winstrol/stromba - newbie

[uzzobb]

I want to take oral winstrol for a short course (5-6 weeks) just to enhance my body's phisique. I never took steroids and im not planning of taking any after that.

My question is what are the side effects? Can it stun growth(like some other steroids), since im not that old and may still have some development going on?
(assume i use it properly (i have good guidance)).

[TractionIssues]

You are not ready for Winstrol. Please don't make a big ego problem over this, just trust us, Winstrol is useless overall unless you are about to do a competition and you are already cut like a mofo! Not to mention a winny only cycle is very stupid.

[marcus300]

You are not ready for Winstrol. Please don't make a big ego problem over this, just trust us, Winstrol is useless overall unless you are about to do a competition and you are already cut like a mofo! Not to mention a winny only cycle is very stupid.

That is not correct at all, jeez !!!

We need to know alot more about yourself before we can give advice, stats ect!!

check this out
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=367187

[TractionIssues]

Marcus you just like following me around and trying to prove me wrong don't you? Pleas enlighten me why you think this kid should do a Winny only cycle I would love to know...

[marcus300]

Marcus you just like following me around and trying to prove me wrong don't you? Pleas enlighten me why you think this kid should do a Winny only cycle I would love to know...

Ive no idea what your talking about, ive not seen you before, if you feel thats happening maybe you should take a look at yourself and your advice before making such stupid comments.

I think you need to go back and re-read what i said, where did i say anything about him doing a winny cycle? please enlighten me?

I said and I quote "That is not correct at all" and I quoted your post and highlighted it, which was "Winstrol is useless overall unless you are about to do a competition and you are already cut like a mofo"

I stick with what i said because in my opinion what you said is not correct, if you said something what i thought was correct i wouldnt say anything, would I. If you truely believe what you said fine, i just wanted to say I DONT.

Have you escaped from hospital or something?

[TractionIssues]

Ive no idea what your talking about, ive not seen you before, if you feel thats happening maybe you should take a look at yourself and your advice before making such stupid comments.

I think you need to go back and re-read what i said, where did i say anything about him doing a winny cycle? please enlighten me?

I said and I quote "That is not correct at all" and I quoted your post and highlighted it, which was "Winstrol is useless overall unless you are about to do a competition and you are already cut like a mofo"

I stick with what i said because in my opinion what you said is not correct, if you said something what i thought was correct i wouldnt say anything, would I. If you truely believe what you said fine, i just wanted to say I DONT.

Have you escaped from hospital or something?

It was a joke, don't take things so serious... Just saying so because on another post you misunderstood what I wrote possbily because the way it was worded, but said the exact same thing I did... Anyway, back to the topic, why do you believe someone who is not in competition should use winstrol?

[marcus300]

It was a joke, don't take things so serious... Just saying so because on another post you misunderstood what I wrote possbily because the way it was worded, but said the exact same thing I did... Anyway, back to the topic, why do you believe someone who is not in competition should use winstrol?

You said its useless unless your about to do a comp, do you really think that?

[stelq61th]

to add muscle while burn fat

[TractionIssues]

to add muscle while burn fat

Winstrol will give MINIMAL muscle gain and fat loss, it's not meant for that.

[TractionIssues]

I asked you first lol... Okay, I'll reword this also so you understand my point. In my opinion, if you are not about to compete in a competition, Winstrol is not necessary, esspecially if you weigh the pros and cons of the compound. There are much better compounds for the everyday bodybuilder, like Masteron, which will also help Fat Loss more than Winstrol and still give that "Dry look".

[marcus300]

I asked you first lol... Okay, I'll reword this also so you understand my point. In my opinion, if you are not about to compete in a competition, Winstrol is not necessary, esspecially if you weigh the pros and cons of the compound. There are much better compounds for the everyday bodybuilder, like Masteron, which will also help Fat Loss more than Winstrol and still give that "Dry look".

Oh my god its getting worse lol

I think you need to get more experience in ther world of AAS before giving advice, winny is a good AAS and is not just for competition,

[TractionIssues]

Oh my god its getting worse lol

I think you need to get more experience in ther world of AAS before giving advice, winny is a good AAS and is not just for competition,

Please... don't give me this hot head attitude, I gave my opinion that Masteron is better if you look at the pros and cons of it, I did not say winny was bad either, I just said that it makes more sense to use it if you are preparing for a competition. Winny's effects are mainly aesthetic, and don't give much long term results, that being said, what is the use of it for the everyday bodybuilder? I gave my opinion, you have no said anything to why you think the opposite except for rude comments. We are all adults here please keep these discussions mature and informative, I would love to learn your views on why you feel so highly about winny.

[marcus300]

Please... don't give me this hot head attitude, I gave my opinion that Masteron is better if you look at the pros and cons of it, I did not say winny was bad either, I just said that it makes more sense to use it if you are preparing for a competition. Winny's effects are mainly aesthetic, and don't give much long term results, that being said, what is the use of it for the everyday bodybuilder? I gave my opinion, you have no said anything to why you think the opposite except for rude comments. We are all adults here please keep these discussions mature and informative, I would love to learn your views on why you feel so highly about winny.

All because you made to look rather stupid dont have a go with the attitude ok, you making this even worse now, winny doesnt give long term results and is mainly aesthetic!! lol lol i can see i am wasting my time and effect so you think what ever you want about winny being useless unless in comp, i have other ideas.

And your now your changing what you said, you didnt say winny makes more sense to use if you are prepping, you said "Winstrol is useless overall unless you are about to do a competition and you are already cut like a mofo"

Now keep this thread on topic and think next time and make sure you know what your talking about next time you post something, lol jeez

Back on topic!

[TractionIssues]

All because you made to look rather stupid dont have a go with the attitude ok, you making this even worse now, winny doesnt give long term results and is mainly aesthetic!! lol lol i can see i am wasting my time and effect so you think what ever you want about winny being useless unless in comp, i have other ideas.

And your now your changing what you said, you didnt say winny makes more sense to use if you are prepping, you said "Winstrol is useless overall unless you are about to do a competition and you are already cut like a mofo"

Now keep this thread on topic and think next time and make sure you know what your talking about next time you post something, lol jeez

Back on topic!

Again, thanks for actually posting your reasons why you think differently instead of your immature oh your just not as smart as me, bullshit. Oh but hey your right, winstrol will definitely give you HUGE LONG TERM GAINS!! EVERYONE SHOULD GET ON IT AND GO PRO!!!

[Mooseman33]

traction, let it go man....

u made a broad statement, Marcus disagreed...
u wanted to know why, he didnt want to tell/educate you....i will say marcus does not parrot bro, when he speaks, most listen, i know i do...

let it go and give this guy his thread back....

[c-Z]

Please. Take bullshit to PM's....... Winstrol alone is very poor.

[marcus300]

Please. Take bullshit to PM's....... Winstrol alone is very poor.

I agree, there are far better options

[T-MOS]

To the OP,

Please list your complete stats please so we can try to help you , winny by itself is NOT the way to go

age
height
weight
bodyfat %
Diet
yrs training
any previous cycles
PCT planned for this cycle
Goals for this

this will help us help you.

[TractionIssues]

This will be my last post on the subject.

If marcus is to believe something about winny, that is purely his opinion, except I don't even know what he thinks because he didn't even tell me any. Now I am appauled as how someone would go and flame someone else just because their opinion was different and then try to mock my intelligence over it. Becuase I believe winstrol is not worth it if you are not getting ready for a competition is purely my opinion, and you can agree or disagree thats fine. But I state my opinion and this is what I end up with:

That is not correct at all, jeez !!!

We need to know alot more about yourself before we can give advice, stats ect!!

you should take a look at yourself and your advice before making such stupid comments.

I stick with what i said because in my opinion what you said is not correct, if you said something what i thought was correct i wouldnt say anything, would I. If you truely believe what you said fine, i just wanted to say I DONT.

Have you escaped from hospital or something?

I think you need to get more experience in ther world of AAS before giving advice, winny is a good AAS and is not just for competition,

All because you made to look rather stupid

Now keep this thread on topic and think next time and make sure you know what your talking about next time you post something, lol jeez

Why should i educate you when you wont even do it for yourself?

nope i didnt, doesnt matter if you put it in caps either it still looks stupid lol


You have talk total bull all the way through this thread, now stop posting bull

Now tell me at what point a mature and educated bodybuilder would answer like this with such attitude and rudeness? I never said anything to insult marcus, why insult me? I do not try to start any problems on the board and just like intersharing knowledge between eachother, and marcus I don't want you to go and give me this whole attitude bullshit, can you please just state your opinion and then forget about this?

[T-MOS]

Traction, if Marcus says something about winny or ANY other steroid related subject. i can guarantee to you that it is MUCH more than just opinion. He has more personal experience in this field then most people on this board put together....

Now quit with the BS here and get back to the OP's questions !!!!

[TractionIssues]

Sorry T-MOS I'm really just trying to have a mature discussion, but it doesn't seem to be possible with him. As for the OP, he has not responded to the htread since he started it.

[marcus300]

Ive never said winny is wonderful or i am trying push winny for that matter, if you go back and read, i disagreed with what you said, which was its useless unless in a competition, i dont think it is, now lets get this thread back on track and if you do go back and re-read you will see it was you who started the attitude because i disagreed with you, chill out and move on

[TractionIssues]

Ive never said winny is wonderful or i am trying push winny for that matter, if you go back and read, i disagreed with what you said, which was its useless unless in a competition, i dont think it is, now lets get this thread back on track and if you do go back and re-read you will see it was you who started the attitude because i disagreed with you, chill out and move on

How am I supossed to even know what you think if you STILL HAVN'T ANSWERED MY QUESTION. WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ON WHY YOU THINK WINNY WOULD BE A GOOD ALTERNATIVE FOR HIM. I didn not insult you once and every single one of your comments was insulting towards me, and you say that I'M THE ONE that gave you attitude? Cmon now are you delusional?

[marcus300]

How am I supossed to even know what you think if you STILL HAVN'T ANSWERED MY QUESTION. WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ON WHY YOU THINK WINNY WOULD BE A GOOD ALTERNATIVE FOR HIM. I didn not insult you once and every single one of your comments was insulting towards me, and you say that I'M THE ONE that gave you attitude? Cmon now are you delusional?

What are you on about, ive have never said within this thread that winny could be a good AAS for him, i dont know nothing about him and winny alone isnt the best way forward.

I WILL TRY AND TELL YOU AGAIN IN CAPS (SO IT MAY SINK IN)

YOU SAID "Winstrol is useless overall unless you are about to do a competition and you are already cut like a mofo" I SAID THATS NOT CORRECT.

Ive never said anything about the thread starter and what he should do because we need to know more about him.

Is this sinking in now?