase...

Yes, halo is very popular among powerlifters.

[mmaximus25]

No offence, but I am almost 100% positive your getting a placebo effect. No matter how fast your metabolism, your not going to synthesize muscle in 30 minutes. And my name is a bit of a joke, I can lift some very decent numbers.

just looked at your profile... your 335lb you will need to take a definite higher doage than me to conduct my proposed experiment... Although at 18% BF I know your metabolic rate has slown down due to BF...

You're over 100lb heavy than me.. I not sure what dosages you would take for this type of use... maybe 50mg Halo...

I dont even know your base of intake so you would need to play around to figure your dosage used in this method... Again this is not done on a daily basis... typically people take anadrol and dbol on a daily basis and use halo for leaning purposes... I use these either in this training method or for a straight 5 weeks... I see far better purpose for anadrol and dbol taking it in a realtive high amount but a couple times a week. After I played with drol and dbol like this I've only used halo in this manner... I can say 20mg is a bit over board for me but boy do I feel like a freak of nature while training...

[mmaximus25]

The only thing I want to add is the half life issue... Once you've taken any androgen you should compare it to its profile (A process of receptor mapping)... Those are ranges and not very good ones once you start comparing your personal effectiveness to the profile... People that throw profiles at you don’t have good personal knowledge of the compound and its physiological affects.
I have mapped my dosages per ester but as far as pills go I know more about dbol and halo... anadrol I took long ago and didn't make notes of its half life and my consumption...

Say an average half life is 3-4hrs meaning the life span is only 6-8hrs... the highest dosage released will be at or around the half life... This perception is too easily thrown around... until you apply these averages to your own personal metabolism you’re not exactly dialing it in... I know everyone doesn't care but I for one am a geek about human chemistry and would like to always be at optimal performance... I also am an advocate for taking the most effective amount with the lowest posibly side effects.
Ok, so lets say the highest dosage for a particluar androgen/anabolic is at 3-4hrs on average... Its worth knowing if you are in the higher or lower end of the half life for my methods of creating the highest anabolic atmosphere you can achieve... diet, training technique and in conjunction with hormone supps this atmosphere can be achieved...

You want to effectively be training at or closer to the half life to allow the remaining dosage to be put to use during recovery which starts as your consuming your post work out meal...


This is my method I've come to use for the past 3yrs... I spend less money on all my AAS and other supps due to my intake and receptor mapping

[Velkar182]

Has anyone else had these effects using Halo? Or heard of such effects? I am interested in trying but are there any side effects to taking halo once every couple of weeks.

[mmaximus25]

everyone responds to drugs differently. The way a person responds to a drug is affected by many factors, including genetic makeup, age, body size, the use of other drugs and dietary supplements (such as medicinal herbs (see Medicinal Herbs and Nutraceuticals: Introduction), the consumption of food (including beverages), the presence of diseases (such as kidney or liver disease), and the development of tolerance and resistance. For example, a large person generally needs more of a drug than a smaller person needs for the same effect. Whether people take a drug as instructed (see Compliance With Drug Treatment: Introduction) also affects their response to it. These factors may affect what the body does to the drug (pharmacokinetics (see Administration and Kinetics of Drugs: Introduction), what the drug does to the body (pharmacodynamics (see Dynamics of Drugs: Introduction), or both.

A friend I train is a pharmacologist... He cut and pasted this awhile back when we were talking about people looking at profiles and actually having a different physiological effect.

Profiles are a base but far from acurate...

I say take the halo write down your dose and reaction after 2weeks consumption of a particular method of use....

The only thing I want to add is the half life issue... Once you've taken any androgen you should compare it to its profile (A process of receptor mapping)... Those are ranges and not very good ones once you start comparing your personal effectiveness to the profile... People that throw profiles at you don’t have good personal knowledge of the compound and its physiological affects.
I have mapped my dosages per ester but as far as pills go I know more about dbol and halo... anadrol I took long ago and didn't make notes of its half life and my consumption...

Say an average half life is 3-4hrs meaning the life span is only 6-8hrs... the highest dosage released will be at or around the half life... This perception is too easily thrown around... until you apply these averages to your own personal metabolism you’re not exactly dialing it in... I know everyone doesn't care but I for one am a geek about human chemistry and would like to always be at optimal performance... I also am an advocate for taking the most effective amount with the lowest posibly side effects.
Ok, so lets say the highest dosage for a particluar androgen/anabolic is at 3-4hrs on average... Its worth knowing if you are in the higher or lower end of the half life for my methods of creating the highest anabolic atmosphere you can achieve... diet, training technique and in conjunction with hormone supps this atmosphere can be achieved...

You want to effectively be training at or closer to the half life to allow the remaining dosage to be put to use during recovery which starts as your consuming your post work out meal...

This is my method I've come to use for the past 3yrs... I spend less money on all my AAS and other supps due to my intake and receptor mapping

[mkrulic]

I don’t know much about power lifting comps in fact I'm going to post this in the Power lifting arena. So please reply there if you’re a competitive Power lifter

I use halo every other week to every 2 weeks (twice in the same week for legs and chest) when I do my most powerful and heaviest lifts.

Do they test right before you walk out to lift... how does it work? Cause 8-10mg of halo allows me to easily add 40-70lbs to any bench and 100-200lb on leg press, squats and deads. This really helps me cause on heavy days I do gut busting drop sets. Let’s get it on

I'd like to add I dont use Halo when trying to gauge my strength on average.

Does this affect your sex drive? I was allways under the impression that taking orals w/o test will kill your sex drive

[mmaximus25]

Does this affect your sex drive? I was allways under the impression that taking orals w/o test will kill your sex drive

I dont know. I always have a test running if on... I guess your asking if used in comp.
That would be an experiment to see the individuals reaction to halo alone with out any other component...

I use as training tool (upping your strength with particular lifts) and you need have a growth focus.

I wonder if theres a PL competitor that has used halo by itself during comp... I dont think it would effect your sex drive unless it was taken every day and for a long period of time but I can't say per my experience...

[mkrulic]

I dont know. I always have a test running if on... I guess your asking if used in comp.
That would be an experiment to see the individuals reaction to halo alone with out any other component...

I use as training tool (upping your strength with particular lifts) and you need have a growth focus.

I wonder if theres a PL competitor that has used halo by itself during comp... I dont think it would effect your sex drive unless it was taken every day and for a long period of time but I can't say per my experience...

I didn't know you were running test w/ it. Do you cycle the test w/ the halo? If so which test do you use?
The last time I competed I was on test/tren/deca and I used the night before the comp. If you're going to be on I think it just makes sense to use during comp. imho

[mmaximus25]

I didn't know you were running test w/ it. Do you cycle the test w/ the halo? If so which test do you use?
The last time I competed I was on test/tren/deca and I used the night before the comp. If you're going to be on I think it just makes sense to use during comp. imho

Yes I cycle test with Halo, winny, dbol, (if over 10wks say 15-30wks then will use EQ too) and now LR3 IGF... (Proviron, nolva, HCG,,, all though out my cycles and for PCT too)

I only run propionate... I do how ever take low dosages... What I have found is my reaction to test (all of them) is very strong (my reaction to other anabolics is so strong I often hesitate to say yes to things like tren) and as long as the dose stays consistent or elevated (not lowered) I have a consistent reaction to it... (my intake comes from personal receptor mapping or finding my optimal dosages in regards to effectiveness/side effect ratio)

I take 50-100mg of prop Ed...(Currently only 50mg) I like the effectiveness and productiveness prop offers... (I don’t see the need for long esters for my purpose and I prefer to pinpoint injections to the particular muscles being trained on a daily basis) Remember I'm going for highest effectiveness and efficiency per dollar amount and per side effects for my body.... And to be really honest With 50mg of prop a day I can change from leaning to bulking personally with in a week by changing my diet... has nothing to do with my hormone intake....

What test did you use?

I've heard PL use test prop and suspension with halo during comp (old tubby, stocky guy from the gym)... Don’t know if the guys for real, but don’t know why he'd lie and I don’t compete

[Velkar182]

I am going to give this a try, but not till later, because I have to figure out how to get this crap. I have actually never heard of it till now. I'll let you guys know what happens.

[OldUncle]

Powerlifters (and athletes in most sports where strength and aggression give an edge) use halo in large numbers. BBers generally don't use it because it is piss poor for mass gains, etc. I don't think I've ever heard of anyone else using it in for only one dose prior to lifting - usually, it's a couple pills per day for the last 2-4 weeks before a meet to get the aggression up. This drug is not about physical changes but psychological arousal levels, and it works like a MFer. 30 years of gym rat and comp experience under my belt, and the only times I've ever seen anything like 'roid rage' were lifters on halo getting ready for a big meet.