Sustanon

**woltersb** · 10-01-2008, 01:18 PM

How long should I run sustanon for my first cycle. I have been lifting for 7 years, I'm 23 years old. I'm 6' and weigh about 205 with 7% body fat.

**god-send** · 10-01-2008, 01:22 PM

12 weeks @ 250mgs monday and same thursday.

make sure you have a good pct

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by god-send

12 weeks @ 250mgs monday and same thursday.

make sure you have a good pct

LAME!

Pin Sus ED...

**god-send** · 10-01-2008, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

LAME!

Pin Sus ED...

pin sust ed?

dont be silly man.

125mgs ed =875mgs ew? (15mgs prop ed)wont do shit.

the very small amount of prop that is in sust hardly has any effect on bloods.

mens natty test is all over the place natty (higher in morn and lower at night)

no side effects there.

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by god-send

pin sust ed?

dont be silly man.

125mgs ed =875mgs ew? (15mgs prop ed)wont do shit.

the very small amount of prop that is in sust hardly has any effect on bloods.

mens natty test is all over the place natty (higher in morn and lower at night)

no side effects there.

Yes, pin 125mg ED... Thats what i said...

**god-send** · 10-01-2008, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

Yes, pin 125mg ED... Thats what i said...

thats 875mgs of test per week for first cycle

all for 210mgs test prop per week

great advise there bud

**Roshambo** · 10-01-2008, 01:31 PM

sustanon should be inj. ED or EOD. 12 to 16 weeks and should be stacked with something else. Some of the HOF can post what It can be stacked with. Like deca or even dbol, Personally I would prefer the test cyp/deca stack. The problem with sustanon is that it is made up of four different esters and are released at different times. Sustanon is great for HRT but due to the frequency of inj. It is not so desirable to first timers or even experienced users.

**woltersb** · 10-01-2008, 01:23 PM

Thanks a lot man.

**redz** · 10-01-2008, 01:25 PM

I would sugest runing it eod for optimal blood stability and the least side effects. Sustanon contains Terosteron Propanate which requries eod injections at the minimum thus sustanon should be injected at teh same frequency. It can be run twice per week with good results but you are increasing your chances of side effects. 12 weeks is good though, what do you have planed for pct?

**redz** · 10-01-2008, 01:26 PM

LAME!

Pin Sus ED...

This is right^^^^

ed=best
eod=very good
e3d=ok not great
every 3.5 days= unstable
ew=terrible blood levels

**woltersb** · 10-01-2008, 01:26 PM

Nolvadex for pct, any other suggestions?

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 01:28 PM

Yeah research...

**woltersb** · 10-01-2008, 01:29 PM

I'm definitely planning on more research.

**god-send** · 10-01-2008, 01:32 PM

i dont understand why pinning sust ed is the best when most of the sust is med-long esters ,the 30mgs of prop that is in per 250mgs ,it is pointless injecting sust ed just to get the 30mgs ed of the prop.

if i was planing on pinning ed i would go with prop 75mgs ed .

sust ed -hehe

**woltersb** · 10-01-2008, 01:33 PM

Did you have good results with test cyp/deca stack pumarjr?

**god-send** · 10-01-2008, 01:34 PM

by the way i have run sust at

250mgs ed

125mgs ed

250mgs eod

125mgs ed

250mgs e3rd day

never ever have i seen i diff in sides or gains ,its hyped up bull that sust needs to be shoot ed-eod

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by god-send

by the way i have run sust at

250mgs ed

125mgs ed

250mgs eod

125mgs ed

250mgs e3rd day

never ever have i seen i diff in sides or gains ,its hyped up bull that sust needs to be shoot ed-eod

**god-send** · 10-01-2008, 01:38 PM

why is it bs that i have ran 250mgs ed ?

strange man you are

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 01:41 PM

Drug: Testosterone Propionate
(Initial) Dose: 30mg
Half-life: 2 days
Dose Frequency: Every 3.5 days
Cycle Length: 84 days
Start Day: 1

Drug: Testosterone Phenylpropionate
(Initial) Dose: 60mg
Half-life: 3 days
Dose Frequency: Every 3.5 days
Cycle Length: 84 days
Start Day: 1

Drug: Testosterone Isocaproate
(Initial) Dose: 60mg
Half-life: 5 days
Dose Frequency: Every 3.5 days
Cycle Length: 84 days
Start Day: 1

Drug: Testosterone Decanoate
(Initial) Dose: 100mg
Half-life: 9.5 days
Dose Frequency: Every 3.5 days
Cycle Length: 84 days
Start Day: 1

Yes, truley not much more stable...

Drug: Testosterone Propionate
(Initial) Dose: 9mg
Half-life: 2 days
Dose Frequency: Every 1 days
Cycle Length: 84 days
Start Day: 1

Drug: Testosterone Phenylpropionate
(Initial) Dose: 18mg
Half-life: 3 days
Dose Frequency: Every 1 days
Cycle Length: 84 days
Start Day: 1

Drug: Testosterone Isocaproate
(Initial) Dose: 18mg
Half-life: 5 days
Dose Frequency: Every 1 days
Cycle Length: 84 days
Start Day: 1

Drug: Testosterone Decanoate
(Initial) Dose: 30mg
Half-life: 9.5 days
Dose Frequency: Every 1 days
Cycle Length: 84 days
Start Day: 1

**god-send** · 10-01-2008, 01:44 PM

dont give fcku about them bs charts ,am giveing advise from my own experence .

but i guess if he pins sust x2 per week he is going to get the worste sides possable from aas .

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by god-send

dont give fcku about them bs charts ,am giveing advise from my own experence .

but i guess if he pins sust x2 per week he is going to get the worste sides possable from aas .

Yeah!

F charts and scientific studies!

They dont know, i know what im talking about!

Totally bro! Who needs logic when we can all just pin 250mgs ED like you!?

**Big** · 10-01-2008, 01:55 PM

edited- my mistake, wrong n00b.

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 01:58 PM

edited- my bad.
group hug...

**god-send** · 10-01-2008, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=361272

show me were i said i injected ink

**god-send** · 10-01-2008, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Big

my mistake...

if you look back at the thread and who started that thread you will find it dident state that injected ink.

**LATS60** · 10-01-2008, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by god-send

dont give fcku about them bs charts ,am giveing advise from my own experence .

but i guess if he pins sust x2 per week he is going to get the worste sides possable from aas .

Agreed,110%, i'll say no more, i think most ppl know my views on sust.

**god-send** · 10-01-2008, 01:51 PM

**Reed** · 10-01-2008, 01:55 PM

Now now ladies. Put your tampons in and lets be civil.

And BTW ed or eod is better. Granted you will still get results with 2x a week BUT its better the way War suggested

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Reed500

Now now ladies. Put your tampons in and lets be civil.

And BTW ed or eod is better. Granted you will still get results with 2x a week BUT its better the way War suggested

Im sorry dude...

This guy was just driving me nuts!

**Dukkit** · 10-01-2008, 01:58 PM

ugh.

**Reed** · 10-01-2008, 02:02 PM

Its all good War. There seems to be a lot of fuss over Sust on the board. Just trying to keep from flaming anyone but I know what you mean, people can be hard headed.

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 02:03 PM

I didnt say you did... Big said you did...

**Big** · 10-01-2008, 02:04 PM

my mistake, I stand corrected...

**god-send** · 10-01-2008, 02:04 PM

well big is wrong.

**Big** · 10-01-2008, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by god-send

well big is wrong.

certainly not the first time. but in reference to the discussion at hand, I had less acne sides from sust shooting eod than twice a week. everyone is different, and with some it may not be an issue, but with me it was. I recommend long esters for first cycles just for less pinning.

**god-send** · 10-01-2008, 02:23 PM

agree on the long esters for first cycle.

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 02:46 PM

Thanks for the imput Lats...

yeah we know your views...

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