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    Need another compound to add to cycle

    I'm wanting input for adding another compound to my upcoming cycle. This will be my 5th cycle but I have been natty for about 2 years. This is what I'm going to run so far.

    Test E: weeks 1-14 @ 500mg/wk (might push it to 750mg)
    Deca: weeks 1-12 @ 500mg/wk
    Arimidex: weeks 1-19 @.25mg/day
    HCG: week 7@ 1500 I.U. (500mg every 3rd day)

    **Not including PCT in this post because it doesn't pertain.

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    Masteron propionate @150mg EOD 1-10

    Or

    Dianabol 60mg ED 1-5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Masteron propionate @150mg EOD 1-10

    Or

    Dianabol 60mg ED 1-5
    Don't want the D-bol

    If I added Masteron, should I switch the Deca to EQ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple X
    Don't want the D-bol

    If I added Masteron, should I switch the Deca to EQ?

    No, why would you ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    No, why would you ?
    Masteron works quite well when combined with EQ.

    Plus, I think EQ may be a better choice than Deca

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple X
    Masteron works quite well when combined with EQ.

    Plus, I think EQ may be a better choice than Deca

    How does masteron work well when combined with masteron ?

    Do whatever you choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple X
    I'm wanting input for adding another compound to my upcoming cycle. This will be my 5th cycle but I have been natty for about 2 years. This is what I'm going to run so far.

    Test E: weeks 1-14 @ 500mg/wk (might push it to 750mg)
    Deca: weeks 1-12 @ 500mg/wk
    Arimidex: weeks 1-19 @.25mg/day
    HCG: week 7@ 1500 I.U. (500mg every 3rd day)

    **Not including PCT in this post because it doesn't pertain.

    dude, what do you want out of this cycle? you want a bulker, or a clean bulker or what? you have to give this info so that we know what to recommend

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    Quote Originally Posted by std4
    dude, what do you want out of this cycle? you want a bulker, or a clean bulker or what? you have to give this info so that we know what to recommend
    Well if i wanted to cut then I wouldn't have Test and Deca listed now would I? I'm going for a bulk but I am leaving out the D-bol because I don't want the water retention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple X
    Well if i wanted to cut then I wouldn't have Test and Deca listed now would I? I'm going for a bulk but I am leaving out the D-bol because I don't want the water retention.

    So you are bulking and think EQ is a good choice?

    This water weight bullshit is blown out of proportion. You wanna get huge or what? then deal with a little ****in water retention, big deal.

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    so when you want a bulker go with the deca. it will give you more mass than the eq. if you choose the eq you will have less gains, but you will be less bloated. in this sense the eq will be more apropriate for clean bulker and the deca for a bulker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by std4
    so when you want a bulker go with the deca. it will give you more mass than the eq. if you choose the eq you will have less gains, but you will be less bloated. in this sense the eq will be more apropriate for clean bulker and the deca for a bulker.
    What is this clean bulker shit?! It's just water!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by std4
    so when you want a bulker go with the deca. it will give you more mass than the eq. if you choose the eq you will have less gains, but you will be less bloated. in this sense the eq will be more apropriate for clean bulker and the deca for a bulker.

    I don't get why ppl say this. Clean bulker better with EQ? Deca does not give much bloat if your diet is clean, especially if your running an AI. Test bloats more IMO. You can cut on deca if you go about it correctly. More drier gains with deca, because after all, deca will give MORE MUSCLE GAINS then EQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    I don't get why ppl say this. Clean bulker better with EQ? Deca does not give much bloat if your diet is clean, especially if your running an AI. Test bloats more IMO. You can cut on deca if you go about it correctly. More drier gains with deca, because after all, deca will give MORE MUSCLE GAINS then EQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    I don't get why ppl say this. Clean bulker better with EQ? Deca does not give much bloat if your diet is clean, especially if your running an AI. Test bloats more IMO. You can cut on deca if you go about it correctly. More drier gains with deca, because after all, deca will give MORE MUSCLE GAINS then EQ.
    Sodium intake also is a major contributor to water retention and people dont worry much about that.

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    hey bro ive treid both deca and eq in past cycles, and in my opinion eq gave me better results, because there was less water retention and as i said more drier gains in muscle mass when compared to deca, differnet bros will have different goals i myself dont like the bloat and all the water you will hold running deca and test so i choose to run eq instead

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    All this "drier gains" and "Quality muscle" is rediculous.

    Ask anyone what is better at BUILDING MUSCLE, boldenone or nandrolone, tell me what they say.

    You guys need to think for yourselfs and research more instead of relying on what you see parroted across the boards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    All this "drier gains" and "Quality muscle" is rediculous.

    Ask anyone what is better at BUILDING MUSCLE, boldenone or nandrolone, tell me what they say.

    You guys need to think for yourselfs and research more instead of relying on what you see parroted across the boards.
    AND YOU NEED TO QUIT BEING SUCH AN ASSHOLE! SEEMS LIKE YOU THE ONE PARROTING HERE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple X
    AND YOU NEED TO QUIT BEING SUCH AN ASSHOLE! SEEMS LIKE YOU THE ONE PARROTING HERE.

    Well ****, someone tries to help you and you say "No I dont wanna do that, this is better" then don't ask for help if you ****in know everything (Which BTW you don't)

    Have fun bulkin on yer masteron boldenone cycle. Should be great without water retention and quality dry gains since boldenone is simialr to deca.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Well ****, someone tries to help you and you say "No I dont wanna do that, this is better" then don't ask for help if you ****in know everything (Which BTW you don't)

    Have fun bulkin on yer masteron boldenone cycle. Should be great without water retention and quality dry gains since boldenone is simialr to deca.
    **** dude, give me a break. I said I didn't want to add D-Bol, THEN SIMPLY ASKED if I should switch Deca to EQ. Go back and re-read!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Well ****, someone tries to help you and you say "No I dont wanna do that, this is better" then don't ask for help if you ****in know everything (Which BTW you don't)

    Have fun bulkin on yer masteron boldenone cycle. Should be great without water retention and quality dry gains since boldenone is simialr to deca.
    bro why are you freaking out on everyone, all the bro wanted was cycle advice not to be lectured and cussed out

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    bro why are you freaking out on everyone, all the bro wanted was cycle advice not to be lectured and cussed out

    Yea yea yea. Lets get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    All this "drier gains" and "Quality muscle" is rediculous.

    Ask anyone what is better at BUILDING MUSCLE, boldenone or nandrolone, tell me what they say.

    You guys need to think for yourselfs and research more instead of relying on what you see parroted across the boards.

    You are right, Deca would be better for building muscle. BUT for strength gains and drier gains, EQ is better.

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    I agree.. I was gonna say masteron before I read skull's posts.

    Test, Deca, Masteron.. Sounds sweet. And then you shouldn't even need an AI, just keep it on hand.

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    Seems like YOU think you know everything so why ask for others opinion?

    Deca>EQ fo sho.

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    Drier gains?! lol.. Interesting concept.

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    ANYWAY, I do like your proposal of adding Masteron. I have never tried the compound but it seems quite popular. I will add it at around 400mg/wk, drop the Arimidex (most likely), Drop the Deca to 400mg as well.

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    Ok, forget it look

    I would run the masteron @ 4-500 and the deca 5-6OO adn the test @ whatever you liek but I personally wouldnt use more than 250mg a week.

    You don't have to drop the arimidex but the masteron willl help a lot with estrogen reduction. Maybe .25mg - .5mg adex ED to be safe since youre still using deca. Shit, you could KEEP the dbol in there too and get growth from another mechanism. That is actually the same exact cycle I am on, just fast esters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Ok, forget it look

    I would run the masteron @ 4-500 and the deca 5-6OO adn the test @ whatever you liek but I personally wouldnt use more than 250mg a week.

    You don't have to drop the arimidex but the masteron willl help a lot with estrogen reduction. Maybe .25mg - .5mg adex ED to be safe since youre still using deca. Shit, you could KEEP the dbol in there too and get growth from another mechanism. That is actually the same exact cycle I am on, just fast esters.
    O.K. just wondering why you suggest running Test at such a low dose?
    Thanks for the other info. I guess you are right, having dex can't hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple X
    O.K. just wondering why you suggest running Test at such a low dose?
    Thanks for the other info. I guess you are right, having dex can't hurt.

    Just because for me, personally, I don't like test that much. I like to save room for more useful compounds like nandrolone. Maybe test is great for you though so you will have to run a dose and see for yourself. And no, deca does not have to be lower than test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Just because for me, personally, I don't like test that much. I like to save room for more useful compounds like nandrolone. Maybe test is great for you though so you will have to run a dose and see for yourself. And no, deca does not have to be lower than test.

    Cool, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Ok, forget it look

    I would run the masteron @ 4-500 and the deca 5-6OO adn the test @ whatever you liek but I personally wouldnt use more than 250mg a week.

    You don't have to drop the arimidex but the masteron willl help a lot with estrogen reduction. Maybe .25mg - .5mg adex ED to be safe since youre still using deca. Shit, you could KEEP the dbol in there too and get growth from another mechanism. That is actually the same exact cycle I am on, just fast esters.
    doesnt masteron and deca shut you down pretty hard, wouldnt you have to run test at a higher dosage than both masteron and deca

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    Quote Originally Posted by GHO5T
    doesnt masteron and deca shut you down pretty hard, wouldnt you have to run test at a higher dosage than both masteron and deca

    See, this kinda shows what you really know man, not to be an asshole but seriously.

    A little bit more with both compounds ? Possbily, but I cant imagine having to run more than 2-300mg, it just wouldnt make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GHO5T
    doesnt masteron and deca shut you down pretty hard, wouldnt you have to run test at a higher dosage than both masteron and deca


    You call on what I said then you type this statement......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Ok, forget it look

    I would run the masteron @ 4-500 and the deca 5-6OO adn the test @ whatever you liek but I personally wouldnt use more than 250mg a week.

    You don't have to drop the arimidex but the masteron willl help a lot with estrogen reduction. Maybe .25mg - .5mg adex ED to be safe since youre still using deca. Shit, you could KEEP the dbol in there too and get growth from another mechanism. That is actually the same exact cycle I am on, just fast esters.
    no wonder your so pissed off bro, you prolly lost all functions of your di<k

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    Quote Originally Posted by GHO5T
    no wonder your so pissed off bro, you prolly lost all functions of your di<k

    Lol, can you explain your reasoning behind that idea as well ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Lol, can you explain your reasoning behind that idea as well ?

    This guys a misinformed loony toon. (ghost)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellmask
    This guys a misinformed loony toon. (ghost)

    It seems that way doesn't it.

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    And furthermore, I am not even sure if there is varying degrees of which someone can be shutdown .........

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    I think you'd be surprised how many people still think you need to run 600mg of test since you're running 500mg of deca.

    Prob around half the people on this site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skipp
    I think you'd be surprised how many people still think you need to run 600mg of test since you're running 500mg of deca.

    Prob around half the people on this site.

    Think so?

    I dunno ..........

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