Real/Fake Norma's?

[Dizz28]

This is a picture of the 2cc vial with box and pharmacy sticker. pharmacy sticker has water marks in them under UV lamp. I have better pictures of the vials a few threads down.......

The vial's label isn't placed perfect but it has some sort of water mark?? or Hologram?? in the label so when I reflected sunlight off the label you can see it. It's only on the label of the vial though and you can only see it when you put sunlight at an angle to it.

[powerbodybuilder]

Polish language?? It should be in Greek.

[powerbodybuilder]

Put more pics of the amp.

[Dizz28]

Here's a better picture (I hope). The expiration is exactly 2 1/2 years from date of manufacture and I understand that they are only made for 2 year Exp. That is the only thing we can find wrong with these vials


Hopefully you can see the Holograms/Water Marks on the labels I was talking about. If these are fakes, I must say they spent a lot of money developing the labels.

[Dizz28]

Bump TTT

opinions?

[powerbodybuilder]

I must be fuccking blind but I never seen a Polish writting on a Norma.

[Dizz28]

well, like I said, I think they were bought from a polish pharmacy. The guy these came from is a very respectable source and have heard no problems before....but there are so many fakes that I had to check.

Otherwise they look alright?

[powerbodybuilder]

If there is any other language than Greek on the amp than its fake 100%

[Weegiebol]

Bro, the writing on the pharmacy sticker is Greek, not Polish - and they look good to me

[Dizz28]

oh, Greek - Polish....I never was good at any other laguage. oh second thought, I just looked up the Greek language and it's definitely what's written on the bottles. So.....real?

They do have the new hologram labels...

[Dizz28]

bump

[judge_dread]

oh, Greek - Polish....I never was good at any other laguage. oh second thought, I just looked up the Greek language and it's definitely what's written on the bottles. So.....real?

They do have the new hologram labels...

Poland is a european country but it has nothing to do with Greece! Do u know GREECE?? HELLAS? Ancient Greeks? Hercules? Jason and the argonauts? Homer? (NOT Simpson) so pls learn some basic things and then speak about Polish and Greek writing!

[Dizz28]

Poland is a european country but it has nothing to do with Greece! Do u know GREECE?? HELLAS? Ancient Greeks? Hercules? Jason and the argonauts? Homer? (NOT Simpson) so pls learn some basic things and then speak about Polish and Greek writing!

Judge, this has to be one of the most worthless posts I've seen so far on this board.

Granted Goegraphy isn't one of my strong points but it's pretty well known that Poland is in Europe and has nothing to do with Greece.....hence the different names, locations and govenment....and the fact there are a couple countries in between them.

I hope your post made you feel somewhat smarter....because now, I definitely think you are. But in the future, refrain from these type of posts because they are totally worthless in all respects to what Outlaw is about not to mention my origional post.

One question though, where the hell did Hercules come into effect in this post?? I beleive he's a mythical character that can't be proven that he was a real man anyway, but I can't seem to find the relevance to the origional post at all. All I asked was if those Deca's were real....nothing about history of Greece or any other EU countries. For that, I can go back to college.

Second thought, please don't respond back. Please?

Dizz

[PROTEINSHAKE]

in the 2nd pic-the amp all the way to the right says ATHENS GR on it...I would bet that means ATHENS GREECE!!! the writing is greek & I cannot see the hologram labels in the pics but the caps look legit which is quite often a tell tale sign of norma fakes. they look good IMO.

[Dizz28]

Thanks, getnjakked. Like I said the source is very reliable but like someone said on this board....even sources get scammed sometimes...

Good to know they are real....Time to Grow

Dizz

[juicy_brucy]

Why don't you put the sticker under a UV black light and see if the watermark appears? take the sticker on the box tanning, or get a UV black light.

[Dizz28]

That is a good idea......

I'm sure one of my buddies has an old Black-light laying around in thier closet. I'll just ask to barrow it. So you think I could see them better under UV? That would explain me not seeing them unless sunlight hits them.

Well, if they do turn out fake.....ooooops I already have 6cc in my ass.

Thanks for ya'lls input

Dizz

[kwakisaki]

i have the exact same stuff here wid me! i am also curious to know if its real or not?

[kwakisaki]

so what do u guys think of this?

[kwakisaki]

but its good to know if these are real beacuse i want to start shooting,i have the exact same stuff !

[Dizz28]

I'm fairly certain they are real now, both because of other members being helpful and advising and also about 2 days of research on the new Norma labels.

[kwakisaki]

i have paid alot of money,for my dizz,but i think they look real but saying that normas are good for 2 years and my and yours are for 2,1/2 years so i dont know

[Dizz28]

that doesn' t mean anything. It would be like a bottle of Tylenol being made today and having a shelf like of 3 years, it sitting on the shelf for 2 years the finally gets bought. It would only have a year left on the expiration date.....see what I'm saying??

The shelf life doesn't really say anything about it being real or fake....unless the it's something rediculous like a 10 year shelf life or something.

Anyway, expiration dates aren't very accurate anyway. An expiration date is supposed to be at what point the medication retains >90% of it's activity in ideal conditions. Studies have been done and found that certain medications will retain thier activity for greater than 15 years after it's "expiration" date....just is going to be a little weaker because of degeneration..

Dizz

[kwakisaki]

that doesn' t mean anything. It would be like a bottle of Tylenol being made today and having a shelf like of 3 years, it sitting on the shelf for 2 years the finally gets bought. It would only have a year left on the expiration date.....see what I'm saying??

The shelf life doesn't really say anything about it being real or fake....unless the it's something rediculous like a 10 year shelf life or something.

Anyway, expiration dates aren't very accurate anyway. An expiration date is supposed to be at what point the medication retains >90% of it's activity in ideal conditions. Studies have been done and found that certain medications will retain thier activity for greater than 15 years after it's "expiration" date....just is going to be a little weaker because of degeneration..

Dizz

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[kwakisaki]

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[kwakisaki]

and it even says on the box 'filed for 2 years'

[kwakisaki]

did u put the sticker under black light? the box sticker?

[Dizz28]

did u put the sticker under black light? the box sticker?

no, I have neither put the Vial or box under black light but supposidly the pharmacy sticker that comes on the box will light up some sort of "water mark" mark or some kind under UV light. Same with the Vial. I did reflect sunlight at an angle off of the vial label and saw something that looked like a faint Hologram?/water mark? that covered the entire label....I think MichealCC posted this also. I'll look for the link he posted

[juicy_brucy]

no, I have neither put the Vial or box under black light but supposidly the pharmacy sticker that comes on the box will light up some sort of "water mark" mark or some kind under UV light. Same with the Vial. I did reflect sunlight at an angle off of the vial label and saw something that looked like a faint Hologram?/water mark? that covered the entire label....I think MichealCC posted this also. I'll look for the link he posted

The vial won't do much under the black light... no watermark on it. Only the sticker has the watermark on it.

[Dizz28]

The vial won't do much under the black light... no watermark on it. Only the sticker has the watermark on it.

but the Vial should have a kinda faint hologram when looked at at an angle also

[juicy_brucy]

but the Vial should have a kinda faint hologram when looked at at an angle also

The newer bottles do. yes. you should see a faint hologram. very hard to fake the new lables. at least I have heard of no "exact" fakes...

[judge_dread]

My whole lecture about Greece's history had to do with pointing out your ignorance to define Polish from Greek language, that's all ...μαλακα!

[Dizz28]

My whole lecture about Greece's history had to do with pointing out your ignorance to define Polish from Greek language, that's all ...μαλακα!

Ignorance insn't the word, I just don't know SH** about those languages so I made a mistake. My bad

Dizz

[juicy_brucy]

Okay. My normas are 100% real. here are the watermark pics. this is what yours will look like if they are real...

[Dizz28]

Cool....i need to try that....never seen it before but....IT'S ABOUT TIME NORMA DOES SOMETHING TO STOP FAKES!!!!

good post man

[juicy_brucy]

Cool....i need to try that....never seen it before but....IT'S ABOUT TIME NORMA DOES SOMETHING TO STOP FAKES!!!!

good post man

Norma doesn't do this... the pharmacy's in greece do! Anything that is Medicine that comes out of a pharmacy in greece will have a watermark on the price sticker.

[Dizz28]

Norma doesn't do this... the pharmacy's in greece do! Anything that is Medicine that comes out of a pharmacy in greece will have a watermark on the price sticker.

Interesting...I feel like a dumb ass now.....hence "pharmacy sticker"

Duh....sorry for my ignorance

[juicy_brucy]

I forgot to mention that there is no UV light on the first pic.

[juicy_brucy]

sorry? Don't be. everyone learns.

[Dizz28]

sorry? Don't be. everyone learns.

well regardsless, I'm tasting my foot right now.....