belly fat

[Superhuman]

okay, so i'm @ about 10% bodyfat right now and i'm look pretty ripped everywhere - except for my abs!!! they have always been a problem area. At 10% or lower, they should usually show with no problem, right? There are a bunch of guys who gain lots of weight off-season and go up to 15% and you can still see their abs. Am I doing something wrong?

[Mesomorphyl]

Some people are born with excellent genetics... I would attribute your challenge to genetics.

[Superhuman]

also, I never go medium or heavy for abs, I always do low weight/high reps. My reasoning behind this is that I'm not trying to make my abs bigger because I want a small waist, you know? is that a mistake, should I start throwing in some heavy ab work?

[Mesomorphyl]

also, I never go medium or heavy for abs, I always do low weight/high reps. My reasoning behind this is that I'm not trying to make my abs bigger because I want a small waist, you know? is that a mistake, should I start throwing in some heavy ab work?

I work abs like my other muscles, sets and intensity... at 10% or lower you may just have to get elective surgery(cosmetic) done.

[slimsc]

okay, so i'm @ about 10% bodyfat right now and i'm look pretty ripped everywhere - except for my abs!!! they have always been a problem area. At 10% or lower, they should usually show with no problem, right? There are a bunch of guys who gain lots of weight off-season and go up to 15% and you can still see their abs. Am I doing something wrong?

same here... i bumped my cardio up a few notches hoping to see a marked improvement...

[Tren Bull]

same here... i bumped my cardio up a few notches hoping to see a marked improvement...

doing excessive cardio only made my knees hurt. it did not make me lose the last little fat i had on my stomach/waist

imo the best way to get totally shreded is to run a heavy cutting cycle

[SMAN12b]

Depending on your age, and genetics. In men fat seems to hold on to the love handle area and lower back the most. It is usually the last place that fat will drop so you may have to take your BF% lower to have them come out.

Doing heavy weights with no more than 20 reps for abs would be my suggestion. Your waist is BELOW yoru abs and should not get wider because your abs are bigger. JMHO

[Mista Massive]

Depending on your age, and genetics. In men fat seems to hold on to the love handle area and lower back the most. It is usually the last place that fat will drop so you may have to take your BF% lower to have them come out.

Doing heavy weights with no more than 20 reps for abs would be my suggestion. Your waist is BELOW yoru abs and should not get wider because your abs are bigger. JMHO

i'd absolutley agree. Before i started training i was really skinny at like 6% body fat and everyone used to compliment me on my abs, and i'd never even worked them. Now, everyone says i have a gut but my other muscles are huge. Nearly all of my body fat is held around the love handles, stomach and lower back. Get Your fat % down even lower. Your Abs are there, i bet. The're just hiding.

[Smart@$$]

I have the same deal, even when skinny I had a layer of fat on the abs.

[Aesthetix]

ditto .. im about 10 % rite now .. my top 4 abs show and the bottom 4 dont .. its just a matter of lowering body fat even more .. maybe if u hit 5% or so you will see em real good .

[BOBBY D]

ditto .. im about 10 % rite now .. my top 4 abs show and the bottom 4 dont .. its just a matter of lowering body fat even more .. maybe if u hit 5% or so you will see em real good .

the solution to this is doing reverse crunches. alot of ppl seem to do regular sit ups, or cable pulls, but never do leg raises or reverse crunches.. they r very easy & way effective.

1. lie on ur back w/ ur hands on the back of ur head like u were to do leg raises.

2. instead of raiseing ur entire legs, just raise ur knees to ur chest as close as u can & drop them back down having ur feet touch the floor keeping ur legs bent at all times..

3. repeat back & forth, but the key is, as ur raising ur knees to ur chest slightly lift ur buttocks off the ground..

i garranty u do 50 of these @ 3-4 sets & u will feel this workout to be very effective. JMO

[Aesthetix]

the solution to this is doing reverse crunches. alot of ppl seem to do regular sit ups, or cable pulls, but never do leg raises or reverse crunches.. they r very easy & way effective.

1. lie on ur back w/ ur hands on the back of ur head like u were to do leg raises.

2. instead of raiseing ur entire legs, just raise ur knees to ur chest as close as u can & drop them back down having ur feet touch the floor keeping ur legs bent at all times..

3. repeat back & forth, but the key is, as ur raising ur knees to ur chest slightly lift ur buttocks off the ground..

i garranty u do 50 of these @ 3-4 sets & u will feel this workout to be very effective. JMO

bobby i did not mention my ab routine so how can you judge weather i do leg lifts or not ?? just for your info .. i dont do situps at all .. i do leg lifts and leg tucks ONLY .

[BOBBY D]

bobby i did not mention my ab routine so how can you judge weather i do leg lifts or not ?? just for your info .. i dont do situps at all .. i do leg lifts and leg tucks ONLY .

bro i was talking to the man who started the thread, i dont know what u read wrong....

[MMA]

the solution to this is doing reverse crunches. alot of ppl seem to do regular sit ups, or cable pulls, but never do leg raises or reverse crunches.. they r very easy & way effective.

1. lie on ur back w/ ur hands on the back of ur head like u were to do leg raises.

2. instead of raiseing ur entire legs, just raise ur knees to ur chest as close as u can & drop them back down having ur feet touch the floor keeping ur legs bent at all times..

3. repeat back & forth, but the key is, as ur raising ur knees to ur chest slightly lift ur buttocks off the ground..

i garranty u do 50 of these @ 3-4 sets & u will feel this workout to be very effective. JMO

you might want to research this further. Dr. Katch at University of Mass/Amherst did the definitive study on the subject. he had his test subjects do all kinds of ab work, and at the end of the study, they all had extremely strong ab muscles...covered with the same amount of fat they had at the beginning of the study. the conclusion was that there is no such thing as "spot reduction". a calorie burned by ab work is no more likely to burn abdominal fat than a calorie burned by any other method.

all those guys selling special "ab machines" on those midnight infomercials are selling BS to suckers. anyone who does any kind of ab work has the musculature for a sixpack. the hard part is paring down the bodyfat that is covering it. there is no special gimmick exercise that will do this - it comes down a disciplined diet, cardio, and hard work in the gym (a pound of muscle burns calories 24 hours a day). and of course, good genetics. but just because it's easy for you , don't assume it's easy for others. the are AMAZING world class athletes like Fedor Emelianko, who looks like an unimpressive balding man with a pot belly - but he DESTROYS his opponents with a combination of skill, endless cardio, lightning speed and explosive power. he trains much harder than you do, but has never come close to "looking" like an athlete.

[marcus300]

you might want to research this further. Dr. Katch at University of Mass/Amherst did the definitive study on the subject. he had his test subjects do all kinds of ab work, and at the end of the study, they all had extremely strong ab muscles...covered with the same amount of fat they had at the beginning of the study. the conclusion was that there is no such thing as "spot reduction". a calorie burned by ab work is no more likely to burn abdominal fat than a calorie burned by any other method.

all those guys selling special "ab machines" on those midnight infomercials are selling BS to suckers. anyone who does any kind of ab work has the musculature for a sixpack. the hard part is paring down the bodyfat that is covering it. there is no special gimmick exercise that will do this - it comes down a disciplined diet, cardio, and hard work in the gym (a pound of muscle burns calories 24 hours a day). and of course, good genetics. but just because it's easy for you , don't assume it's easy for others. the are AMAZING world class athletes like Fedor Emelianko, who looks like an unimpressive balding man with a pot belly - but he DESTROYS his opponents with a combination of skill, endless cardio, lightning speed and explosive power. he trains much harder than you do, but has never come close to "looking" like an athlete.

All i can say is that it works, ive seen it work and at the moment am doing some personal studies and fat is on the move, i do know there are different strengths of this product and many are watered down, if the correct product is used and the right strength i am convinced it works.

[cmax]

All i can say is that it works, ive seen it work and at the moment am doing some personal studies and fat is on the move, i do know there are different strengths of this product and many are watered down, if the correct product is used and the right strength i am convinced it works.

Marcus, you should take before and after photos to show everyone how well it works.

There are some impressive before and after photos out there if you run the words "mesotherapy before and after" on Google images. These procedures are becoming so popular and thousands of new doctors will start practicing these procedures over the next few years. I wish that I could invest in Mesotherapy stock.

[MMA]

All i can say is that it works, ive seen it work and at the moment am doing some personal studies and fat is on the move, i do know there are different strengths of this product and many are watered down, if the correct product is used and the right strength i am convinced it works.

marcus, i wasn't critiquing your method (which sounds like it may be legit), i was critiquing an earlier post where someone said "just do my special set of ab exercises and you'll have a sixpack". if it was that simple, EVERYONE would have a sixpack. and just because some geneticly gifted guy can do it with that routine doesn't mean everyone will have the same results.

[BUYLONGTERM]

Anyone ever do liposuction? I don't think I can ever get rid of the fat around my waist.

[Mesomorphyl]

Anyone ever do liposuction? I don't think I can ever get rid of the fat around my waist.

When I was lower on the bf, I thought about it... ended up doing dnp. I think if I get in the 11-12% range I am going to do it. My lower abs will cost about 5K at the doc I was looking at, she calls it sculpting and gets it all out inbetween the stomach muscles. The only thing is if I gain weight will it look like a fat 6 pack? lmao

[magic32]

Anyone ever do liposuction? I don't think I can ever get rid of the fat around my waist.

Liposuction is passe (too long, has painful and downtime recovery span)!

Marcus and I have been investigating the latest in plastic surgery...LIPODISSOLVE, they simply inject you in 2-3 sessions and you're done.

Take a gander:

http://www.skinspirations.info/lipo.php

http://www.asal-meso.com/html/transform.htm#

http://www.myfatdissolve.com/faq.html

M.

[cfiler]

Liposuction is passe (too long, has painful and downtime recovery span)!

Marcus and I have been investigating the latest in plastic surgery...LIPODISSOLVE, they simply inject you in 2-3 sessions and you're done.

Take a gander:

http://www.skinspirations.info/lipo.php

http://www.asal-meso.com/html/transform.htm#

http://www.myfatdissolve.com/faq.html

M.

Interesting. I may have to look into that.

[BUYLONGTERM]

Liposuction is passe (too long, has painful and downtime recovery span)!

Marcus and I have been investigating the latest in plastic surgery...LIPODISSOLVE, they simply inject you in 2-3 sessions and you're done.

Take a gander:

http://www.skinspirations.info/lipo.php

http://www.asal-meso.com/html/transform.htm#

http://www.myfatdissolve.com/faq.html

M.

How much does this cost? I am very interested in it.

[marcus300]

How much does this cost? I am very interested in it.

A friend of mine as just had this done with very good results, it cost him a alot of money per amp but he was happy with the outcome, ive been researching it over the past few weeks and finally located some and hopefully will be having a nice parcel arriving soon for my friend,

He had fatty tissue around his nips and he had 4 treatments and its all gone and now he wants to start on his love handles, all ive heard is good things about it, will update when it arrives

[oldman]

A friend of mine as just had this done with very good results, it cost him a alot of money per amp but he was happy with the outcome, ive been researching it over the past few weeks and finally located some and hopefully will be having a nice parcel arriving soon for my friend,

He had fatty tissue around his nips and he had 4 treatments and its all gone and now he wants to start on his love handles, all ive heard is good things about it, will update when it arrives

So you are going to do this yourself.. what I mean is administer it yourself and not go to the doctor? It seems simple enough stick it in the fat and push the plunger.. This would be a dream come true for many but people will abuse it thinking they could go from 25% BF to 10% using this.

I would be interested in your results please share them.


~Old

[cmax]

A friend of mine as just had this done with very good results, it cost him a alot of money per amp but he was happy with the outcome, ive been researching it over the past few weeks and finally located some and hopefully will be having a nice parcel arriving soon for my friend,

He had fatty tissue around his nips and he had 4 treatments and its all gone and now he wants to start on his love handles, all ive heard is good things about it, will update when it arrives

Marcus, I recently ordered some injectable Phosphatidylcholine which is the active ingredient in Lipostabil. Is this the same active ingredient used in Lipodisolve?

I know someone who used Phosphatidylcholine with great results. It seems to take a few treatments to work really well. I am surprised that more places do not offer these type of treatments.

[gained75]

He had fatty tissue around his nips and he had 4 treatments and its all gone and now he wants to start on his love handles, all ive heard is good things about it, will update when it arrives

hey marcus this is my problem as well, ive got some extra fat (dont think its gyno cause its not hard behind my nip) and its weird cause i only see it when im hot, cause when i get cold my nipps tighten up and my chest looks perfect. is this the same prob your friend had? i beleive its fat so i hope this treatment will help me as well, BUMP

[oldman]

Liposuction is passe (too long, has painful and downtime recovery span)!

Marcus and I have been investigating the latest in plastic surgery...LIPODISSOLVE, they simply inject you in 2-3 sessions and you're done.

Take a gander:

http://www.skinspirations.info/lipo.php

http://www.asal-meso.com/html/transform.htm#

http://www.myfatdissolve.com/faq.html

M.

http://www.asal-meso.com/html/asna/find-a-doc_usa.htm

Find a local doctor.

~Old

[magic32]

http://www.asal-meso.com/html/asna/find-a-doc_usa.htm

Find a local doctor.

~Old

Good post Old.

I'll add this page to my stateside data. Thanks.

M.

[R&D]

Liposuction is passe (too long, has painful and downtime recovery span)!

Marcus and I have been investigating the latest in plastic surgery...LIPODISSOLVE, they simply inject you in 2-3 sessions and you're done.

Take a gander:

http://www.skinspirations.info/lipo.php

http://www.asal-meso.com/html/transform.htm#

http://www.myfatdissolve.com/faq.html

M.

Now that's an interesting way to reduce fat! I wonder if we could DIY at home?

EDIT: After reading the rest of the thread, it seems you guys are one step ahead of me. So where do I get some guys???

[smeyers]

I wish I could remember where I saw people talking about this before. There's some place, I think in Brazil, that mostly caters their product to doctors, but anyone can buy. This was like 2 years back and I thought I wrote it down some where but I can't find the blastid notebook.

However, I do know that getting done by a doc is definatly not cheap. I balked at it b/c I wasn't sure if it would work as advertized, but now that I'm hearing the results, I might have to save up for the doc if I can't find anywhere to buy it.

The doc said it would cost $400 a session, and if I got two sessions at one office visit it's a total of $600,.......so an extra $200. Now I'm not sure if what he said is true, but he told me that it works better on the more superior body parts........so submental will get better results than say the love handles/flanks. Also I'm not sure if being in a smaller city, (Pittsburgh), would make the procedure less expensive than in comparison to that of a larger city.

[AleX-69]

I have 40 Amps of 5ML Lipostabil at home.. My gf wanted to try it.. Not that she is fat or anything just real small areas where fat covers her abs. I'll begin treatment in the mid july.

General guildline is 0.5ml per cm² of the treated area (subq). In border regions of the treated area 0.25ml per cm² should be injected, otherwise dents may develop in these regions.

Lipostabil costs approx 35€ for 5 x 5ml. Almost every open minded doc in germany will prescribe it. After all you did not need a recepit for it at all until April '06.

[aadrenaline]

Liposuction is passe (too long, has painful and downtime recovery span)!

Marcus and I have been investigating the latest in plastic surgery...LIPODISSOLVE, they simply inject you in 2-3 sessions and you're done.

Take a gander:

http://www.skinspirations.info/lipo.php

http://www.asal-meso.com/html/transform.htm#

http://www.myfatdissolve.com/faq.html

M.

only $150 for a kit that lasts 5 sessions...hmm can you do this yourself?

[Surrender]

Liposuction is passe (too long, has painful and downtime recovery span)!

Marcus and I have been investigating the latest in plastic surgery...

I have to dis agree with the above statement. I had it done on the love handles 15 days before Xmas of 2004. I was down a week and the discomfort wasn't bad at all. As for pain you feel a little bruised for a few days. I had hugh obliques and now have none.

[NCNPC29]

Anyone ever do liposuction? I don't think I can ever get rid of the fat around my waist.

Don't know anyone that's had lipo before but I know two individuals who had some etching done when they were around 10%. Cost around 3K. One had etching done around his Pecs after gyno surgery. Literally night and day. One day his chest sucked... 8 weeks later absolutley awesome shape. The other one had the etching around his abs/intercostals/lower back.... big, difference. Something I would definitely do If I had the extra cash.

[ascendant]

Anyone ever do liposuction? I don't think I can ever get rid of the fat around my waist.

a big issue i'd have with that personally is that once the lipo has been done, you won't be able to accurately measure your bf% for quite some time. not sure how long it will take for the bf to distribute itself evenly over your body again, but it might never balance out the same as it had been.

also another concern is as others have already mentioned, the recovery time.

[theforce3169]

Anyone ever do liposuction? I don't think I can ever get rid of the fat around my waist.

Liposuction doesnt work....I know, I've done it. For me, I had been overweight my whole life and averaging between 270 and 316 for about 4 or 5 years.......
I was told that a tummy tuck is the only way to get rid of my extra flab. I am scared tho, because they are going to make an incision into your stomach (and into the muscle) My core is already pretty weak and am not ready to go that route......just yet.....

[magic32]

Liposuction doesnt work....I know, I've done it. For me, I had been overweight my whole life and averaging between 270 and 316 for about 4 or 5 years.......
I was told that a tummy tuck is the only way to get rid of my extra flab. I am scared tho, because they are going to make an incision into your stomach (and into the muscle) My core is already pretty weak and am not ready to go that route......just yet.....

If you've done it what's there to be scared of the second time?

M.

[SMAN12b]

Well, I have been blessed with good genetics for abs. That is them at about 3%,, I am 15% now and 6 are showing nicely. But my calves SUCK !!!!!

[mwolffey]

Well, I have been blessed with good genetics for abs. That is them at about 3%,, I am 15% now and 6 are showing nicely. But my calves SUCK !!!!!

i feel you pain

[svarturer]

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