PCT doesn't work!

[BigLittleTim]

So, you've done a textbook-correct Post Cycle Therapy and your natural testosterone levels are still shitty; now what?

Doctors say "just wait a few months/years and natural levels MIGHT come back up again." This is NOT acceptable, needless to say.

Would regular administrations of H.C.G. be of benefit? At what dosage and at what frequency?

Heavy use of bulkers (Anadrol, D-bol) in the past, and... longer than recommended... cycle lengths, to say the least.

Is it time for permanent HRT?

Ideas? Experience? Feedback?

-BigLittleTim

[x_moe]

do another pct

[shifty_git]

well i dont look at ma pct as a set thing...

dont restrict ma self by saying so many weeks blah, then blah blah

keep the doses higher (within reccomended amounts of course) and keep doing it till u feel good n ya levels return, then taper down... just my way i like to do it

[BigLittleTim]

So another PCT? Same Nolvadex, HCG, Aromasin, Vitamin E, etc. just as before?

-BigLittleTim

[x_moe]

So another PCT? Same Nolvadex, HCG, Aromasin, Vitamin E, etc. just as before?

-BigLittleTim

sure

[Jakspro]

how many cycles? What was the last one? Did you get BW done before cycle and what were your levels then? What are they now? How long did you run PCT.
I won't be able to give you advice, but these questions might help you get more responses...
Bump for ya, Good luck

[BigLittleTim]

I'm 36 years old and have been cycling since college graduation, about fifteen years total.

Last cycle was 16 weeks:
750mg. Test. Cypionate / week
500mg. Deca / week
50mg. Anadrol-50 / day for first five weeks

P.C.T. was Hooker's modern new-standard PCT:

Week Nolvadex HCG Aromasin Vitamin E
1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
4 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
5 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
6 20mgs/day

Test. levels were 60 at end of last cycle. Took four months off and test. levels had increased to 90!! (300 to 900 is normal, with 600 average.)

Was sick of waiting so I did my cycle & P.C.T. (above) and am back at test. levels of 60.

Am I ready for permanent H.R.T.? Is P.C.T. supposed to result in a return to normal, healthy test. levels?

-BigLittleTim

[Lejes]

Do you think Deca could be the culprit here? I've read that when Test and Deca are run together, the Deca should be discontinued a few weeks before the Test is discontinued before PCT. I would only guess that Deca stuck around when you started your PCT or even past it?

[BigLittleTim]

Yes, I stopped Deca. a few weeks before the Test.

What I'm wondering is if PCT actually works for some guys, ie: it gets their natural testosterone production back to normal.

I think I might post this question in the H.R.T. forum for more responses...

-BigLittleTim

[RUI-Products]

Run a long Pct. It took me 2 month to get back from 2 years on.You should run Hcg till your testicles are back to size.

[BigLittleTim]

Run a long Pct. It took me 2 month to get back from 2 years on.You should run Hcg till your testicles are back to size.

Thanks for the real-world feedback, Lion. I came to PCT later in the game... so I have years of cycling without PCT from which to recover. Just want to know what to do, and reassurance that natural testosterone levels CAN come back eventually.

I'll plan an extended PCT, as you advise. Any other feedback would be great.

-BigLittleTim