Cyle Help- AI's effecting gains???feeling Sh!t

[sms]

Here is the issue , I have read alot of posts oon AIs and them effecting gains due to very low estrogen, problem i'm having is I am very sensitive to this and have had one gny lump removed on left side and have a small one now about 8mm in diamaeter on the right side,

I have previously done 10 week cycle:

25mg sust 250 per wk
30mg Dianabol per day for 4 weeks

Letro at 0.5 everyday as my gyno flarred up in left side wher must still be some tissue that wasn't removed but since ceasing the dbol went back to normal i didnt go off cycle but went onto the cycle below and have been ON for 4.5 weeks as shown :

450mg test prop a week
200mg deca a week

letro at 0.25 every day

but have since had to up the dose as have noticed my right nipp is more puffy than usual, I have had trouble getting the right dosage that provide the right balance, I know i havent been getting gains that probably should, but am constantly worried about gyno, I have only gained about 5kgs I have trianing for 8 yrs and I am 28yrs old , i am genetically very lean so ahve trouble gaining mass, but have kept my body fat at around 12-15% I have recently increased the Letro due to my puffy right nipple and have started the Gyno refersal protocol my nipples arent overly sensative but the lump is slightly bigger and nipple is a little more puffy than normal when not errect, I have 6weeks left of my cycle and want to get some good gains, But am cocnerned about gyno!!! and have founf myself feeling very flat and not interested in training / mildly depressed,

Any Advice guys? Should i have put on more weight with the cyles run? how can improve this?

[rampage12]

take some adex in stead of letro,letro in my opinion is over kill,do adex at .5 to .25 mg ed

[BIGDOGIRISH]

Eat more!! Ai dont effect your gains that much if at all.
Not my opinion but the opinion of people who should know and not just something thats repeated cause it was read somewhere on a forum once upon a time.

[Merc..]

Eat more!! Ai dont effect your gains that much if at all.
Not my opinion but the opinion of people who should know and not just something thats repeated cause it was read somewhere on a forum once upon a time.

Really..... Well years of people posting on message boards will prove that people's gains are reduced when lowing estrogen( when using a AI) .. Not just on paper , but in real life usage.. It was not just something someone said on a message board once upon a time ... Its is something that many people have reported ..[ again from expereince , not just something they read] ...

Estrogen play's a very important role in the muscle building process ...



Merc.

[GreekDiesel]

Here is the issue , I have read alot of posts oon AIs and them effecting gains due to very low estrogen, problem i'm having is I am very sensitive to this and have had one gny lump removed on left side and have a small one now about 8mm in diamaeter on the right side,

I have previously done 10 week cycle:

25mg sust 250 per wk
30mg Dianabol per day for 4 weeks

Letro at 0.5 everyday as my gyno flarred up in left side wher must still be some tissue that wasn't removed but since ceasing the dbol went back to normal i didnt go off cycle but went onto the cycle below and have been ON for 4.5 weeks as shown :

450mg test prop a week
200mg deca a week

letro at 0.25 every day

but have since had to up the dose as have noticed my right nipp is more puffy than usual, I have had trouble getting the right dosage that provide the right balance, I know i havent been getting gains that probably should, but am constantly worried about gyno, I have only gained about 5kgs I have trianing for 8 yrs and I am 28yrs old , i am genetically very lean so ahve trouble gaining mass, but have kept my body fat at around 12-15% I have recently increased the Letro due to my puffy right nipple and have started the Gyno refersal protocol my nipples arent overly sensative but the lump is slightly bigger and nipple is a little more puffy than normal when not errect, I have 6weeks left of my cycle and want to get some good gains, But am cocnerned about gyno!!! and have founf myself feeling very flat and not interested in training / mildly depressed,

Any Advice guys? Should i have put on more weight with the cyles run? how can improve this?

I don’t think it is was a very good idea to go right into the prop/deca cycle immediately after the d-bol. The deca should have been started at the beginning due to it's extremely long half-life. Keep this in mind for any future cycles. In regards to AIs, they effect everyone differently. There are many people that avoid using letro due to the loss of sex drive as well of extremely low estrogen levels. Like merc said, a certain amount of estrogen is needed in the body for proper muscle gains. Your situation is kind of a catch 22……...…you don’t want gyno but you get bad sides from the letro. I personally use letro and don’t get the sides that most people encounter. I find that I need it since I am very prone to gyno. I am assuming that your diet is on point. For my cycle, I have been eating about 650-700 carbs/ed (mostly complex). My glycogen levels are through the roof right now so I don’t get tired much. If you are indeed eating correctly, I wouldn't sacrifice any gains using letro so try using .5mg/ed of a-dex. See if the a-dex keeps your gyno sides to a minimum. Most gyno incurred from a cycle will go away during pct. If you find that you still have gyno well after your pct you can give letro a try for gyno reversal. It is the only anti-e that has been used successfully in reversing gyno.

[CheddaNips]

AI's were affecting my gains and then I listened to Merc and saw alot more progress. I had everything on hand just incase, but I am the real world Exp that merc was talking bout. No AI worked so much better for me.