how long is too long to run a cycle?

[juicepig]

how long is too long to run a cycle?.. over 10 weeks?

[2.minutes]

common cycle between 10-14 wks

[juice_305]

depends on what type of gear.

[Liftnainez]

14 weeks is def not LONG.. many people may not go over 14 but there are 20 30 40 weekers and just year around.. im sure there are many guys on this board who ran over 14 weekers... and 10 is DEF not long..

[mkrulic]

my gains start to slow after 6 weeks so that's where I stop. unless you plan to stay on you should stop where your gains start to slow. imho

[Liftnainez]

my gains start to slow after 6 weeks so that's where I stop. unless you plan to stay on you should stop where your gains start to slow. imho

Your stopping of gains was NOT from the AAS.. it probably was your lack of correct diet.. when you get bigger you need more calories to get even bigger.. your telling me when you run test e you stop seeing gains at week 6!?!? PLEASE!

[mkrulic]

Your stopping of gains was NOT from the AAS.. it probably was your lack of correct diet.. when you get bigger you need more calories to get even bigger.. your telling me when you run test e you stop seeing gains at week 6!?!? PLEASE!

why do you assume test e. Also, I didnt say stop, I said slow, as in slow down. here is what I typically run:
test e and deconate 900mg total
tren ace 540mg
nandrolone deconate 300mg

If you continue to run after your gains start to slow then you just end up loosing more of those gains during off time. assuming you do the time off = time on. on long cycles I found that I was allways starting at square one after taking proper off time. short cycles I come back almost were I leave off. why do more?

[Liftnainez]

why do you assume test e. Also, I didnt say stop, I said slow, as in slow down. here is what I typically run:
test e and deconate 900mg total
tren ace 540mg
nandrolone deconate 300mg

If you continue to run after your gains start to slow then you just end up loosing more of those gains during off time. assuming you do the time off = time on. on long cycles I found that I was allways starting at square one after taking proper off time. short cycles I come back almost were I leave off. why do more?

Why assume test e? And then your next comment is Test e and deconate @ 900mg total...??? so after week six gains stopr or slow down?? give me a break.. stop spreading this false info..

[SMAN12b]

Why assume test e? And then your next comment is Test e and deconate @ 900mg total...??? so after week six gains stopr or slow down?? give me a break.. stop spreading this false info..

Get Em Liftnainez..!!!

[mkrulic]

Why assume test e? And then your next comment is Test e and deconate @ 900mg total...??? so after week six gains stopr or slow down?? give me a break.. stop spreading this false info..

you assumed test e w/o me stating that I took test e. I didn't state that I took it untill after your post. still havnt said stop. Im not saying stop, but slow down. Try readiing what I write. I can see your going to need an example.
I may gain 50 lbs on my bench in 6 weeks, 65 in 10 weeks. after 10 weeks off I loose almost all of that 65 lbs. so I'm really only renting it. after 6 weeks off I come back w/ 35 to 40 lbs of my last gain. short cycles are the only way to go, imho

[brundle]

my gains start to slow after 6 weeks so that's where I stop. unless you plan to stay on you should stop where your gains start to slow. imho

I have to agree with MKRULIC. I gain really well up until 5-6 weeks (using test e and deca), then I hardly gain at all. I'm done with the 10-12 week cycles and I'm sticking with 6 weeks from now on. And I know it's not my diet

[Liftnainez]

I have to agree with MKRULIC. I gain really well up until 5-6 weeks (using test e and deca), then I hardly gain at all. I'm done with the 10-12 week cycles and I'm sticking with 6 weeks from now on. And I know it's not my diet

I think thats just YOU and MKRULIC.. but what can i say.. to each his own.. just doesnt make sense.. if your going to run a 4-6 week cycle why use test E and not test P.. im sorry you are wrong and i dont care what other thread you pull up to try an combat my statement..

[marcus300]

I think thats just YOU and MKRULIC.. but what can i say.. to each his own.. just doesnt make sense.. if your going to run a 4-6 week cycle why use test E and not test P.. im sorry you are wrong and i dont care what other thread you pull up to try an combat my statement..

You can run long esters in short cycles with the exactly same effect, it all depends on how much mg you injecting on how effective it will be, obviously its going to be run high for good effect tho,

With what i call standard short cycles you would be better of using faster acting compounds, this is a far better option than long ester's at a normal dose.

[Kale]

You can run long esters in short cycles with the exactly same effect, it all depends on how much mg you injecting on how effective it will be, obviously its going to be run high for good effect tho,

With what i call standard short cycles you would be better of using faster acting compounds, this is a far better option than long ester's at a normal dose.

Lets see what kind of smart ass reply this generates Marcus

[mkrulic]

im sorry you are wrong and i dont care what other thread you pull up to try an combat my statement..

That's laughable. you'll find that people react differently to different hormones. How you react is how you react. Its not lying or wrong. it just is what it is. what would my motovation for lying be? your very loose in your words. you would have been more accurate to say, "I dont understand how,...", or, "I think it would be better like this..." If you would have stated it that way you would have gained enlightenment about hormones. I could have given you a reason why that might have changed the way you look at steroid use.
post script:
you cannont put any water in a glass thats full.

[juicepig]

cycle was.... 2 cc's of EQ on monday ran winny pills 50 mg every day

after both were done i ran another bottle of EQ and started Sustanon 250 but 2 ccs of each twice a week

so all together
winny pills 50 mg, 30 pills
EQ 200 , 10 shot
EQ 200 , 10 shot
Sustanon 250 10 shot

Can i run more winny pills and clen or am i going over board

[mkrulic]

I knew you were too lazy to use a search button so I did it for you.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=short+cycles

q. are all these people liars too?

[Liftnainez]

wow you really are a moron.. the thread you posted proved my point!!!!!!! not urs.. the FEW people who recommended the short cycles said to use test PROP!!!!! and most people saying the real benefits are passed week 6!! i am not agaisnt short cycles but do NOT tell me test E is used for 4-6 weeks.. stop now bc you look like a fool..

[mkrulic]

wow you really are a moron.. the thread you posted proved my point!!!!!!! not urs.. the FEW people who recommended the short cycles said to use test PROP!!!!! and most people saying the real benefits are passed week 6!! i am not agaisnt short cycles but do NOT tell me test E is used for 4-6 weeks.. stop now bc you look like a fool..

the test was for keeping my sex drive in check. the gains came from the tren ace, a short ester. your focusing on one small part of the cycle. and I choose long ester test cause I want it to last after the cycle is over. name calling is immature. w/ that being said I bet both you bitches wont respond to this

[Liftnainez]

the test was for keeping my sex drive in check. the gains came from the tren ace, a short ester. your focusing on one small part of the cycle. and I choose long ester test cause I want it to last after the cycle is over. name calling is immature.

Please somebody take over for me and inform this guy on EVERYTHING!!!!

[mkrulic]

Please somebody take over for me and inform this guy on EVERYTHING!!!!

yea that's what I thought bitch

[Liftnainez]

yea that's what I thought bitch

I thought name calling was immature.. and you just made a fool out of yourself... I said somebody take over bc your to dumb to deal with.. wow you are one of the special ones on this site..

[Liftnainez]

quote from cfiler from the THREAD YOU posted

"Test for nine weeks? You only had test active for 4-5 weeks. Your best bet would be to stick with a plain test cycle for 10-12 weeks."

lol you crack me up mkrulik

[Booz]

cut outthe bullshit and the flaming boys...........this is meant to be a discussion board...........you are tottaly killing this thread..............

[Liftnainez]

cut outthe bullshit and the flaming boys...........this is meant to be a discussion board...........you are tottaly killing this thread..............

Im done.. Proved my point that Test E is not used in 4-6 week cycles.. I am finished..

[Liftnainez]

another quote from what you POSTED that proves MY point:

"I have done many short cycles as little boster before event shortest ran was 5 weeks though and was test prop tren ace and winny all at high does well to me they were high.
1-5 winny 50-100-50 ect
1-5 test 150ed
1-5 tren 150ed
got rock soild also got sides mostly from the tren

so run test sup and tren ace both at 50-100mg ed for 4-6 weeks it will work but you are not going to get huge size gains as this mostly for cutting imp"

Where does anybody use TEST E???????? Back up your false claims.. your the one who she be using the search function bud..

[Liftnainez]

And he wonders why I am laughing..

HAHA i know bro i know.. but you know how some people are.. close minded and obstinate.. his loss..

[mkrulic]

the funniest part of this whole thing is that you got worked up over the enathate ester when I'm running deconate (A LONGER ESTER) on two different hormones. fvckin monkies

[Kale]

I think Booz is going to kick both your asses if this childish crap continues. Take your bitching to PM's !!!!

[mkrulic]

I think Booz is going to kick both your asses if this childish crap continues. Take your bitching to PM's !!!!

they both just did a search and realized that deconate has a longer half-life than enanthate. they are cowreing in their ignorance

[juicepig]

okay fellas how is this helping me out??

[Kale]

okay fellas how is this helping me out??

Exactly !!!! To answer your question, it would vary a lot between individuals and I dont think there is any specific time limit. Pretty much experiment and see what works for you

[1buffsob]

Exactly !!!! To answer your question, it would vary a lot between individuals and I dont think there is any specific time limit. Pretty much experiment and see what works for you

Ditto.

Typically, people choose to cut cycles short for 2 reasons. 1 being that gains will eventually slow, EVEN WITH A GREAT DIET. 2, it's harder to come back after relatively long cycles. (16+ weeks) It also has a lot to do with the compounds in the cycle.

Some will find their gains early on in the cycle, others break out in the last leg. I'm the type that breaks out late, where I'll see the best gains after 8 weeks when running long estered compounds.

Find what works for you.

1buffsob

[juiceboxxx]

4-6 week cycle of test e? give me a break! thats just the timing that it will kick in.

[Liftnainez]

4-6 week cycle of test e? give me a break! thats just the timing that it will kick in.

Thank you.. thats what i have been trying to say the WHOLE time, but those 2 just dont get it... whatever..

[juiceboxxx]

Thank you.. thats what i have been trying to say the WHOLE time, but those 2 just dont get it... whatever..

Well you did your job to try to HELP them so if they dont want to seek or listen to PROPER advice then let them learn the hard way.

[Liftnainez]

Well you did your job to try to HELP them so if they dont want to seek or listen to PROPER advice then let them learn the hard way.

Thanks bro.. Theres only so much I can do to help or advise but theres only so much one can do.. some people are just to damn obstinate..

[Liftnainez]

bro drop it.. Im not changing my opinion.. fast acting compounds are better used for shorter cycles.. if you want to teach people how to speak go elsewhere.. thanks torti