testosterone undecanoate with pct

[john1181]

what doyou guys thnk of on test unde along with pct...there are studies that prove it doesnt suppress the hpta

[LATS60]

what doyou guys thnk of on test unde along with pct...there are studies that prove it doesnt suppress the hpta

PMSFL, you are funny.

[john1181]

PMSFL, you are funny.

lol, whats pmsfl??

[JiGGaMaN]

Show me the studies. The fundamentals of HPTA function are in direct conflict with your proposal.

[john1181]

ok..brb

[marcus300]

Of course if will suppress you, infact it shuts you down completely and is used for HRT.

[john1181]

http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retri...22534701650626
check it out

[john1181]

so we arent talking about using the test unde for gaining wich is 300mg/day..im talking more like 150-200mg dat will not effect the hpta

[LATS60]

so we arent talking about using the test unde for gaining wich is 300mg/day..im talking more like 150-200mg dat will not effect the hpta

So what are we talking about john????

[marcus300]

so we arent talking about using the test unde for gaining wich is 300mg/day..im talking more like 150-200mg dat will not effect the hpta

Yes, it will effect your hpta and shut your system down, its testosterone and is used for hrt with excellent results

[john1181]

http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retri...15028203011233

or what about that? commn guys wha do u think?

[john1181]

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/j...18389/abstract

theres another one!! lol

[marcus300]

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/j...18389/abstract

theres another one!! lol

I think you need to read what your posting, its being used for HRT

[HORSE~]

I think you need to read what your posting, its being used for HRT

Marcus bro you will turn blue in the face before you can get a point across to this guy....


I am starting to think that he is just a troll to be honest....

[marcus300]

Marcus bro you will turn blue in the face before you can get a point across to this guy....


I am starting to think that he is just a troll to be honest....

hahaha

[john1181]

I think you need to read what your posting, its being used for HRT

Testosterone undecanoate produced restoration of plasma testosterone levels in all patients but a measurable improvement in sexual attitudes and performance in only 61%. Visual analogue scores were effective discriminants of the therapeutic response but none of the conventional biochemical measures predicted or correlated with clinical outcome.

so what does that say? im lost

[LATS60]

Testosterone undecanoate produced restoration of plasma testosterone levels in all patients but a measurable improvement in sexual attitudes and performance in only 61%. Visual analogue scores were effective discriminants of the therapeutic response but none of the conventional biochemical measures predicted or correlated with clinical outcome.

so what does that say? im lost

Ive been reading a few of his post HORSE, yep he's a troll.
john, you are lost on your own planet, enjoy.

[john1181]

Ive been reading a few of his post HORSE, yep he's a troll.
john, you are lost on your own planet, enjoy.

by the way...my little planet includes all i ever wanted in my life and thank god my health shows normal from blood work so asking stupid questions or whatnot on topics of aas and pct or whatever have nothing to do with how intelligent someone is..after all 20yrs ago they thought they were doing things right...anyway..its all good.

[john1181]

like i said, 150-200mg/day along with pct preferably 4weeks out of the 8weeks or a heavy pct

[john1181]

"Treatment with tamoxifen citrate and testosterone undecanoate improved sperm variables"

how could something that raises sperm count shut u down?? i dont get it im a troll i guess

[LATS60]

"Treatment with tamoxifen citrate and testosterone undecanoate improved sperm variables"

how could something that raises sperm count shut u down?? i dont get it im a troll i guess

If this gets me banned so be it.
No john, you are a *******idiot.

[marcus300]

You can't recover your HPTA with Testosterone, Testosterone shuts it down. Please just do a straight forward PCT unless you want to go on HRT.

[john1181]

lol..ok guys! fine! im a ****ing idiot bcause i was wondering on something..im no professional on all this..i didnt make this thread to say that it should be used like this..i asked..and that because on some things i read on. lol damn why do you guys get all cranky!

[marcus300]

lol..ok guys! fine! im a ****ing idiot bcause i was wondering on something..im no professional on all this..i didnt make this thread to say that it should be used like this..i asked..and that because on some things i read on. lol damn why do you guys get all cranky!

Because we are all using Test Undec to recover our HPTA, Thats why we are all cranky

[HORSE~]

Because we are all using Test Undec to recover our HPTA, Thats why we are all cranky

LOL!!!!

[LATS60]

lol..ok guys! fine! im a ****ing idiot bcause i was wondering on something..im no professional on all this..i didnt make this thread to say that it should be used like this..i asked..and that because on some things i read on. lol damn why do you guys get all cranky!

Read it again mate, i'm no mechanic but i know if my car has ran out of fuel.
Even trolls aren't that naive, so maybe you aren't a troll, maybe your are just stupid, no disrespect, i know some very nice stupid ppl.

[john1181]

Read it again mate, i'm no mechanic but i know if my car has ran out of fuel.
Even trolls aren't that naive, so maybe you aren't a troll, maybe your are just stupid, no disrespect, i know some very nice stupid ppl.

xaxa and u seam like on f those nice stupid people...no disrespect...i read it again and if u were to get blood work done after a cycle with no pct then u 2 woiuld be hypogonadic(i'm just waiting for somone to bust on grammar and spelling here) so to me knowing th little things that i knowit seame like an increase in sperm count is related to an increase in gonadotropins etc etc..ok im a stupid troll damn who cares!!im not gonna stop posting syt like this cause i like to see what other more experianced scientificaly people have to say after all it was a theory..just like using proviron during pct some people do it..i have and with very good recovery

[LATS60]

xaxa and u seam like on f those nice stupid people...no disrespect...i read it again and if u were to get blood work done after a cycle with no pct then u 2 woiuld be hypogonadic(i'm just waiting for somone to bust on grammar and spelling here) so to me knowing th little things that i knowit seame like an increase in sperm count is related to an increase in gonadotropins etc etc..ok im a stupid troll damn who cares!!im not gonna stop posting syt like this cause i like to see what other more experianced scientificaly people have to say after all it was a theory..just like using proviron during pct some people do it..i have and with very good recovery

Great post john, thanks for the heads up, i might just use this protocol in my next PCT, i'll let you know how it goes.

[frank12391]

lol..ok guys! fine! im a ****ing idiot bcause i was wondering on something..im no professional on all this..i didnt make this thread to say that it should be used like this..i asked..and that because on some things i read on. lol damn why do you guys get all cranky!

Don't sob that you got no help!

You asked a question more than once and got the answers. If you're not happy with the answers you're getting then go somewhere else. Read up on homeostases and how the body aromatises test because of homeostases. If you put exogenous test in your body, your brain & pituitary system goes, Oh -- too much test, better convert it to estrogen to balance these hormones out. Then your stuck with the enemy. Forget the studies on test undec. Read up on the pituitary system first then your brain might. I said might start to paint a picture.

[marcus300]

Chill Bill, we are only playing! ask as much as you want, it isnt a problem.

[john1181]

bro we arent all ar hall of famers here give the little guys like me a break!! stupid questions or whatever is what you guys are here for!!! stop wining

[marcus300]

bro we arent all ar hall of famers here give the little guys like me a break!! stupid questions or whatever is what you guys are here for!!! stop wining

Read again. Chill Bill, we are only playing! ask as much as you want, it isnt a problem.
Where is that whining? explain

[john1181]

Read again. Chill Bill, we are only playing! ask as much as you want, it isnt a problem.
Where is that whining? explain

lmao that came after i wrote that but before i posted it so i didnt c it

[marcus300]

lmao that came after i wrote that but before i posted it so i didnt c it

I will ask again, where am i whining? even before what i wrote telling you it was ok to ask anything your want i didnt whin one bit so were in the hell was i whining??

I think head and knob are the two words what are needed here,

[john1181]

cranky whining same thing wasnt something important..didnt mean to insult u i i did..lol..i'm glad u guys had a laugh tho to be honest...i got another thread on leg extentions and sex drve/circulation to the penis..lol

[marcus300]

cranky whining same thing wasnt something important..didnt mean to insult u i i did..lol..i'm glad u guys had a laugh tho to be honest...i got another thread on leg extentions and sex drve/circulation to the penis..lol

I acturally thought you was just some kid wanting some advice, but ive read your other thread regarding sex drive and leg extentions and my advice for you is to stop all drugs and seek another hobby,

Is it a wonder guys are giving you a hard time when your asking retarded questions like that!!, if you want to mess around and troll about go to the Lounge, not in here.

[john1181]

I acturally thought you was just some kid wanting some advice, but ive read your other thread regarding sex drive and leg extentions and my advice for you is to stop all drugs and seek another hobby,

Is it a wonder guys are giving you a hard time when your asking retarded questions like that!!, if you want to mess around and troll about go to the Lounge, not in here.

ur right...bro is golf ok??

[DeputyLoneWolf]

ur right...bro is golf ok??

You'll put your eye out kid.

[john1181]

You'll put your eye out kid.

ok deputylonewolf..if you say so theni guess its like that..dont u have anything bettero do then jump inthreads and act like a lttle girl? sound like my little sister!

[john1181]

bro be sure to use no more than 200mg tho for best results add some tren 17.3mg a day!!