Which of the three is the fastest fat burner??

[TheMachine]

Please vote and describe any experineces you had with them. Also, please tell me how they compare to MAN Scorch in terms of fast fat burning.

Thanks!

[TheMachine]

Bump, first one to 12 wins

[TheMachine]

B-u-m-p

[topvega]

B-u-m-p

Where do I vote for proper diet/cardio?

Even though I wldn't touch the stuff.. DNP has all of them beat hands down.... but then again so does AIDS...

[guest589745]

Where do I vote for proper diet/cardio?

Even though I wldn't touch the stuff.. DNP has all of them beat hands down.... but then again so does AIDS...

Lmao.

[topvega]

Lmao.

Hehe... it's only funny because it's true.

[*Narkissos*]

*Looks around for IGF/GH/Slin question.. Finds none. Moves thread*

[*Narkissos*]

^^ You do realise you're asking for a comparision between 3 fat burning drugs.. and a supplement (scorch) right?

[BlInDsIdE]

DNP and T3 r the best fat burning drugs

[king6]

DNP and T3 r the best fat burning drugs

DNP = Evil.

[cj1capp]

DNP and T3 r the best fat burning drugs

bumpig his answer

[*Narkissos*]

^^ Ditto.. wouldnt' venture near that shit again.

Clen either for that matter

[TinTin78]

^^ Ditto.. wouldnt' venture near that shit again.

Clen either for that matter

May I ask what you use for fatburning pre-contest Nark?

[*Narkissos*]

May I ask what you use for fatburning pre-contest Nark?

Lemme see.

I've been doing this for 9 years (7 competing)... so i gotta back track.

In my earlier contest preps: High-intensity training; diet (no cardio); ECA (ripped fuel 2) in the latter stages of prep.

For my later preps: High-intensity high volume training; diet (no cardio); posing; ECAY (ripped fuel + yohimbe)

For two preps (in one year...a while back) i used clen + diet (no cardio) + HIT volume training... and then never again.

I used t3 (21 days: 25 mcgs) + insulin in one prep... + diet + cardio + green tea extract (thermogenic support) + HIT volume training... dropped 40 lbs of fat

I used t4 (duration) + t3 + slin (4 weeks) + igf-1 (10 days) + cardio + diet + HIT volume training...in my last contest prep. Lost 40 lbs of fat


As you'll see... diet + training is the only common factor.

No steroids in the mix either.

Diet and training are the only 'true' and essential fat burning compounds... even to a greater degree than cardio.

Nark

[TinTin78]

Lemme see.

I've been doing this for 9 years (7 competing)... so i gotta back track.

In my earlier contest preps: High-intensity training; diet (no cardio); ECA (ripped fuel 2) in the latter stages of prep.

For my later preps: High-intensity high volume training; diet (no cardio); posing; ECAY (ripped fuel + yohimbe)

For two preps (in one year...a while back) i used clen + diet (no cardio) + HIT volume training... and then never again.

I used t3 (21 days: 25 mcgs) + insulin in one prep... + diet + cardio + green tea extract (thermogenic support) + HIT volume training... dropped 40 lbs of fat

I used t4 (duration) + t3 + slin (4 weeks) + igf-1 (10 days) + cardio + diet + HIT volume training...in my last contest prep. Lost 40 lbs of fat


As you'll see... diet + training is the only common factor.

No steroids in the mix either.

Diet and training are the only 'true' and essential fat burning compounds... even to a greater degree than cardio.

Nark

That is nice to hear, so you would just recommend using a good clean low carb diet with high intensity training? No ECA or other stuff? Do you not loose alot of muscles when you cut without roids?

[*Narkissos*]

That is nice to hear, so you would just recommend using a good clean low carb diet with high intensity training?

No i'm not a low-carb proponent.

The lowest my carbs may go at any point (and not for an extended time either: maybe a day) is @ 150 gr

Low-carb and high intensity volume training and low-carb dieting aren't compatible.

Carbs are necessary for volume training and the maintenance of hight intensity under otherwise restrictive conditions...

The volume and high intensity are necessary to stimulate and maintain a high metabolic rate.. and high caloric expenditure.

No ECA or other stuff?

Optional additions in the latter stages.

Never at the beginning.

The base of a fat-burning regime is diet and training.. not supplements

Supplements.. are meant to supplement.

Do you not loose alot of muscles when you cut without roids?

Not to any significant degree.

[Manpretty]

I used t4 (duration) + t3 + slin (4 weeks) + igf-1 (10 days) + cardio + diet + HIT volume training...in my last contest prep. Lost 40 lbs of fat


Nark

thats nuts man 40lbs OF FAT???????
i looked at your pict and you cant be much more than 10-12% offseason....how much do you weight dude it would have to be like 350-400lbs for that to make sence

[dogfight]

Lemme see.

I've been doing this for 9 years (7 competing)... so i gotta back track.

In my earlier contest preps: High-intensity training; diet (no cardio); ECA (ripped fuel 2) in the latter stages of prep.

For my later preps: High-intensity high volume training; diet (no cardio); posing; ECAY (ripped fuel + yohimbe)

For two preps (in one year...a while back) i used clen + diet (no cardio) + HIT volume training... and then never again.

I used t3 (21 days: 25 mcgs) + insulin in one prep... + diet + cardio + green tea extract (thermogenic support) + HIT volume training... dropped 40 lbs of fat

I used t4 (duration) + t3 + slin (4 weeks) + igf-1 (10 days) + cardio + diet + HIT volume training...in my last contest prep. Lost 40 lbs of fat


As you'll see... diet + training is the only common factor.

No steroids in the mix either.

Diet and training are the only 'true' and essential fat burning compounds... even to a greater degree than cardio.

Nark

ok im sorry an im sure you have experince but,( HIT volume trainning) that sounds like Michael Jackson you know white but black. true H.I.T tranning has nothing to do with volume.

[king6]

Clen is some wild stuff. I did 80mcg the other day, split it up 20 in the morning and 20 in the afternoon, I woke up that night drenched in sweat. I think I will only do it for 2 weeks, the sides kind of suck.

[*Narkissos*]

ok im sorry an im sure you have experince but,( HIT volume trainning) that sounds like Michael Jackson you know white but black. true H.I.T tranning has nothing to do with volume.

Where above did you see me state that i'm a proponent of 'H.I.T.'?

HIT is simply an acronym for High intensity training.

Did i say i use the 'HIT program'?

No.

What i clearly said is that i use high intensity.. and high volume.

FYI: GVT is high intensity.. and it's high volume.

Go look up the defination of high intensity with regard to weight-training.

We'll wait.

[guest589745]

Running.

[shrpskn]

I've never found the need for chemical-induced fat burning...lower bf% has been very manageable for me with proper diet and cardio.

I therefore will not partake in the vote...

Best fat burner I know: Running 5 km/ed.

[TheMachine]

I run 7 miles a day but it's getting tiresome for me

[shrpskn]

What?..are you in basic training or something?...7 miles/ed is overkill...cut that at least in half and it shouldn't be so tiresome, yet you should still get the desired fat burning effects that come along with the cardio effort.

[*Narkissos*]

I run 7 miles a day but it's getting tiresome for me

That's a shitload of running.

It's past time to look at your diet.

[Haro3]

whats so brutal about dnp??

[magic32]

whats so brutal about dnp??

In a nutshell, "everything". Such a thing was never meant for consumption, human or other. It's literally used to kill pests.

M.

[guest589745]

The fact that it was used as an explosive ? Lol.



(I think)

[poloblue]

so far you guys are all wrong... the fastest drug to burn fat is "crack" hands down..

[topvega]

so far you guys are all wrong... the fastest drug to burn fat is "crack" hands down..

Well crack and AIDS come as a package deal around my parts...
A cpl crack rocks some unprotected sex and BINGO... U will just watch the weight fall off U....

[abcde]

so far you guys are all wrong... the fastest drug to burn fat is "crack" hands down..

LOL, crack or crank? (No, not speaking from experience, just heresay..)

[king6]

I'm running clen now, sides are not too bad, little shaky and jittery, and some insomnia but other than that I feel fine. Just started yesterday, hope it will work for me.

[KAEW44]

Running 5-7miles or Km a day is overkill for your legs and knees!!

I do interval cardio where i warm up on an elliptical for 15 minutes medium pace then i up the intensity level every 2-3 minutes or so so that towards the end 30-40min max i am doing a very heavy pace almost like a squat everytime i kick the pedal out and that really keeps me fit and lean. I call that one the mountain cause i just keep increasing the level.

The second way is actual interval bursts where you do the same warmup, then sprint one minute and slow down completly one minute and keep doing that for a few rounds. It helps me in sports it helps you get explosive even when you are tired, with time to make it challenging you can keep reducing the slow time to 30 seconds, then 15 seconds. But dont do this everyday its too much stress on your heart you should do it twice a week or three times max.

[TheMachine]

Running 5-7miles or Km a day is overkill for your legs and knees!!

I do interval cardio where i warm up on an elliptical for 15 minutes medium pace then i up the intensity level every 2-3 minutes or so so that towards the end 30-40min max i am doing a very heavy pace almost like a squat everytime i kick the pedal out and that really keeps me fit and lean. I call that one the mountain cause i just keep increasing the level.

The second way is actual interval bursts where you do the same warmup, then sprint one minute and slow down completly one minute and keep doing that for a few rounds. It helps me in sports it helps you get explosive even when you are tired, with time to make it challenging you can keep reducing the slow time to 30 seconds, then 15 seconds. But dont do this everyday its too much stress on your heart you should do it twice a week or three times max.

Yeah, it's like hell, but it's working for me. I lost 6 pounds in the last 6 days.

[shrpskn]

Running 5-7miles or Km a day is overkill for your legs and knees!!

I beg to differ...

There is a big difference between 5-7 miles and 5-7 km...

I've been running 3-5k/ed since I was in high school and it's been over a decade...my bf% also rarely exceeds 10% as well.

I have found that as I've added more muscular weight, that cardio has become a bit more taxing, but due to my conditioning and excellent health, I still manage to get it in...
IMHO, cardio and diet are paramount to mainting a low bf%.

-ShrpSkn

[topvega]

I beg to differ...

There is a big difference between 5-7 miles and 5-7 km...

I've been running 3-5k/ed since I was in high school and it's been over a decade...my bf% also rarely exceeds 10% as well.

I have found that as I've added more muscular weight, that cardio has become a bit more taxing, but due to my conditioning and excellent health, I still manage to get it in...
IMHO, cardio and diet are paramount to mainting a low bf%.

-ShrpSkn

Ditto.. cardio and diet are the key factors... Plus not letting yourself get Sloppy (Over 12% BF) is a big thing also... I don't do cardio my job is my cardio... but I have never been above 12% BF in my whole life so my needs are different then someone with say 18/20% BF

[moranitotongano]

I beg to differ...

There is a big difference between 5-7 miles and 5-7 km...

I've been running 3-5k/ed since I was in high school and it's been over a decade...my bf% also rarely exceeds 10% as well.

I have found that as I've added more muscular weight, that cardio has become a bit more taxing, but due to my conditioning and excellent health, I still manage to get it in...
IMHO, cardio and diet are paramount to mainting a low bf%.

-ShrpSkn

I agree. But if your really looking for a fast fix I hear weightloss PEPTIDE FRAGMENT 177-191 works well.

[shrpskn]

I agree. But if your really looking for a fast fix I hear weightloss PEPTIDE FRAGMENT 177-191 works well.

I don't need a fast fix...maybe you do, but I'm already there.

[G-1000]

Cardio and diet works best. That rest are supps to me.

By the way i hate clen.

[Ufa]

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