Questions on Winstrol and effects on muscles.

[ramfootball36]

I recieved a back injury while working about 2/3 years ago. I am now looking at coming back to football again and re strained the muscles. It is the lower right portion of my back. I've read that once these muscles are strained or damaged they sometimes may not recover and can cause problems forever. I hate to have them be the reason I am unable to be on the field again so I've been lookin at options for repairing those muscles. Basically I'm wondering if runnin a cycle of winstrol would help with this problem. I'm thinking of winstrol because I don't need to worry about gaining alot of mass. If theres any way it will help these muscles repair back to a point that I won't have to worry about straining them. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[redz]

Winstrol is a bad choice for this as it is known to be hard on joints. I dont believe there is any healing beniefits to running winny.

[ramfootball36]

Any ideas on what direction to go or is there anything I can take to help the healing?

[redz]

Surgery may be your best option. I dont think steroids are really the answer for this. Have you consulted a doctor?

[ramfootball36]

Right after I injured I went to some cheap med care place. They did ultra sound and stem but didn't really go through any in depth process. Its the lower right back strap right at the top of my butt. Since its not a vertebre or a disk I don't know if they can do anything for surgery. Just strained muscles. But damn....this happened about 3 years ago and still it gets irritated easily. It was doing good while I've been training, but I went and played in some flag football game and that did it. I just thought maybe winny would help repair those muscles faster.

[SampsonandDelilah]

I'd look into epidural steroids vs. anabolic steroids

[ramfootball36]

Sorry for being nieve....I've been trainging all my life just don't have much experience with roids. Whats the difference bewteen Epidural and Anabolic?

[SampsonandDelilah]

Sorry for being nieve....I've been trainging all my life just don't have much experience with roids. Whats the difference bewteen Epidural and Anabolic?

Epidural steroid injections are an option for the treatment of back pain and inflammation around the spinal nerves (have zero to do with strength or size)

Anabolic steroids are synthetic drugs similar to the male hormone, testosterone. They are taken as tablets, in powder form, or by intramuscular injection, to improve muscle growth, strength, and power (the kind that are discussed on this board)

do some research into lower back pain...epidurals, med-tronics and traction are a good place to start

[LATS60]

I can't wait for the answer to this one!!!

[ramfootball36]

I can't wait for the answer to this one!!!

You could've avoided the smartass comment and just answered the question. But then I guess everyone would've missed the sarcasm and you wouldn't look as cool. I get it.

[LATS60]

You could've avoided the smartass comment and just answered the question. But then I guess everyone would've missed the sarcasm and you wouldn't look as cool. I get it.

Oh dear, that was directed at samson and d it was a joke to answer epidural and steroid in the same sentence, sorry if i offended.

[SampsonandDelilah]

Hey Ram...Ive never seen Lats flame anyone...I think you mis-interpreted what he was saying.

I can relate bro...struggled on and off with lumbar pain...herniated a disk...it blows.

The best thing would be to do an MRI...that way they can isolate any structural abnormalities.

This will help figure out if it's the bony lumbar spine (vertebrae), discs between the vertebrae, ligaments around the spine and discs, spinal cord/nerves, muscles of the low back, internal organs of the pelvis or abdomen.

PT (physical therapy) will help...also things like prednisone, edpidurals or other anti-inflammatorys...that coupled with stretching, strengthening lower back muscles and abs. I've done everything from yoga, pilates to accupunture.

Anabolics aren't the fix, in fact you potentially risk hurting it further...possibly putting more strain on it while lifting heavy...core strength would help as well

But definitely look into an MRI, PT, massage, heat/stem, med-tronics, traction

This will get you back on the field! I've battled mine for 2 years (bad motorcycle accident) and am finally feeling normal, but still get the occasional twinge when lifting, esp. squats, dead lifts

good luck bro

[ramfootball36]

Hey Ram...Ive never seen Lats flame anyone...I think you mis-interpreted what he was saying.

I can relate bro...struggled on and off with lumbar pain...herniated a disk...it blows.

The best thing would be to do an MRI...that way they can isolate any structural abnormalities.

This will help figure out if it's the bony lumbar spine (vertebrae), discs between the vertebrae, ligaments around the spine and discs, spinal cord/nerves, muscles of the low back, internal organs of the pelvis or abdomen.

PT (physical therapy) will help...also things like prednisone, edpidurals or other anti-inflammatorys...that coupled with stretching, strengthening lower back muscles and abs. I've done everything from yoga, pilates to accupunture.

Anabolics aren't the fix, in fact you potentially risk hurting it further...possibly putting more strain on it while lifting heavy...core strength would help as well

But definitely look into an MRI, PT, massage, heat/stem, med-tronics, traction

This will get you back on the field! I've battled mine for 2 years (bad motorcycle accident) and am finally feeling normal, but still get the occasional twinge when lifting, esp. squats, dead lifts

good luck bro

Thanks for clarrifying. I think you're right with the MRI. I just need to know where the damage is. I've done alot of PT on it. The last time I played was 06 and I was on a strict regimen of ice/heat/massage....stem, You name it. And by the fourth game when the weather got a bit colder it was so tight I was having a hard time runnin. The one thing I didn't do as well as I probably should have was stretch. I've been stretching to the point where I wanna throw up and I sure hope it helps take care of the problem. So you back on a bike these days? A bunch of friends and their wives set up a run for me and my buddy. Our birthdays are this sunday, We're riding out to New Mexico and back. I hurt my back last week after this was all set up. And I have a rigid frame chopper......Not gonna be a good combination. lol

[ramfootball36]

Oh dear, that was directed at samson and d it was a joke to answer epidural and steroid in the same sentence, sorry if i offended.

Sorry for jumpin the gun there. Just in unfamiliar territory right now. lol....sorry again.

[DS21]

You might also want to try some physical therapy.

[longislandkid55]

i would say that u must try physical therepy...see where that takes you, the back is like the chassy of the human body and there really isnt a quick fix to it..and if u do think u found one then u better be careful cuz its prolly not a good idea...i would suggest very light weight back workouts with lots of slow reps. Another good idea would be stretching intensively as many times as u can..be careful into rushing into football and other activities b/c it can really mess things up in the long run

[Nicotine]

when i did winstrol, it dried out my joints in my hands and lower back pretty harsh.

i wouldn't suggest it at all.

[Phate]

RAMFOOTBALL, you wouldn't happen to live in texas would you?

[sonysucks]

Ram, any chance you are 36?
I am 42
Were you in decent shape before you hit the field for this one game?
I have pull hammies before running out onto the soccer field before I gently worked myself into the peculiar muscles stresses soccer puts on the legs. I have herniated my disc and injured and reinjured my back in beach v-bal. I am glad to say there is hope. I dont want to come off wrong here at all,just optimistic. For me it started with physio and learning that the back problems were as much or more due to poor core stomach muscles ,especially the lower abdominals. So it started there for me then I began to strengthen the back. I used a cycle of steroids to make some great gains in only 3 months..especially in my abs and back. I was looking for healing not sex appeal.(but I did get a slimmer build out of it.)I did this only after finding myself frustrated in 2004 when i was in good shape and re injured the back again. It starts with seeking out advice...first from your physio then from the forum . start with those abs.

Ps ,dont ride a rigid. I had to get my wife to drive me home and then return later and DRIVE the damn bike home...while I laid in bed...where I remained for 4 weeks...ever used a bedpan before??? Dont ride a rigid!

[ramfootball36]

Ram, any chance you are 36?
I am 42
Were you in decent shape before you hit the field for this one game?
I have pull hammies before running out onto the soccer field before I gently worked myself into the peculiar muscles stresses soccer puts on the legs. I have herniated my disc and injured and reinjured my back in beach v-bal. I am glad to say there is hope. I dont want to come off wrong here at all,just optimistic. For me it started with physio and learning that the back problems were as much or more due to poor core stomach muscles ,especially the lower abdominals. So it started there for me then I began to strengthen the back. I used a cycle of steroids to make some great gains in only 3 months..especially in my abs and back. I was looking for healing not sex appeal.(but I did get a slimmer build out of it.)I did this only after finding myself frustrated in 2004 when i was in good shape and re injured the back again. It starts with seeking out advice...first from your physio then from the forum . start with those abs.

Ps ,dont ride a rigid. I had to get my wife to drive me home and then return later and DRIVE the damn bike home...while I laid in bed...where I remained for 4 weeks...ever used a bedpan before??? Dont ride a rigid!

Actually I'm 25....goin on 26. Though I feel like I'm goin on 46 sometimes. 5 knee surgeries and countless other injuries. I know the whole reason I hurt it this time was because I worked out hard as hell during the day, ran agilities then thought I could pull of flag football at 9 o'clock at night. Its getting harder and harder to accept the fact that I'm not 18 anymore. lol I think a cycle would be a good idea to get everything back. Once I can get this all healed up. As far as the rigid.....I love my chop. Built it 2 years ago and everyone told me I'd regret it forever if I build a rigid. I wouldn't trade it for the world. I can put up to 400 miles on it in a day without killing myself. What you find with rigids is you have to ride them like a horse. You see a bump, you better be usin your legs to jockey yourself over it. But you're right, you catch a wrong bump and you liable to end up with a kidney sittin next to your stomach.

[ramfootball36]

RAMFOOTBALL, you wouldn't happen to live in texas would you?

There is a chance I live in Texas....why do you ask?

[Phate]

There is a chance I live in Texas....why do you ask?

because there is a college near me that's mascot is the rams, jw that's all

[rhino1]

you should consider HGH and IGF