Ron Paul will run as an Independent(video)?

[convalescence69]

Official release from the Ron Paul campaign giving a progress report. He says some things there that allude to what he is going to do http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0nJH6zB9VM
For those of you that are giving up hope, don't.

[Logan13]

Official release from the Ron Paul campaign giving a progress report. He says some things there that allude to what he is going to do http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0nJH6zB9VM
For those of you that are giving up hope, don't.

That is not good, all it will do is give the Presidency to a Democrat. A third party is NOT GOING TO WIN the Whitehouse. As I have stated before, Ross Perot was much higher in the poles than Paul is and he still came in a very distant third. I'm glad that you guys have a cause, but it amounts to the same thing as a "rain dance" in its chance of succeeding. A rain dance that gives the Presidency to Hillary Clinton..........

[Carlos_E]

That is not good, all it will do is give the Presidency to a Democrat. A third party is NOT GOING TO WIN the Whitehouse. As I have stated before, Ross Perot was much higher in the poles than Paul is and he still came in a very distant third. I'm glad that you guys have a cause, but it amounts to the same thing as a "rain dance" in its chance of succeeding. A rain dance that gives the Presidency to Hillary Clinton..........

Say hello to your new president.

[soulstealer]

Say hello to your new president.

God I hope not..... As bad as I would love something anti establishment to occur like and end to old white guy monopoly... with a black or woman prez... their both such big douche bags I dont want either of em =P .... Clintons a lunatic with some sick evil agenda and baracks a sniveling little brat =P

Romney is just goona be a money grubbing loony mccain will start WW3 so will huckabee but he'll get us around the whole church and state thing as well some insane religious legislation I cant even think of right now a guiliana(or what the **** ever) will stage another 9-11 and make himself a hero...... again starting ww3 with someone... bleh

RON PAUL 2008

[soccer#3]

God I hope not..... As bad as I would love something anti establishment to occur like and end to old white guy monopoly... with a black or woman prez... their both such big douche bags I dont want either of em =P .... Clintons a lunatic with some sick evil agenda and baracks a sniveling little brat =P

Romney is just goona be a money grubbing loony mccain will start WW3 so will huckabee but he'll get us around the whole church and state thing as well some insane religious legislation I cant even think of right now a guiliana(or what the **** ever) will stage another 9-11 and make himself a hero...... again starting ww3 with someone... bleh

RON PAUL 2008

couldnt have said it better myself

[SMCengineer]

God I hope not..... As bad as I would love something anti establishment to occur like and end to old white guy monopoly... with a black or woman prez... their both such big douche bags I dont want either of em =P .... Clintons a lunatic with some sick evil agenda and baracks a sniveling little brat =P

Romney is just goona be a money grubbing loony mccain will start WW3 so will huckabee but he'll get us around the whole church and state thing as well some insane religious legislation I cant even think of right now a guiliana(or what the **** ever) will stage another 9-11 and make himself a hero...... again starting ww3 with someone... bleh

RON PAUL 2008

Agreed.

[Logan13]

Say hello to your new president.

Perhaps, but he would be better than Hillary. Although both of them want to raise my taxes to create socialized programs. Perhaps you are looking for a hand-out, so a Democrat would be your best bet. Just remember, voting for someone because of race is just as racist as not voting for someone because of race........

[soulstealer]

Perhaps, but he would be better than Hillary. Although both of them want to raise my taxes to create socialized programs. Perhaps you are looking for a hand-out, so a Democrat would be your best bet. Just remember, voting for someone because of race is just as racist as not voting for someone because of race........

I totally agree with you logan.... if I had to choose between obama and clinton I would choose obama....

[soccer#3]

I totally agree with you logan.... if I had to choose between obama and clinton I would choose obama....

same here

[Carlos_E]

Perhaps, but he would be better than Hillary. Although both of them want to raise my taxes to create socialized programs. Perhaps you are looking for a hand-out, so a Democrat would be your best bet. Just remember, voting for someone because of race is just as racist as not voting for someone because of race........

This has to be one of the dumbest comments I've seen you post.

Government hand out? I'm looking for a hand out? I probably make more money than you.

I'm voting for him because of race? Where did I say this? You're making an assumption. I thought you were more intelligent than this. ASSUMING someone Black is voting for someone because of race is racist. I actually supported Clinton. After following the campaign I do not support her platform. Also, she depends way to much on her husband. She's running for office, not him. Her being White or Obama being Black is irrelevant. You on the other hand think Black people are a separate species from you. And have the nerve to try and point out racism where there is none.

[Logan13]

This has to be one of the dumbest comments I've seen you post.

Government hand out? I'm looking for a hand out? I probably make more money than you.
Why else would you vote for someone that has promised to raise your taxes and redistribute to others? If you actually made that much money, you would not be in favor of this. As for making more money......
I'm voting for him because of race? Where did I say this? You're making an assumption. I thought you were more intelligent than this. ASSUMING someone Black is voting for someone because of race is racist. I actually supported Clinton. After following the campaign I do not support her platform. Also, she depends way to much on her husband. She's running for office, not him. Her being White or Obama being Black is irrelevant. You on the other hand think Black people are a separate species from you. And have the nerve to try and point out racism where there is none.

I did not say "Carlos is voting for obama only because he is black". I am simply tired of so many local blacks here saying this. Regardless that it may hurt your feelings, my point is a valid one.

[BG]

This has to be one of the dumbest comments I've seen you post.

Government hand out? I'm looking for a hand out? I probably make more money than you.

I'm voting for him because of race? Where did I say this? You're making an assumption. I thought you were more intelligent than this. ASSUMING someone Black is voting for someone because of race is racist. I actually supported Clinton. After following the campaign I do not support her platform. Also, she depends way to much on her husband. She's running for office, not him. Her being White or Obama being Black is irrelevant. You on the other hand think Black people are a separate species from you. And have the nerve to try and point out racism where there is none.

HAHA, well said.

[alphaman]

This has to be one of the dumbest comments I've seen you post.

Government hand out? I'm looking for a hand out? I probably make more money than you.

I'm voting for him because of race? Where did I say this? You're making an assumption. I thought you were more intelligent than this. ASSUMING someone Black is voting for someone because of race is racist. I actually supported Clinton. After following the campaign I do not support her platform. Also, she depends way to much on her husband. She's running for office, not him. Her being White or Obama being Black is irrelevant. You on the other hand think Black people are a separate species from you. And have the nerve to try and point out racism where there is none.

Would you mind sharing why you think Obama would make the best President? No disrespect, just wanna hear what one of his supporters thinks he has to offer.

[QuickSilver]

stop making a fool of yourself mate <666>

[Logan13]

stop making a fool of yourself mate <666>

you keep to posting dumb foreign videos, leave the political commentary to the adults.

[QuickSilver]

you keep to posting dumb foreign videos, leave the political commentary to the adults.

[bigt10]

I dont know we need his policies now before this country is long done into the tubes of debt and in total control of the federal reserve.

hes the only one that sees the big problem.

[QuickSilver]

[LawMan018]

Haha, my buddy actually met that creep at a club in LA

[QuickSilver]

Haha, my buddy actually met that creep at a club in LA

its he/she

[convalescence69]

I see what Logan is saying, but as mentioned in another thread, he does have a lot of support from Dem's that have lost faith in their party too, and a lot of those were unable to change their party affiliation to vote for Ron Paul in the primary.
Some dems I've spoken to like him a lot, but they wouldn't change their party over to vote for him because they hate the Neo-cons so bad that they felt the equivalent of contracting cooties by registering republican, which is a dumb reason.
Anyways, if he did 3rd party, I wouldn't necessarily think he would hand it to Hillary, or Barack (I have no idea which one is gonna make it this time) since he'd pull in lots of Dem's too (Damn I'd love to see Hillary have to debate Ron Paul, LOL!).

[3bd]

I see what Logan is saying, but as mentioned in another thread, he does have a lot of support from Dem's that have lost faith in their party too, and a lot of those were unable to change their party affiliation to vote for Ron Paul in the primary.
Some dems I've spoken to like him a lot, but they wouldn't change their party over to vote for him because they hate the Neo-cons so bad that they felt the equivalent of contracting cooties by registering republican, which is a dumb reason.
Anyways, if he did 3rd party, I wouldn't necessarily think he would hand it to Hillary, or Barack (I have no idea which one is gonna make it this time) since he'd pull in lots of Dem's too (Damn I'd love to see Hillary have to debate Ron Paul, LOL!).

Logan nailed it. That is exactly what is going to happen. I was a die-hard supporter of Ross Perot and totally into the "movement" like the supporters of Paul are today. Then we all got burnt. The similarities are so erie I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they are both part of the Clinton campaign stratedgy.

The Republicans don't have much of a chance at all this time around. Hillary will squeak by and win the primaries and obtain the Democratic nomination. Obama will become her running mate. Ron Paul will further weaken all other positions and... viola... President Billary Part II!!!!!!!

So remember... when you vote for Ron Paul you're really voting for Hillary.

(I think I'll save this thread so I can show all the "movement" people the post as a reminder after all is said and done this November.)

[Logan13]

Logan nailed it. That is exactly what is going to happen. I was a die-hard supporter of Ross Perot and totally into the "movement" like the supporters of Paul are today. Then we all got burnt. The similarities are so erie I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they are both part of the Clinton campaign stratedgy.

The Republicans don't have much of a chance at all this time around. Hillary will squeak by and win the primaries and obtain the Democratic nomination. Obama will become her running mate. Ron Paul will further weaken all other positions and... viola... President Billary Part II!!!!!!!

So remember... when you vote for Ron Paul you're really voting for Hillary.

(I think I'll save this thread so I can show all the "movement" people the post as a reminder after all is said and done this November.)

exactly!

[Atomini]

America has been transformed into a democracy.

In a democracy, the majority rules.

In America smart people are the minority. You figure it out.

[joint]

Vote for Bush or Die

[qualityclrk1]

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[convalescence69]

Just got back from the voting booth, cast my vote for.........Huckabee!













LOL! F^ck that! I voted for Ron Paul!!!

[soccer#3]

Just got back from the voting booth, cast my vote for.........Huckabee!













LOL! F^ck that! I voted for Ron Paul!!!

good stuff. now go to ronpaul2008.com and donate everything u have.. jk.

[Panzerfaust]

How anyone can vote for candidates that never speak of the serious issues affecting this country is beyond me???

I will vote for Ron Paul or none of them, the rest are scumbags that probably cannot even tell you anything about the Constitution let alone defend it.

[Logan13]

How anyone can vote for candidates that never speak of the serious issues affecting this country is beyond me???

I will vote for Ron Paul or none of them, the rest are scumbags that probably cannot even tell you anything about the Constitution let alone defend it.

That is a good point. It amazes me how the masses wet themselves over empty emotional speech.

[RuhlFreak55]

How anyone can vote for candidates that never speak of the serious issues affecting this country is beyond me???

I will vote for Ron Paul or none of them, the rest are scumbags that probably cannot even tell you anything about the Constitution let alone defend it.

AMEN......no way in hell will i vote for anyone but Ron Paul.....Romney and McCain are democrats anyway so if we don't get Paul we get a democrat regardless so then who gives a shit anyway.....even if he doesn't get nominated i'm gonna go and write his name in on principle though

[RA]

Ron Paul has a better chance of being elected mayor of hell than being president.

The one I liked dropped so I guess Im going with Romney.

[Panzerfaust]

Ron Paul has a better chance of being elected mayor of hell than being president.

The one I liked dropped so I guess Im going with Romney.

Yeah, I mean why vote for someone who will protect and return your civil liberties? That's crazy...

[RA]

He does have a lock on domestic issues, Im not arguing that one. Im more of a libertarian leaning Rep...so I like a ton of his views.

Yeah, I mean why vote for someone who will protect and return your civil liberties? That's crazy...

[Panzerfaust]

He does have a lock on domestic issues, Im not arguing that one. Im more of a libertarian leaning Rep...so I like a ton of his views.

We need to stop being good Republicans, Democrats or a Libertarians and start being good Americans!

Those political parties are just a distraction from the real issues concerning this country.

When people ask me "What are you?" I say " An American"..then they look at you like "Huh?"..just goes to show how deep the brainswashing BS is ingrained in everyone.

[RA]

Im not a sheep bro. I disagree with pauls foreign policy and to me thats more important right now.

We need to stop being good Republicans, Democrats or a Libertarians and start being good Americans!

Those political parties are just a distraction from the real issues concerning this country.

When people ask me "What are you?" I say " An American"..then they look at you like "Huh?"..just goes to show how deep the brainswashing BS is ingrained in everyone.

[bigt10]

Yeah, I mean why vote for someone who will protect and return your civil liberties? That's crazy...

Coudlnt have said it better myself.

Basically everyone else besides ron paul will make shit worse they dont understand the big problems.

Republic/democrat w/e u wanna call it doesnt mean shit.

Everyone else wants to spend more, more tax, more inflation, print more dollars, more war.

Everyone else still seems to think we can police the entire world and try to run a welfare /socialist state.

Paul is the only one who wants fix our corrupt money system, stop wasting money trying to police the world having bases in every country. Then once we have an honest money system and he gets rid of the IRS. then we have some real money to do other things with thats when people can talk about the small issues like healthcare and education.

[Carlos_E]

Coudlnt have said it better myself.

Basically everyone else besides ron paul will make shit worse they dont understand the big problems.

Republic/democrat w/e u wanna call it doesnt mean shit.

Everyone else wants to spend more, more tax, more inflation, print more dollars, more war.

Everyone else still seems to think we can police the entire world and try to run a welfare /socialist state.

Paul is the only one who wants fix our corrupt money system, stop wasting money trying to police the world having bases in every country. Then once we have an honest money system and he gets rid of the IRS. then we have some real money to do other things with thats when people can talk about the small issues like healthcare and education.

[Panzerfaust]

Coudlnt have said it better myself.

Basically everyone else besides ron paul will make shit worse they dont understand the big problems.
Republic/democrat w/e u wanna call it doesnt mean shit.

Everyone else wants to spend more, more tax, more inflation, print more dollars, more war.

Everyone else still seems to think we can police the entire world and try to run a welfare /socialist state.

Paul is the only one who wants fix our corrupt money system, stop wasting money trying to police the world having bases in every country. Then once we have an honest money system and he gets rid of the IRS. then we have some real money to do other things with thats when people can talk about the small issues like healthcare and education.

This is where you are wrong, unfortunately they DO know about the problems that are rotting us to the core. They simply do not give a flying **** about anyone but themselves. They have accepted the New World Order and the plan of the Elite.

I am telling you now, wait and see...they will start pushing the Amero soon as an excuse because of the decline of the dollar.

It is all set in stone, they only need to slowly inject it into the minds of the populace via the #1 brainwashing tool of the 21st century - TV/Media.

[bigt10]

This is where you are wrong, unfortunately they DO know about the problems that are rotting us to the core. They simply do not give a flying **** about anyone but themselves. They have accepted the New World Order and the plan of the Elite.

I am telling you now, wait and see...they will start pushing the Amero soon as an excuse because of the decline of the dollar.

It is all set in stone, they only need to slowly inject it into the minds of the populace via the #1 brainwashing tool of the 21st century - TV/Media.

Ya i know what your talking about.

Your probally right to they will push this amero cause of a bad american dollar.

then the next thing will be their pushing rfid chips for "security"

So muriloninja i agree that the other probally do know and they dont care. That being said paul clearly knows and he seems to be the only one with the solutions to our biggest issues as i said starting from the head of the beast and then killing the rest of the problems.