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    support with spawn

    going to run spawn the first week of Sept @3 pills for 30 days, pct is nolva@40/40/20/20. Was planning on using life support by annab. innov.

    Is this enough support or do I just need milk thistle? And if just m.t., how much??

    Also, I am currently taking omga 3 6 9, multi, glucosamine

    Any other supplements missing for this cycle?

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    Its a Tren based PH, with Epistane in it basically (19-Norandrosta-4,9 diene-3,17 dione and 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyletioallocholanol).

    I didnt get on with Epi, it gave me bad acne so stopped early. Gains were good though, up around 3-4lbs, far more vascular too.

    As for Tren PH's, I havent read much good on them. There conversion to actual Tren is very poor and oral Tren (Methyl-Trienelone, the illigal androgen) is VERY toxic. The only Tren based PH I'd use would be PP's 1-T Tren as its applied to the skin, but even then the actual conversion to Tren (Trenbolone) would be small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsinc View Post
    going to run spawn the first week of Sept @3 pills for 30 days, pct is nolva@40/40/20/20. Was planning on using life support by annab. innov.

    Is this enough support or do I just need milk thistle? And if just m.t., how much??

    Also, I am currently taking omga 3 6 9, multi, glucosamine

    Any other supplements missing for this cycle?
    1-2g/ED MT is fine.

    Life Support or Cycle support is a good addition.

    Regular supps too. BCAA's, Leucine, Creatine Mono, Casein, Multi-Vit, Vit-C.

    You will get an estrogenic rebound to taper off the compound IMHO over 2-3 weeks. Tamox is fine for PCT, though I'd add Clomid at 25mg/ED too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    1-2g/ED MT is fine.

    Life Support or Cycle support is a good addition.

    Regular supps too. BCAA's, Leucine, Creatine Mono, Casein, Multi-Vit, Vit-C.

    You will get an estrogenic rebound to taper off the compound IMHO over 2-3 weeks. Tamox is fine for PCT, though I'd add Clomid at 25mg/ED too.
    bcaa's will come in with pwo shake, creatine during pct so I see what spawn does by itself, as far as the others multi, c; in the am and casein before bed.

    do you honestly think I need to run tamox and clomid together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsinc View Post
    bcaa's will come in with pwo shake, creatine during pct so I see what spawn does by itself, as far as the others multi, c; in the am and casein before bed.

    do you honestly think I need to run tamox and clomid together?
    See how you get on.

    If you get any testicular atrophy, I'd say you need both. Or if your sex drive crashes that is.

    VitC in the AM and PWO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    See how you get on.

    If you get any testicular atrophy, I'd say you need both. Or if your sex drive crashes that is.

    VitC in the AM and PWO.
    believe it or not, I had shut down from h-drol. pct was the same; nolva 40/40/20/20. Took a few months to get back to normal. Maybe pct was poor quality.

    I might as well order them both, ya know. Wont hurt, right?

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    It may be an insurance policy to have some caber or bromo on hand, in case any prolactin issues arise from the use of the 19-nor. Just my $.02.

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    milk thistle and dandelion, and saw palmetto and nettle root... enjoy the spawn, fyi i bumped it up to 5 tabs a day and saw no results dif... three tabs a day is the right dose (im 245-248 lbs now) spawn and a good diet put on 20 lbs of muscle...

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    n u t r a p l a n e t. c o m still has it. prob not for long tho

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