Can i use just tren by it self

[boygeorge2007]

Can u use tren by it self or do you need to run it with sumink

[D7M]

No, please don't use tren by itself.

what are your stats and goals?

[boygeorge2007]

I just want to ripp up !!!!
Im 18 stone 15 percent body fat

[stpete]

Well that will mostly be determined by your diet.
Age
Cycle Experience
Training Experience

[boygeorge2007]

24
none
5 years on and off

[stpete]

Welcome to the board.
Tren's probably the most powerful steroid available and not recommended for the beginner. And using it by itself is a big no-no.
A test cycle is a good place to start....

[boygeorge2007]

What do you recomeand

[boygeorge2007]

So wot do you recommend

[marcus300]

Read this, it will help you

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

[boygeorge2007]

thanks for the link!
what do you useually run with tren

[marcus300]

thanks for the link!
what do you useually run with tren

You dont want to be using tren when you are new to this game, infact your a few cycles off to be honest, its one of the most powerful AAS going and caution is needed, sides can be very harsh.

[boygeorge2007]

i dont want to use d bol
i want sum big gains ! i here about tren is good

[marcus300]

i dont want to use d bol
i want sum big gains ! i here about tren is good

You dont want to be using tren or dbol, just stick with test only!

Tren is very powerful and shouldnt be used by someone who hasnt used gear, it just only be consider when you have done a few cycles, sides are really harsh. why are you not listening:?

[boygeorge2007]

sorry ! so what is the best cycle for test !!!!!

[D7M]

sorry ! so what is the best cycle for test !!!!!

did you even read the link Marcus gave you above?

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

[marcus300]

did you even read the link Marcus gave you above?

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

guess not!

[marcus300]

Test only either test e or cyp, 500mgs per wk for 12 wks, solid pct and make sure the diet is in order, check out the pct forum,diet section and have an AI to hand just incase, read all the stickies at the top of each page in each section.

[boygeorge2007]

yeah i did but, it said if you want to bulk, test and dbol! if you want to cut test and tren!
and your telling me to stay away from them

[marcus300]

yeah i did but, it said if you want to bulk, test and dbol! if you want to cut test and tren!
and your telling me to stay away from them

It says nothing about tren and test in that link,

Just stick with test only no matter what your goals are, its down to the diet weather you want to cut or bulk.

FORGET TREN.

[boygeorge2007]

All of these great benefits are to be had with the use of test enth alone, but realistically, it will be part of a cycle containing one or more other drugs. People who are bulking will probably choose Deca or Eq (possibly with Dbol as well) and those who are cutting will probably steer towards Eq and perhaps Trenbolone. Very often users will shoot this drug once or twice a week, but blood levels are still above baseline with this drug at around day eight (16).Common wisdom holds that the testosterone portion of any such cycle should be equal to or greater than any other injectable drug(s) portion (on a mg basis)…I believe that you can get away with less, but in general, this is a good guideline.

[marcus300]

I dont know why you cant take this in, i will try one more time.

Dont take tren, its for guys who are advanced, the sides can be very nasty, tren is for advance bodybuilders.

First cycle stick with test only - no matter what your goals are, bulking or cutting is done via diet.

TEST ONLY - see how you react to one compound -

[boygeorge2007]

just test !!!!!!!!!!!!
any pct

[marcus300]

yes of course pct - read the link for pct in that thread.

[lovbyts]

LOL, you guys dont think this is legit do you? I think this guy/troll is polling your leg just wasting your time.

[boygeorge2007]

PCT for cycles 8-16wks:
Day 1-30 .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

take this at the end of my course or during

[marcus300]

PCT for cycles 8-16wks:
Day 1-30 .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

take this at the end of my course or during

Start your pct 14days after your last shot of test e
nolva
40/20/20/20
clomid
100/50/50/50

You need to read all the stickies in each section and do alot more research, if you know nothing fine but dont start cycling before you fully understand what your doing.

read all the stickies in each section, all your questions will be answered, best of luck

[boygeorge2007]

no im not wasting any ones time !!!!!!!!! thanks

[lovbyts]

You really are serious about the Tren and not listening to these guys? Wow, My bad but you are even worse.....

Dude, Tren is NOT for beginners, I would not touch Tren until you are already in GREAT shape, ready to compete and have ran at least 6 cycles and have at lease 3+ years of HEAVY training under your belt.

I got back into training 2 years ago. Im in pretty good shape now, some would say in great shape. I know I'm still at least 2 years away from trying Tren because Im looking at it realistically and dont want to kill myself.

Im 46, if I can wait I think you can wait at least a few more years..

read the links given to you and start from the beginning like every should. When you are ready, your body fat is below 15%, you are already in really good shape, you have at least 1 year of training 5x a week and your diet is spot on do your first cycle of Test ONLY...

If you do it before then you will do more harm than good especially for the long run.

[boygeorge2007]

thanks for the info

[tronics]

just incase when marcus writes nolva 40/20/20/20 and clomid 100/50/50/50

thats to show how much per day for each week...so 4 week pct starting 14 days after the last shot first week 40mg a day of nolva and 100mg a day of clomid for the first week...weeks 2 through 4 take 20mg nolva/day and 50mg clomid/day..

i see some people read it and think thats per day not week...so just to be on the safe side...be safe.

[stpete]

You are correct.