dbol question ???

**streamline89** · 06-12-2009, 01:09 AM

Hey guys,

Just got a question simply out of interest :

How low will natural test levels drop from a 6 week cycle of dbol alone ??

How will PCT look?

cheers..

**Noles12** · 06-12-2009, 01:13 AM

They will drop to zero thats why everyone say you need test

**G4R** · 06-12-2009, 01:15 AM

Let me guess, you dont like needles?

**streamline89** · 06-12-2009, 01:20 AM

hahaha i would rather a needle over a pill any day.. just a question of interest.. lol

**Juice Authority** · 06-13-2009, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by Noles12

They will drop to zero thats why everyone say you need test

Huh? Where do you get this? Out of your ass? dbol is less suppressive to HPTA than var. Suppression is a gradual process that takes place over the life of a cycle.

***T-MOS*** · 06-12-2009, 02:42 AM

dbol WILL SHUT YOU DOWN completely !!!

**c-Z** · 06-12-2009, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

dbol WILL SHUT YOU DOWN completely !!!

Completely is key word. So no your natural levels won't drop a bit.... COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN.

**Juice Authority** · 06-13-2009, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

dbol WILL SHUT YOU DOWN completely !!!

No it won't. Depends on how much you're using and for how long. It is not nearly as suppressive as other 17aas.

**Juice Authority** · 06-13-2009, 10:27 PM

dbol actually creates a spike in natty test levels initially and then suppresses it over time.

**streamline89** · 06-12-2009, 07:21 AM

yes sir..

**dougie fresh** · 06-12-2009, 11:04 AM

is it okay to run winstrol tabs with the dbol to offset the test shutdwon or is that not enough??

**Reed** · 06-12-2009, 11:05 AM

How would winstrol off set the test shut down?

You need test

**garbageman18** · 06-12-2009, 11:06 AM

winstrol shuts down test too thats why people coming in wanting to run winstrol only cyclesfor the summer get ****** apart by everyone

**garbageman18** · 06-12-2009, 11:07 AM

if you wanna kickstart run the dbol at the beginning of the test cycle but i personally hate dbol

**dougie fresh** · 06-12-2009, 11:09 AM

ok crap so are there any oral test tabs i was told to take the winny with it and yes hate needles lol

**garbageman18** · 06-12-2009, 11:10 AM

if you hate needles then i prob wouldnt use aas

**Reed** · 06-12-2009, 11:11 AM

You probably could not find them as they are extremely rare. You are getting some bad advice are probably not ready for steroids.

What are your stats btw

age
height
weight
bf
training experience
PCT (what do you plan for PCT

**garbageman18** · 06-12-2009, 11:12 AM

highjacking this post for a sec. reed can u take a look at my post about cramping please lol, thanks man.

**Reed** · 06-12-2009, 11:12 AM

^^ sure

**dougie fresh** · 06-12-2009, 11:51 AM

ree im 39 6' 3 240 lbs muscular build used to play football am trying to get in better shape again looking for kickstart i used to run anadrol 50's with dbol with a propianate or enathate or deca depending on what was good and available i suppose im gonna have to go back to needles to help here. need some advise.

**Reed** · 06-12-2009, 11:55 AM

Well all your cycles should have test has the base.

If you are just getting back conform your diet in order to meet your goals, design a workout routine for success, do that for while and then if I were you I'd stick to a basic test/dbol cycle (dbol as the kickstart for 4-6 weeks), PCT, allow your body to rest, then decide another cycle from there

Diet is crucial to gains and what your body will look like, I can't pound that enough into peoples minds, they just can't seem to grasp that food is actually the most anabolic substance you can put in ones body. Its like peoples minds are set its all drugs and training, nope the work is put in the kitchen

**dougie fresh** · 06-12-2009, 11:58 AM

so what do you think two shots of test a week?

**Reed** · 06-12-2009, 12:00 PM

Just skipped right over the diet part,

Depends on the esters attached:

Test E or C= yes twice a week

Sus250= ed or eod

Prop= ed or eod

**dougie fresh** · 06-12-2009, 12:03 PM

sorry i know about the diet believe me 26 years of football, unfortunately i dont always practice what i know i should just trying to do it safe this time when i was younger we just grabbed whatever. we didnt know any better.and i really appreciate your help here belive me so im going to do this and tell me what you think
dbol 4 tabs at 5mg daily with 2 tabs winny 25mg for 6 weeks
then i will run a test cycle wonly with two shots a week, while watching my diet lol
does this sound right?

**Reed** · 06-12-2009, 12:10 PM

No that is off. Why are you starting with dbol/winny then switching to test?

Start the test with the dbol run it for 4-6 weeks and then toward the end of the cycle add in the winstrol so you can run it up to the day of PCT.

**dougie fresh** · 06-12-2009, 12:11 PM

ok thanxx much appreciated

**Reed** · 06-12-2009, 12:13 PM

Before you go lay out the cycle plan for me.

lets see if you know what you are doing, when you take your last shots, PCT start times etc.

Lay it out

wk 1-12: compound
wk 1-?: compound
wk ?-?: compound

PCT start time is?? depends on the ester so I wanna know what kind of test your runnig
wk 1-4: compound
wk 1-4: compound

**ninesecz** · 06-12-2009, 07:50 PM

I know!! I Know! Can I fill in the blanks??

**Papa Smurf** · 06-12-2009, 07:55 PM

Reed: Nice job stayin with that thread as long as you did bro! I dont think your gonna save that one. Already knows everything!!!!!

**ninesecz** · 06-12-2009, 08:51 PM

some time these young lads just cant be saved! At least there is a good bunch of us who are not so quick to stab and then ask!

**streamline89** · 06-13-2009, 04:54 AM

lol.. still havent got an answer to what PCT would look like after a 6 week cycle of dbol ?

***T-MOS*** · 06-13-2009, 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by streamline89

lol.. still havent got an answer to what PCT would look like after a 6 week cycle of dbol ?

seriously? after all the information given you STILL want to run dbol only???

If you don't care about running a cycle correctly, then don't worry about PCT, who needs it?

**lovbyts** · 06-13-2009, 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

seriously? after all the information given you STILL want to run dbol only???

If you don't care about running a cycle correctly, then don't worry about PCT, who needs it?

DAMN! and I though I was being cold. LOL

**lovbyts** · 06-13-2009, 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by streamline89

lol.. still havent got an answer to what PCT would look like after a 6 week cycle of dbol ?

Final Grade for you above Test. F-

OK go back and re read the WHOLE thread. Then read it again. Then do the above test proposed to you.

You can always read a few of the other post and also find you answer and you might learn something along the way; we hope...

So far you are just NOT getting it...

Ok, simple like this. What you think you want to do, STOP!!!! it's wrong/bad.

**streamline89** · 06-13-2009, 07:50 AM

lol im not doing any AAS and never have. I know its not a good cycle. all i want to kno is the answer to the second half of my question>>> what sort of PCT would you do if some dumb arse did a cycle like this.. read what i wrote at the start! "simply out of interest". jezz why do ppl blow up on these forums? sorry if it was a stupid question.

**ottomaddox** · 06-13-2009, 08:28 AM

It's because people ask the same question over and over and over, when they could of used the search feature and found their answer easily.

Originally Posted by streamline89;46***09

lol im not doing any AAS and never have. I know its not a good cycle. all i want to kno is the answer to the second half of my question>>> what sort of PCT would you do if some dumb arse did a cycle like this.. read what i wrote at the start! "simply out of interest". jezz why do ppl blow up on these forums? sorry if it was a stupid question.

***T-MOS*** · 06-13-2009, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by streamline89;46***09

lol im not doing any AAS and never have. I know its not a good cycle. all i want to kno is the answer to the second half of my question>>> what sort of PCT would you do if some dumb arse did a cycle like this.. read what i wrote at the start! "simply out of interest". jezz why do ppl blow up on these forums? sorry if it was a stupid question.

Because WHY would you care what a PCT would look like for something that you are NOT planning to do. We are NOT stupid. You are gonna do this stupid run of dbol only....

There is NO PCT for this as it is NOT something that ANYONE here would do.

**TITANIUM** · 06-13-2009, 09:25 AM

They,(or we), are trying to HELP you.Everyone is full of alot of test, so when people don't listen to rational explanations,we get agitated.Thanks to all the members that tried to help this guy out.

**streamline89** · 06-13-2009, 07:09 PM

ok guys...I give up on this one. but thanks for the feedback..havent been on these forums long and so far I have learnt a lot..and T-MOS im not as stupid as you think i am. I wouldn't even consider doing AAS for another 5 years..cheers..

**lovbyts** · 06-13-2009, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by streamline89

ok guys...I give up on this one. but thanks for the feedback..havent been on these forums long and so far I have learnt a lot..and T-MOS im not as stupid as you think i am. I wouldn't even consider doing AAS for another 5 years..cheers..

Wana Bet? He will be on another site soon getting some bad advise I'm sure.

Like it was said, it's a BAD cycle so there is not good PCT for it.

Stick around and read for a while. I probably still read 100+ post to my every one and at least a dozen or two post to each reply.

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