Decabol, Testen, Nov, how much to take

[RipitFuel]

So I just made my frist order. It was 5 vials of Decabol 250(Nandrolone Decanoate) so thats 250mg per ml.. i also bought Testen 250(testosterone enanthate) more for a test thing.. And just from doing a lil reading I bought 30tab of 10mg Novalex. anyways

looking for some first time cycle advice on what I have. I know you may say hey add this or that but this is all i got and it's gonna take some time to actually receive it considering where I am at in the world at the current time. So

I was gonna start out with like 250mg for the first wk. If everything goes well I would do 500mg once a week. I am curious on how fast i will be able to tell improvments or see mood changes.. Hopefully my mood doesnt get to crazy and just wanna rip someones head off..

If all is going well I would like to throw that testen in the mix.. i only bought 3 vials which are 2ml each and 250mg/ml

well hope to get some good feedback.. I also have some questions about inject sites, which wil come later on..

[Gaspari1255]

From what I have concluded, you are going to try to run a Deca only cycle and if all goes well add Test? No no no...Deca alone is a bad idea and should not be used at all in a first cycle....Stats?

And you posted this in the wrong section..should be in the Q&A section.

[T-MOS]

Welcome to AR

we will get this thread moved to the Q & A section so you get more replies

[T-MOS]

please give us your complete stats so we can help you better

age
height
weight
bodyfat%
diet
training
GOALS for this cycle
any previous cycles?
PCT knowledge

You are going about that cycle all wrong, so answer the questions asked and we can help you sort it out to get the best and safest results for you

[RipitFuel]

25yrs old
6'2''
200lbs
bodyfat = ?
diet = good
training = GYM GYM GYM
no previous cycles
PCT knowledge is a lil

[Gaspari1255]

25yrs old
6'2''
200lbs
bodyfat = ?
diet = good
training = GYM GYM GYM
no previous cycles
PCT knowledge is a lil

I don't know why but just the way you worded that has me lmao...But yeah, a little more research and PCT knowledge and you'll be good.

[T-MOS]

seeing as how this is your first cycle, would you consider changing things and doing them a little better for you???

if so, read this and tell me what you think

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

[RipitFuel]

how about u suggest what my first cycle should be like? u can start with new gear.. i will contact the supplier and see if they will change my order.. i am reading some links on ur link tho....

[RipitFuel]

or how do u say i should do it? dbol is completely different from the decabol.. anyways.. in which way am i going at it all wrong?

[Gaspari1255]

The general rule of thumb for a first cycle is running Test E or Test C at 500mg a week (split into two injects, Monday/Thursday) for 10 0r 12 weeks.

[T-MOS]

or how do u say i should do it? dbol is completely different from the decabol.. anyways.. in which way am i going at it all wrong?

i gave you a great link

if you read that you will LEARN a lot and this is something you want to let SINK IN AND LEARN and not just take our words for it !!

Deca is extremely suppressive meaning it is gonna shut off your natural test production from the very first shot..... so you want to have some test flowing when using it

best to use ONE compound preferably TEST so that you know how your body reacts to it. If you do more than one compound, how will you know which compound is doing what to your body, both good or bad?

[RipitFuel]

so

PCT for cycles 8-16wks:
Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

ok so thats idea for a 8-16 wk cycle? the question is.. what should my cycle consist of? if i will only have decabol and the lil bit of test.. what do u say? get some other stuff or wha?

[Gaspari1255]

PCT should start 10-14 days after your last injection. Nolvadex/Clomid is fine. Yes, you are going to need to save the Deca and order yourself 20ml or so of Test E or C.

[RipitFuel]

oh ok.. sorry didnt see that post before i submited that one.. umm hey can u PM me or something? and why just Test E? whats bad with the Decabol 250 British Dragon? my biggest concern is drug testing.. i dont wanna get noticeably bigger quick.. just a gradual gain..

[Gaspari1255]

Deca only is going to shut you down and you won't be able to get a hard on. You dont wanna stack them either on your first cycle because you don't know how you are going to react to Test alone. Deca will be a great addition to your 2nd or 3rd cycle, put in on the shelf for now.

[RipitFuel]

how long will it shut me down for? as of right now..i wont be able to get laid for like 6 more months.. so its no biggy to me

[Gaspari1255]

^ come on man, now you're just not using your head...

[T-MOS]

how long will it shut me down for? as of right now..i wont be able to get laid for like 6 more months.. so its no biggy to me

there is a lot more to being shut down then just not geting laid

do you have a clue the function of Testosterone in the male body?

Do you wonder why its the MOST abundant hormone flowing through your body? maybe its there for a reason , and shouldn't be shut off at all

IF your approach to this is gonna be half assed, then I for one and most others will be done wasting our time.

GOOD LUCK

[RipitFuel]

no for real.. i am not going to get laid for 6 months from now.. I know this for a fact.. unless i am lookin at it the wrong way?

[Gaspari1255]

These compounds need to be used with intelligence. Why not just run the standard Test only cycle? You will see good results and be safe in the end.

[RipitFuel]

ok ok.. very good point.. anyways in the test cycle it goes like this..


1-12 test e 500mg/week
1-4 dbol 40mg/day ( this is used to kickstart the cycle and is optional)

so week 1-12 is Test E and Week 1-4 is dbol? when u guys say dbol what are u referring to?

so if i do just Test E.. will the gains be a lot more than Decca? is it safe? remember i am trying to gain some muscle but not 100lbs in a month.. lol gotta keep it somewhat discreet

[Gaspari1255]

ok ok.. very good point.. anyways in the test cycle it goes like this..


1-12 test e 500mg/week
1-4 dbol 40mg/day ( this is used to kickstart the cycle and is optional)

so week 1-12 is Test E and Week 1-4 is dbol? when u guys say dbol what are u referring to?

so if i do just Test E.. will the gains be a lot more than Decca? is it safe? remember i am trying to gain some muscle but not 100lbs in a month.. lol gotta keep it somewhat discreet

You are not going to get freakishly huge within a few weeks..With a solid diet and good training you could put on a good 15-20lbs with Test only. And if you dont even know what the hell dbol is, then stay away from it for now.

[T-MOS]

gains are 99% dependent on DIET, Training, Rest

1% on the gear

[RipitFuel]

sorry if u think i am wasting ur time.. i am trying to get educated and some of these pages just dont educate me the same as actually doing some Q & A type shit.. please bare with me.

[T-MOS]

not a problem...as long as your not being pig headed, i can deal with it

[RipitFuel]

so i should take the Testosterone cypionate or Test E? which one would u reccomend?

[Gaspari1255]

Doesn't matter...I prefer E but it's all personal preference.

[T-MOS]

so i should take the Testosterone cypionate or Test E? which one would u reccomend?

your choice, they are both identical

only difference for you is PCT start time

Test E = 14 days after last injection

Test C = 18 days after last injection

[T-MOS]

ok, if it were my first cycle I would

use Test E for 12 weeks @ 500 mgs/week shot in two doses of 250 mgs every 3.5 days

I would have arimidex on hand to use during the cycle in case of any bloating or signs of gyno

I would use a 23g 1.5 inch syringe and shoot in my glutes

I would have Nolvadex AND clomid for PCT which would start 14 days after my last dose of Test E
and run it for 4-6 weeks

but thats just me......

[RipitFuel]

T-MOS, which one do u perferr?
i emailed the place that i first placed my order with.. hopefully its in time.. i dont think they should have sent it off yet.. if not then i guess i got a lil stock of some deca. anyways..
so Amps havnt to be filtered huh? So i guess i am in need of vials..

[RipitFuel]

ok so for my PCT.. it says
Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

earlier u said i was fine with the Nolva.. so 20mg of Nolva for 30days and i should be st8 on my PCT?

[RipitFuel]

any good posts or explanations on bloating? or when to take the arimidex.. damn that shit is expensive..

[PT]

your going to need alot more test and deca if you want this to work

[RipitFuel]

PT, what do u mean i need more test and deca to make it work.. u mean get bigger? i am not trying to go do shows.. just wanna add a LITTLE bit of muscle.. i have a lot of people watching me at my job and cant just get big out of no where. that would bring on a drug test.

anyways PT.. u didnt have much but a smart ass comment. so what do u recommend?

[CptAmericaX]

Ripit take it with a grain of salt the harsh comments these guys are here to help, just read your little heart out on the boards, and be like a sponge keep learning these guys are good and know what there talking about, and for your comfort im a newb 2 im about to run Test Cyp 500 mg 12 week and I have deca that will be getting dusty as well, so keep in touch with me and we will see how eachothers results go. And im just the same not trying to gain 30 pounds, just some good gains and break this stupid wall im at.

[RipitFuel]

ya i hear ya there Cpt.. you know whats nuts is.. there are so many damn different types of roids out there. i just wish my mail could get to me faster.. i'm almost in like a prison right now so all i have to do is hit the gym up and eat.. so its a perfect time to add some boost to it. maybe once i get back in the states i hope i can continue a lil juicing. hahah SOO

as of right now i have decided to go with the Test E.. gonna buy 3 vials.. that will put me at 7,500mg in 30ml.. does that sound right? that should give me my 12 weeks right?
since getting syringes is difficult for me.. would it be acceptable to shoot up once a week instead of the every 3.5 days?

Cpt, I do have to say these gentlemen do know what the hell they're talkin about. anyways... so those are my questions for the hour.

[T-MOS]

Test E is fine ! Thats what I use, but only because I have not tried cyp.

When did I say anything about filtering Amps? amps are sterile, you do not need to filter them

PT meant that if you wanted to follow your original plan you would need more of each. you are NOT going to do it that way so don't worry. And DO NOT give attitude to very valued and trusted members as this is a sure way to NOT get any help. Keep in mind YOU are the NEWbie coming here with the screwed up NO research cycle asking US to spoon feed you instead of taking time to READ things.

Try to understand that we answer these questions hundreds of times a day so YOU are causing us a lot of unnecessary work and we do this for FREE to help keep steroids safe, so try to be a little appreciative if you want help

The arimidex can be run at .25mgs/EOD you will notice signs of bloating by looking in the mirror, signs of gyno are itchy sensitive nipples, that is when I would start taking it, OR if you are the paranoid type, then you can take it from the start of the cycle

PCT can be run MANY ways THAT is why RESEARCH is key, so you can make an educational decision on which way would be best for YOUR circumstances and condition

your SHOULD be fine with JUST the clomid/nolva, but you will have the arimidex also so you can run it like it states above if you choose

NO , it is NOT ok to inject once a week, if it was that is what I wold have suggested
there are reasons injection timing is there , it is to keep your blood levels more stable which helps reduce your side effects. Less stable= more sides, so you decide if you want to do this right or just do this to do it.

These are my answers for the hour and I hope you appreciate the 30 minutes it took me to type this all out for you for FREE !!!

[methan]

So I just made my frist order. It was 5 vials of Decabol 250(Nandrolone Decanoate) so thats 250mg per ml.. i also bought Testen 250(testosterone enanthate)

next time avoid to buy decabol and others products from this UG lab British DraXXXon because they dont produce anymore since 2006. u have a good chance to get a fake prods.

[RipitFuel]

T MOS, thanks.. u are right.. there is a bunch of info on the site.. just a matter of going through and reading.. if i was able to do some sort of private message i could explain a lil more.. and then u will see what i am talkin about.

EOD being every other day? Fully understand the every 3.5 days now..

yet again.. Thanks for ur time

[T-MOS]

T MOS, thanks.. u are right.. there is a bunch of info on the site.. just a matter of going through and reading.. if i was able to do some sort of private message i could explain a lil more.. and then u will see what i am talkin about.

EOD being every other day? Fully understand the every 3.5 days now..

yet again.. Thanks for ur time

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