ATTN: Americans

[Panzerfaust]

Must see

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...34866850945507

[Oki-Des]

Interesting.
But, it is also sad that many outsiders assume all Americans are mindless drones. I personally have created a medical technology that helps people in more than 100 nations. I started this with the help of my friends and now have FDA approval, the CE mark for legal distribution throughout Europe. We now follow the ministry of Health Labor and Welfare in Japan allowing further sales in Asia. We recently moved into Central and South America.
Although appalled by many things in our government, I am also pleased with my ability to use my intelligence and distribute my advancements around the globe. I am sure that living in America has offered me the help needed to facilitate such a task. I am not trying to defend what is wrong with America, but rather remind everyone that there is much to offer if you open your eyes to the opportunities as well. There are morons out there who do not know Europe from Australia. But no one should worry about these people anyways. If we are smart enough to know there is a problem, then we should be the ones to fix it. I know that we can blame others for what is wrong with the world, but when you dedicate yourself to making a change in something for the better, you will spend less time worried about those that do not share your vision.
America may be in trouble, but it has offered me the tools to do something that I feel is wonderful and for that I am grateful.
I am not blind to the problems in the US, but I spend more time appreciating what it has to offer.

[Panzerfaust]

Interesting.
But, it is also sad that many outsiders assume all Americans are mindless drones. I personally have created a medical technology that helps people in more than 100 nations. I started this with the help of my friends and now have FDA approval, the CE mark for legal distribution throughout Europe. We now follow the ministry of Health Labor and Welfare in Japan allowing further sales in Asia. We recently moved into Central and South America.
Although appalled by many things in our government, I am also pleased with my ability to use my intelligence and distribute my advancements around the globe. I am sure that living in America has offered me the help needed to facilitate such a task. I am not trying to defend what is wrong with America, but rather remind everyone that there is much to offer if you open your eyes to the opportunities as well. There are morons out there who do not know Europe from Australia. But no one should worry about these people anyways. If we are smart enough to know there is a problem, then we should be the ones to fix it. I know that we can blame others for what is wrong with the world, but when you dedicate yourself to making a change in something for the better, you will spend less time worried about those that do not share your vision.
America may be in trouble, but it has offered me the tools to do something that I feel is wonderful and for that I am grateful.
I am not blind to the problems in the US, but I spend more time appreciating what it has to offer.

Wow, I think this went way over your head. You didn't even watch the video.

[Diary of a Mad-man]

Wow, I think this went way over your head. You didn't even watch the video.

Well Im afraid to comment b/c ive never heard you say anything to anyone that wasnt shitty. So, wow, great, thanks.

[Panzerfaust]

Well Im afraid to comment b/c ive never heard you say anything to anyone that wasnt shitty. So, wow, great, thanks.

Probably afraid to do some research let alone watch this clip.

[DSM4Life]

Well Im afraid to comment b/c ive never heard you say anything to anyone that wasnt shitty. So, wow, great, thanks.

With that attitude your not going to be around her much longer. Read the rules.

[Oki-Des]

Sorry, after about five minutes "wake up" made me want to "fall asleep."
I will watch it all the way through before I post again to see what is is that I missed.
Sorry.

[thegodfather]

This video is significant because multiple small offense committed by the government over a small period of time go unnoticed by people. When these multiple offenses are compiled into a video that the average person can see in one shot, then they may realise the real problems we are facing.

[Panzerfaust]

U.S. SPENDING ON IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN BY MONTH, WEEK, DAY, HOUR, MINUTE, & SECOND

(based on adjusted DOD FY 2007 obligations)





IRAQ + AFGHANISTAN

Per Month - $12.3 billion

Per Week - $2.9 billion

Per Day - $410 million

Per Hour - $17 million

Per Minute - $284,722

Per Second - $4,745



IRAQ

Per Month - $10.3 billion

Per Week - $2.4 billion

Per Day - $343 million

Per Hour - $14 million

Per Minute - $238,425

Per Second - $3,973



AFGHANISTAN

Per Month- $2 billion

Per Week - $469 million

Per Day - $67 million

Per Hour - $2.8 million

Per Minute - $46,296

Per Second - $771


As you can see, there is no reason to spend this money here at home and on Americans. /sarcasm

[nojoke]

U.S. SPENDING ON IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN BY MONTH, WEEK, DAY, HOUR, MINUTE, & SECOND

(based on adjusted DOD FY 2007 obligations)





IRAQ + AFGHANISTAN

Per Month - $12.3 billion

Per Week - $2.9 billion

Per Day - $410 million

Per Hour - $17 million

Per Minute - $284,722

Per Second - $4,745



IRAQ

Per Month - $10.3 billion

Per Week - $2.4 billion

Per Day - $343 million

Per Hour - $14 million

Per Minute - $238,425

Per Second - $3,973



AFGHANISTAN

Per Month- $2 billion

Per Week - $469 million

Per Day - $67 million

Per Hour - $2.8 million

Per Minute - $46,296

Per Second - $771


As you can see, there is no reason to spend this money here at home and on Americans. /sarcasm

Thought provoking thread!...What's your view on who exactly is behind this?...Is it just the U.S. gov.?...Is it the Russian gov. with the USA?...Could it be all the govs. on this planet together?...Or is just one MAIN source outside of gov.?...Peace!



NJ

[Gears]

Glad this thread was brought up, some people are so naive to what exactly is happening in our country.

[Johnny_Rotten]

You're a total Oscar the Grouch!

Whinge whinge f#cken whinge. Go change your tampon!

[FallenWyvern]

U.S. SPENDING ON IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN BY MONTH, WEEK, DAY, HOUR, MINUTE, & SECOND

(based on adjusted DOD FY 2007 obligations)





IRAQ + AFGHANISTAN

Per Month - $12.3 billion

Per Week - $2.9 billion

Per Day - $410 million

Per Hour - $17 million

Per Minute - $284,722

Per Second - $4,745



IRAQ

Per Month - $10.3 billion

Per Week - $2.4 billion

Per Day - $343 million

Per Hour - $14 million

Per Minute - $238,425

Per Second - $3,973



AFGHANISTAN

Per Month- $2 billion

Per Week - $469 million

Per Day - $67 million

Per Hour - $2.8 million

Per Minute - $46,296

Per Second - $771


As you can see, there is no reason to spend this money here at home and on Americans. /sarcasm

Pretty sums up the only reason I would be forced to vote non-republican this time around.

[Overhaulz]

I love watching movies like this. Zeitgeist was the real eye-opener to a lot about the American government. I didn't get too far in to the video yet, but it's right up my alley. I love when truths are spread about the terrible things that America has done, and people either ignore them, or try to say the things never happened. The fact is that these things have happened and more Americans need to know about them.

[Overhaulz]

Muriloninja since I think you're in to the same videos that I am about America, have you see this:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...arch&plindex=2

Scary, scary details in there about how great America is.

[Gators]

Muriloninja since I think you're in to the same videos that I am about America, have you see this:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...arch&plindex=2

Scary, scary details in there about how great America is.

Do black helicopters follow you around? If it's so bad here, you can always leave, i hear Iran is a great place.

Yes, we've done some wrong, but BY FAR the good we've done and do in the world outweighs the mistakes we've made. I'm proud to be an American, feel free to kiss my ass if you're not.

[Panzerfaust]

At least our new currency is going to be pretty.

[SnaX]

At least our new currency is going to be pretty.

I was told that the currency was being depreciated for the reason that the US wants to able to offer goods to other countries. However we are unable because our dollar is worth more than they can afford, so we are bringing it down to be able to trade, etc.

I am not sure if that is a bunch of bullshit or what... sounds interesting, and needs to be looked into.

Edit: Oh you put up a picture, it didn't load for me last time. I thought you were being sarcastic about our inflation

Are those really going to be used? They look nice

[pumpd4lif]

I was told that the currency was being depreciated for the reason that the US wants to able to offer goods to other countries. However we are unable because our dollar is worth more than they can afford, so we are bringing it down to be able to trade, etc.

I am not sure if that is a bunch of bullshit or what... sounds interesting, and needs to be looked into.

Edit: Oh you put up a picture, it didn't load for me last time. I thought you were being sarcastic about our inflation

Are those really going to be used? They look nice

the dollar is being crushed so it will be easier for the united states to introduce the NEW NORTH AMERICAN UNION currency.the amero..for those of you that dont believe...Well you didnt believe in the north American union and now look.It is sad all the so called propaganda seems to be turning into fact hmm!

[feanixco]

Thats funny.....you used the poster and dvd cover from my church. HA-HA

[Edgar]

All war and violence sucks, it's about killing for $, but their is no country in the world that through out their political history was not a fu****g scumbag at some point and time. It's a lame argument that Americans should feel ashamed, here is the way I see it.

Example: Your a piece of sh!t because you killed 10 people, and I am not, because I only killed one.

Don’t be so naive scumbags are born everywhere!!!

All governments from every country in the world have done fu@$%d up Sh!# !!!

[Overhaulz]

^^ Well said, sir. I can agree with that.

[Overhaulz]

On a side note, does anyone know the name of that bill that Bush signed in May of 2007 that stated if there was a national emergency that he could remain president indefinitely? I'm unable to find the name of that bill

[Schmidty]

Is anybody suprized at this??? You shouldnt be if you are becausse its been happening to us slowly for sum time now. The blanket has been pulled so far over most peoples eyes that nothing is going to get done till its to late. Big brother is here without a doubt. Were constantly watched, listened to, followed to make sure if u try to open your mouth they are their to silence you. The one guy is sooo right about the banking system controlling everything. I have pissed a lot of people off by saying this but as soon as i finish my time in the army im moving the fvck to another country because this one is so fvckd and for the most part everybodys a sheep... Keep your mind, eyes and ears open, if u dont everything will be taken from you.

[Panzerfaust]

Listen, I am proud to be an American! The bottom line is this, the policies and war mongoring that this country implement on a daily basis is Un-American.

This is no longer "America"....America had a Constitution in which laid the ground work and guidelines for its peoples civil liberties and freedoms. "America" is the greatest nation on the face of the planet and the potential it had was endless.

We were unfortunately sold out and this nation we have today should no longer call itself "America" as it no longer follows the will of the people, nor does it protect and preserve its peoples civil liberties. It only seeks to slowly remove said rights and freedoms from its populace in order to gain total control.

People that are too afraid to wakeup and say "Whoa, let me have a look around and see what all this fuss is about" are the ones that spew the "If you don't like America, leave it" or the infamous "Leave, I hear Iran is a nice place to live". These people do not question authority, they accept it and follow like sheep.

It is in our great Declaration of Independence that states

"Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just Powers from the consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government".

How can you assume to have rights and civil liberties when you don't even know what they are, you just hear everyone say your whole life "I'm an American, I have rights". Wake the **** up so you can see just what has been taken from you.

[Schmidty]

Wow!!! Very well said.

Listen, I am proud to be an American! The bottom line is this, the policies and war mongoring that this country implement on a daily basis is Un-American.

This is no longer "America"....America had a Constitution in which laid the ground work and guidelines for its peoples civil liberties and freedoms. "America" is the greatest nation on the face of the planet and the potential it had was endless.

We were unfortunately sold out and this nation we have today should no longer call itself "America" as it no longer follows the will of the people, nor does it protect and preserve its peoples civil liberties. It only seeks to slowly remove said rights and freedoms from its populace in order to gain total control.

People that are too afraid to wakeup and say "Whoa, let me have a look around and see what all this fuss is about" are the ones that spew the "If you don't like America, leave it" or the infamous "Leave, I hear Iran is a nice place to live". These people do not question authority, they accept it and follow like sheep.

It is in our great Declaration of Independence that states



How can you assume to have rights and civil liberties when you don't even know what they are, you just hear everyone say your whole life "I'm an American, I have rights". Wake the **** up so you can see just what has been taken from you.

[Lemonada8]

wow... i havent even watched the vids and i know what they are about... hey dont freakin worry about what we are doin in iraq and afganistan... it aint noone else's business... OK?! and you say, cause we spent this much money in the iraq and afganistan stuff... well what about other spending? ok? we have as much damn money as we need... and dont hvae troops here to protect us here basically is the argument? hey we are using not even half of the current troops which would kick anybodys ass in the world... and we are plenty fine against any threat....

[smokethedays]

America is in the hands of bunch of WEALTHY SUPER POWERED individuals, matter of fact the whole world is.
America and the founding fathers did lay a fertile gorund for a great nation to come and flourish the entire world, but the draw back to that capitalist foundation is what we have today. Less that 1% with endless finances and powers rule everything, everywhere.

[thegodfather]

You guys are completely overlooking the fact that only Congress can declare war, and that they can only do so if the national security is being directly threatened.

"Percieved" threats from a nation who may or may not have been "attempting" to produce WMDs is not even close to fulfilling those standards. This entire idea of pre-emptive warfare needs to be striked!!! There is no provision for pre-emptive strikes in the Constitution. We only goto war when we are threatened, NOT WHEN WE THINK WE "MIGHT" BE THREATENED IN 5 YEARS!

[Panzerfaust]

I like how so many miss my signature quotes, this one applies to this thread now

"Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly, I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked about such a thing."

- Dwight D. Eisenhower

As far as America not knowing the Japanese were coming, hahaha You definately have done no studying on the subject. We knew they were coming and as a matter of fact, Japan even sent a letter to Washington stating they were coming as the Japanese believed it was dishonorable to attack without notice.

It was just another event used to gain public support to plunge the nation into profitable War.

[pumpd4lif]

I like how so many miss my signature quotes, this one applies to this thread now




As far as America not knowing the Japanese were coming, hahaha You definately have done no studying on the subject. We knew they were coming and as a matter of fact, Japan even sent a letter to Washington stating they were coming as the Japanese believed it was dishonorable to attack without notice.

It was just another event used to gain public support to plunge the nation into profitable War.

lmfao...new they were coming,hahah this is an understatement.

[Panzerfaust]

Comparing modern day American to the revolution, is a bit of a stretch.

Not at all, sure instead of muskets we have automatic rifles and alot more technology but the principal idea remains the same.

A revolution is generally started by a few men, simply looking back on History reveals this. You do know that our founding fathers were commiting High Treason and if they would have lost, they would have been hung and had their guts ripped out in public?

Luckily for you and I, our people prevailed because they did what people are too scared to do now, and that is stand together united and doing what is neccesary to force real change.

Can you imagine how many people were scared to death to join the revolution, I mean disobey the King? The King's army was one of the best if not the best Army of its time and to fight it would have been terrifying.

Just as Thomas Jefferson said in 1787 in a letter to William S. Smith

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

We can make real change by simply standing together as a nation and stop all this goddamn Black vs White, Democrat vs Republican etc... Until we stop this, they are winning and at an alarming rate.

[thegodfather]

Not at all, sure instead of muskets we have automatic rifles and alot more technology but the principal idea remains the same.

A revolution is generally started by a few men, simply looking back on History reveals this. You do know that our founding fathers were commiting High Treason and if they would have lost, they would have been hung and had their guts ripped out in public?

Luckily for you and I, our people prevailed because they did what people are too scared to do now, and that is stand together united and doing what is neccesary to force real change.

Can you imagine how many people were scared to death to join the revolution, I mean disobey the King? The King's army was one of the best if not the best Army of its time and to fight it would have been terrifying.

Just as Thomas Jefferson said in 1787 in a letter to William S. Smith



We can make real change by simply standing together as a nation and stop all this goddamn Black vs White, Democrat vs Republican etc... Until we stop this, they are winning and at an alarming rate.

Well said my friend... The revolutionary war and present day are a pefect comparison. The people did not leave Britain to goto another country, they want to BRITISH OWNED COLONIES, and therefore were subject to the same laws as a British citizen. They were for all intents and purposes, subjects of the King. What the founding fathers stood up against was OPPRESSION! You should take the time to actually read the Declaration of Independence and look at the long list of grievances they cited against the King.

"He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers."


just to list a few...

So anytime a government becomes oppressive, and since governments are instituted by the people in order to SERVE the people, it is our duty to speak and behave in the manor we are now.

[Lemonada8]

Hitler was a genius when it came to terratory siezure... so i cant agree with DDE's quote... cause yeah he was a freak when it came to the jews and such.... but military effectivness was amazing...

[Panzerfaust]

Hitler was a genius when it came to terratory siezure... so i cant agree with DDE's quote... cause yeah he was a freak when it came to the jews and such.... but military effectivness was amazing...

Don't make me school you on German history and WWII. I love it and in particular, German history but lewts keep this focused on American history and the importance of realising just how far this country has strayed off course.

[Voice of Reason]

Alright enough, is ENOUGH is ENOUGH!!!

So who do we have to kill specifically to shake things up and take this country back?

[Atomini]

Alright enough, is ENOUGH is ENOUGH!!!

So who do we have to kill specifically to shake things up and take this country back?

You need to stage another armed revolution if you want to change things.

I'll do it if everyone else is willing.

[rockinred]

You need to stage another armed revolution if you want to change things.

I'll do it if everyone else is willing.

dude, wtf? you live in Canada? Oh, I forgot, we own Canada too... well sorta, kinda... if Canada was ever invaded we would rescue you.

[Gators]

now i do feel that we have gotten off course, no doubt, and our Federal Gov't is bloated and tooooo controlling (Southerner, we like states rights, like our founding fathers did), and something will need to change, soon, but i don't feel we're 'bad', just in a slump, so to speak. We still have the greatest liberties of any other country, think it's bad here, head to Socialist Europe, or maybe even Cuba, Venezuela, China, North Korea, Russia, Pakistan, India, Iran, Saudia Arabia, so on and so forth.

[CSAR]

Master Chief Chalker told us that opinions are like assholes - everyone's got one and they all stink.

Yeah, the US has dropped the ball as of late, but go live in other countries or serve in the military and see what life is really like without any rights. American citizens have it WAY better than anywhere else. I'm not saying our government hasn't made mistakes, but having lived around the world and experienced life without any rights has made me appreciate how great the US truly is.

CSAR out. Carry on.